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October 14, 2016, 02:17:47 PM
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Here is the deposit address I was given:

1C7kENAgEXRZABPiJavwm5UJTsTQqayuKZ


Thanks. I'm on my smartphone right now so I've only managed to have a quick scan through so far, but it doesn't look good. Put it this way, I don't see it being sent to any multisig addresses. First impressions look like funds ended up at an exchange address.

If anybody else can chip in with the deposit address they were given it would help to better visualise the money trail.

Once I'm back on my desktop I'll give it a more thorough analysis.



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October 15, 2016, 09:55:06 AM
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Here is the deposit address I was given:

1C7kENAgEXRZABPiJavwm5UJTsTQqayuKZ


I'd really like some more deposit addresses from other people if possible, but I can tell you that within a few transfers that transaction was combined with some others and sent here:

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October 15, 2016, 10:04:25 AM
Last edit: October 18, 2016, 08:27:47 AM by cryptodevil
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Remember this from way back on page 1 of this thread?

Registered office for a company claiming to have "over 260 staff and offices in London, Manchester, Belfast and Vancouver.":


A small semi-detached house in a residential estate?


Sure, seems legit!


Let's zoom out on that address:

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Doesn't look particularly remarkable, right?

Until you overlay it with some more information for that area:

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Palace Barracks. Razormind is registered to an address INSIDE Palace Barracks, a secure, entirely fenced-off, guarded and highly-restricted area.
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Why is it so secure, entirely fenced off, guarded and highly restricted?

I'll just leave this here:

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October 15, 2016, 11:11:33 AM
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Jawad is escaping with 600BTC sent to Polo just now!!    Shocked Shocked Shocked



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October 15, 2016, 11:27:57 AM
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Jawad is escaping with 600BTC sent to Polo just now!!    Shocked Shocked Shocked

https://blockchain.info/address/12cgpFdJViXbwHbhrA3TuW1EGnL25Zqc3P



No you're misinterpreting the address. That address is listed as a Poloniex wallet, not a Poloniex customer's wallet. The transactions are those being done by Poloniex themselves, it is where some of the DEOS 'crowdsale'/ICO funds were sent, meaning that Jawad cashed them out or traded them for other coins to obfuscate the funds.


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October 15, 2016, 12:31:39 PM
Last edit: October 15, 2016, 02:40:46 PM by cryptodevil
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Just a little update on this:

Turns out I was wrong. It would seem Dr Ferguson knows all about Razormind. Which is beyond disturbing seeing as he is an actual practising Doctor of Medicine and NOT an IT guy or a 'brand' specialist. This now raises the question of whether he is knowingly colluding with Jawad.

Let me show you how I go from "Dr Ferguson is just an innocent Muslim being used by another Muslim" to "Dr Ferguson's apparent knowledge of Razormind suggests he is in on the fraud".

I messaged Dr Ferguson on twitter to see if he might express surprise and concern at being used to promote a scam:

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This is the response I got:

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Which doesn't really look good for James Ferguson if he chose to simply block me rather than question what I was referring to. Kinda suggests that he knows what I am talking about, doesn't it?

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Just as an asides, for anyone who wants a better idea of what Dr James Ferguson aka Sulayman Ferguson is about, he wrote an interesting sympathy piece about John Philip Walker Lindh, also nicknamed "The American Taliban". He admires the guy so much he attributes his choice of Islamic name to him:

http://everything2.com/user/mr100percent/writeups/John+Walker+Lindh
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So, again I ask the question, why would a practising medical professional in New York permit his profile to be used to falsely represent him as a tech and 'brand' professional as part of a fraudulent 'crowdsale' process which collected millions of dollars in bitcoin?



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https://www.google.co.jp/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiG1s-QiN3PAhXDOJQKHQiKBaEQFgggMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FKhilafahOnline%2Fposts%2F10151874779841204&usg=AFQjCNEkqmjDMZarFEvgmuy_M_ae26iZsA

Islam relation?

