LEGAL COURSE of ACTION Discussion --- bASIC / BitcoinASIC

[peasant]

I really do not want to sound ungrateful for what Tom has tried to do but I cannot say I am whole just yet.

For some reason while the exchange rates were around $47.85ish while he was paying everyone back my transaction received has an apparent exchange rate of $49.31.

This means that for a USD cost of $2169.98 for 2 units he paid back only 44BTC instead of approximately 45.34BTC.
I do not know if this was because of clerical error or what but I believe I am still owed at least 1.25BTC.

I cannot wait until payments start again in a week as that minuscule amount could be wiped out in exchange gains for his benefit.


I put it to everyone here, should I still hound Tom for the remainder or just lick my wounds and be done with it?

If you want maybe send him an email to see what can be done. Other than that be happy with what you got, and move on. If there is any truth to toms claims consider your self lucky.

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[dmcurser]

i have sent tom two emails and no response yet

[dmcurser]

3 emails now and still no reply

[dani]

He replied to me, one day later than he said, but he got to it anyway. 

[ralree]

Failed businesses don't make a person a scammer, I'm sorry.  Your logic is flawed.  That's probably why I have you ignored, miter_myles, and can only read your text in quotes.

PS: Please don't quote miter_myles.

[miter_myles]

Failed businesses don't make a person a scammer, I'm sorry.  Your logic is flawed.  That's probably why I have you ignored, miter_myles, and can only read your text in quotes.

PS: Please don't quote miter_myles.

Oh noes!  My E-feelings are hurt!! 

Dumbass.. failed businesses are one thing, but lies, deceit and incompetence are another, which tommy mcscam achieved on high levels.

[dmcurser]

Contact me:
btcfpga@gmail.com

this is the only email address I am using to handle refunds and I have been answering emails every day. I have Zero unanswered emails at this current time at that address.


I will be available everyday at btcfpga@gmail.com

Everyone will be paid back.

this is a lie i have emailed you 3 times and still not received a response. i hope that me asking when my orders will be refunded isnt to mean or rude that you arnt going to answer me

[Flying Hellfish]

Failed businesses don't make a person a scammer, I'm sorry.  Your logic is flawed.  That's probably why I have you ignored, miter_myles, and can only read your text in quotes.

PS: Please don't quote miter_myles.

So this is just SOP for a failing business?

UNDER NEW MANAGEMENT - "Tom" or "Dave" is no longer affiliated with this company in anyway. We are a specialized devision of a huge corporate electronics manufacturer in Canada and we want you to get to know us before we take even 1 order. Ordering has been suspended for now and we are sorting out the banking and tax issues with Tom. Hopefully he does the right thing and for his credit he has givin us zero indication that he does not have full intention of doing the right thing. Luckily for everyone Tom seems to be doing the best he can to refund every single customer in a timely fashion. Now I know we lost most of our customers and that is fine. We plan to show full video proof before we take 1 single order and unlike some competitors these shipments willl be coming from the USA and will include USPS tracking numbers (DHL for international customer) Now for the hard truth We have strong reason to believe that BFL has been stringing you along all this time beause it needed your money to cover their R&D / NRE costs, its quite likely they are even using Pre-sale orders to pay their employees saleries which i am not sure of US law but is illegal in Canada. BEWARE OF BFL. ITS ALL LIES. Their terms of service contract is basically setup so they can legally take your money and there is nothing you can do about it. Yes Finally! Avalon comes out with the first ASIC device but how many will we actually see in customers hands by months end. How about the end of Febuary, March? These numbers will be very low. The sheer unprofessionalism of the supossid leaders in this industry is down right appaling talking about Bitcoin in general it's mind boggling - how these companies like BFL and bASIC can just string their customers along for months and no one comes out with anything better. My company has been developing custom ASIC and FPGA based solutions for decades we work in the military and telecommunications sectors and can accomplish this task at ease. We currently have a full functioning and hashing prototype which we plan to bring to production next week. We understand time critical solutions and it is our specialty. Instead of a full Standard CELL ASIC whch takes AGES to complete low success rates and extremey high NRE we are using FPGA hard copies of what is probably the best FPGA Bitcoin mining core in history (no it is not open source sorry ). Our ASIC chips can mine at over 2 gh/s comfortably and at a very low clock, which will ensure excellent heat disapation as well as chip longetivity. The inexpensive nature of the manufacturer of these chips will allow us to build machines that will use a large number of cheap chips and still keep electrical rates down to a reasonable level. These will be fully enclosed devices, not as cleaver as as our friends at Avalon with their stand alone wifi devices but they will include 25 FPGA hard copy ASICS which will use a maximum of 200watts per device. They will however require a host computer. The best part of our device is the speed at which we can develop them. We have a fully functional PCB fab and electronics assembly as well as a fully functional SHIPPING DEPARTMENT in house and we have already begun this process. I know it's a bit late in the game to introduce a product such as this but we wanted our news to get out there in the main stream. Tom is out. We are in. the bASIC is officially DEAD. Get ready for a 50Gh/s ASIC Based device shipping from the US with tracking and no none sense. There will be no deadline back outs and no B.S. We purchased this company from Tom for many reasons but the main reason is his un revealed completed design that can easily be converted to support 25 hard copy ASICS. The hardest work for us is already completed , Believe it or not, this IS happening and like I said before you will see a youtube video of this device hashing along before we ever ask for one red cent from the community. We cannot give an exact date at this time but It would not surprise me in the slightest that our first device ships before BFL. Professionals have taken this over and professionalism which is long over due in this industry will make all the difference. Please watch our you tube channel (coming soon) for a video of the device hashing by next week at the latest. Once the video has been shot we have decided to ship the device to conman who in my opinion develops the best Bitcoin mining software available. Please check back for more updates.


If he hadn't crossed the line yet (that's a huge if IMO) he smashed the line by a country fucking mile with this one.

Why do so many people choose to ignore the Can-Electric situation when proclaiming this just a normal failed business attempt?

[MichaelBliss]

Failed businesses don't make a person a scammer, I'm sorry.  Your logic is flawed.  That's probably why I have you ignored, miter_myles, and can only read your text in quotes.

PS: Please don't quote miter_myles.

Oh noes!  My E-feelings are hurt!! 

Dumbass.. failed businesses are one thing, but lies, deceit and incompetence are another, which tommy mcscam achieved on high levels.

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[cablepair]

well its friday again...

I just sent out several refunds,

I have to go do something- but will be back later to resume refunds.



BTW: miter_myles is not and has never been a customer of BTCFPGA/BitcoinASIC

I don't owe him a penny.

he is just a mean nasty person who enjoys seeing others suffer.

[miter_myles]

BTW: miter_myles is not and has never been a customer of BTCFPGA/BitcoinASIC

I don't owe him a penny.

he is just a mean nasty person who enjoys seeing others suffer.

Awww... Tommy "CAN-ELEC" McScam... I really do like how you try so hard to deflect things... you almost look like a victim when you say stupid shit like that.. lol

Actually, and rather unfortunately, I was indeed a sucker customer at one time (multiple orders even, omg!)... thankfully I did not pay via BTC.. still had to ride out my chargebacks and lost time and money following your little donkey show bASIC..

Good luck on your ebay sales!

[Mobius]

Time to take action:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=143496.msg1616612#msg1616612