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October 15, 2016, 09:07:04 PM
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This is the address I was given by razormind.

Never receieved a token.

When I asked @razormind about this issue, they simply blocked me in Twitter.

Can I consider myself scammed¡?
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October 16, 2016, 01:02:37 AM
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It appears that 2 companies are registered at this address:

http://www.ukaddressbook.uk/a/55-clive-road-holywood-county-down-united-kingdom-bt18-9re
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/NI636535/

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October 16, 2016, 08:50:41 AM
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No, that's the postcode BT34 3HQ, somewhere completely different in Northern Ireland.


What we DO know, however, is that Jawad and his wife sister clearly lived at that address in MI5's Palace Barracks. His wife sister was on the board of a women's charity for a short period of time and gave 55 Clive Road as her correspondence address:

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Now, we have two states of logic here, either:

1. Razormind/DeOS is an MI5 operation
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2. Razormind/DeOS is not an MI5 operation

Let's take each one in turn and break it down:

1. Razormind/DeOS is an MI5 operation - Well I guess it isn't beyond the realms of possibility that the intelligence services would seek to create an intelligence-gathering platform which they hope would be used by people falsely believing it to be a truly decentralised and secure environment, pretty much as Jawad has consistently attempted to claim it to be. Although I don't see how turning everybody's device into the equivalent of a netbook using cloud-based apps on somebody else's servers could ever hope to pretend to be the privacy-centric user-controlled p2p utopia it was marketed as.

Besides, while 'Military Intelligence' is the de-facto dictionary example given for the definition of the word 'oxymoron', I seriously doubt MI5 would be so stupid as to register an operational sham company to their own fucking Barracks!

Which leaves us with:

2. Razormind/DeOS is not an MI5 operation - Which really makes things *so* much more amusing. You see, whatever reason Jawad had for living there, his decision to register Razormind to that address and then to ultimately go on to perpetrate a multi-million dollar 'crowdsale'/ICO scam centred on fraudulently misrepresenting the scale and scope of the company and the people connected with it, makes this situation beyond farcical, for both Jawad and MI5.

But if we add in the concerns regarding the possible ideological motivation of some of the participants of this fraud, such as Doctor James 'Sulayman' Ferguson, things stop being quite so funny.

In any event I note that Razormind's website has recently been updated from this:

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To now include this:

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Ismael Malik has already alleged that Jawad is pivoting his plans to expedite the installation of bitcoin ATMs so he can cash-out the proceeds from this fraud. The question remains, however, is this just a personal cash-grab by Jawad and Phil, or is there a more insidious intent behind the establishment of a network of bitcoin ATMs and a supposed $5,000,000 'Blockchain Bank' for 'the poorest' in Belfast and Paris for which he neither could properly explain the source of the necessary funding, having denied it was coming from the DEOS 'crowdsale' money, nor explain how such a 'bank', which is slated to offer zero-interest loans, intended to handle the issue of non-performing (not repaid) zero-interest loans.

At this stage a simple cash-grab through conducting the all-too-common 'crowdsale'/ICO 'bullshit crypto project' fraud is significantly less worrying than the broader picture of what seems to be an attempt to establish a Razormind-controlled ideology-driven financial network.


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October 16, 2016, 10:26:07 AM
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Seeing as the @razormind twitter twattery is now tweeting:
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Next #deos distribution will be on Monday -- we're adding the surge of latecomers.

Let's just remind ourselves of the sort of the, extremely Garza-esque, post-ico market-price bullshit they were trying to con people with during the final week of their ICO, sorry 'crowdsale'.

https://www.reddit.com/r/icocrypto/comments/50sh1h/razormind_deos/
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Do you see that? "afterwards DEOS will be set at 1:1 BTC."

He is explicitly stating that people can buy DEOS tokens at 1000, 500 and then 250 DEOS per bitcoin during the 'crowdsale' but that afterwards they will be priced at 1 DEOS per bitcoin.

That is a direct assertion to convince people they can expect to make hundreds of times their investment back if they buy during the ICO/crowdsale.

So many laws broken, Jawad, so very many laws broken.





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October 16, 2016, 10:29:50 AM
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No, he will then just send them 9,2M (I think that many DeOS tokens were sold?) and just say:
- There you go, these are 9.2M BTC, go buy some boats.

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October 17, 2016, 03:49:08 PM
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1. Razormind/DeOS is an MI5 operation
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2. Razormind/DeOS is not an MI5 operation


2.1: Razormind is a terrorist organization attempting to raise money and using this fake address as a "fuck you" to MI5.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/palace-barracks-explosion-at-mi5-headquarters-and-army-base-in-northern-ireland-caused-by-device-hidden-in-postal-van-31451937.html

Maybe somebody should contact the base and let them know what is going on.
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October 17, 2016, 04:24:03 PM
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Couple of more things I have found:

2 year old Jawad Yaqub DeOS interview:
http://nxbuc.xyz/stream/mExxf9sPU0E

Jawads Online CV/Resume
https://issuu.com/jawadyaqub/docs/jycv
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I am so sick of the animated 'testimonials' https://vimeo.com/94147033



I really feel sorry for the ladies and gentlemen on that page that they're appointed as CEOs/CTOs of some non-existing companies for no reason.


Mary Federer - CEO of Allianz. CEO of what Allianz? Allianz.tk? Allianz plumbing? Allianz & Son cloud mining?

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October 18, 2016, 03:45:16 AM
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LOL,  Razormind troopers here and there  Grin

BTW, I got an worthless-coin email to a trash mail box.

http://us10.campaign-archive1.com/?u=f4255b146e6732a2b89d1ee15&id=64f0da1441&e=4fa823eff0

they want to act something further although we identified them as SCAM.  Cool

Needless to say, they state their mailing address to the MI5 address what cryptodevil mentioned.  Grin

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I am so sick of the animated 'testimonials' https://vimeo.com/94147033
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I really feel sorry for the ladies and gentlemen on that page that they're appointed as CEOs/CTOs of some non-existing companies for no reason.

Yeah I don't imagine these 'Fiverr' video people agreed to their images being used to falsely claim them to be on the board of fake blue-chip companies for the purposes of misrepresenting a sham organisation.


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This is the address I was given by razormind.

If that is the case then your deposit was sent here: 1LbXHMsxXJfaBdfNw9sasinYXS1at6KU2Z which had a total of BTC336 received into it before it was emptied. The odd thing is that there seems to have been a number of transactions outgoing from that address, many of them for small amounts, which would suggest it was a hot wallet they were simply using to pay for goods and services.

Either that or it is a mixing address.



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October 18, 2016, 11:09:24 AM
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Interesting point to note about this announcement:

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According to the distribution address http://omnichest.info/lookupadd.aspx?address=1En1EB2CznxGstNh1uFUPARMhAtRoy3nzF these 27 transfers were processed between 22:23 and 03:45 UK Time. Which suggests the possibility that Jawad and Co are no longer in the UK.

As for the "small number of registered users" remaining, the fact that there are, even after last night's distribution, still 8,809,715 more of these DEOS tokens to send out from the claimed 9,200,000 sold raises yet more questions as to WTF is going on with this scam right now. That is no small quantity and I'd speculate that it may well be because serious investors who put in large amounts of bitcoin and subsequently discovered the fraudulent nature of the whole thing, may be refusing to provide the information Jawad needs because they do not want to take delivery of these worthless tokens and are intent on attempting recovery of the several millions dollars-worth of bitcoin those 8.8+ million DEOS tokens would have been sold for.



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October 18, 2016, 01:31:51 PM
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I demanded a refund and they never sent my deos tokens.
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Nothing says a 'platform for the people' quite like demanding users register with their mobile phone number because . . .criticism trolls!

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What are you afraid of Jawad, a review?

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The irony . . .it burns!


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