BADecker
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August 22, 2016, 11:58:20 AM |
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As long as the US doesn't control its gun laws, its not going to be able to tackle these kinds of attacks efficiently. I believe this attack was because of a fight between 2 individuals at the party, but not much have been confirmed yet. I feel more sad for Munich where atleast they don't allow individuals to keep guns(or do they ? )
As long as Americans go publicly unarmed, they will remain subject to any joker who wants to shoot at them. Make it a legal requirement that every adult in America must be armed open carry when he is off his residence property and the crime will stop, and all but the daring will stay home at night where they belong. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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August 22, 2016, 02:47:24 PM |
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I'm 100% against gun free zones. When it comes to places where alcohol (among other things) is basically certain to be consumed, like a nightclub, all weapon must be prohibited. Anyway, I think owners of such places need to be responsible too for the safety of the people inside.
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August 22, 2016, 02:53:50 PM |
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Gun laws don't solve the psychopath problem, but it will atleast solve the availability of weapons to those psychopaths. The France truck case was a different case. Atleast the guy who fired on the nightclub wouldn't have driven the truck inside to kill. Without the availability of weapons he probably wouldn't have even done it.
Chicago IL Detroit MI Those two places have the worst gun violence in the Northwest hemisphere and the strictest gun laws in the USA. Please explain how gun laws keep guns away from psychopaths?
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August 22, 2016, 04:55:57 PM |
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Gun laws don't solve the psychopath problem, but it will atleast solve the availability of weapons to those psychopaths. The France truck case was a different case. Atleast the guy who fired on the nightclub wouldn't have driven the truck inside to kill. Without the availability of weapons he probably wouldn't have even done it.
Chicago IL Detroit MI Those two places have the worst gun violence in the Northwest hemisphere and the strictest gun laws in the USA. Please explain how gun laws keep guns away from psychopaths? I am not sure of those 2 places, but maybe the gun laws were implemented after a lot of guns being used ? There will always be counterexamples. I am not saying gun laws will solve everything, but will atleast bring it under control to some extent.
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August 22, 2016, 05:34:18 PM |
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Gun laws don't solve the psychopath problem, but it will atleast solve the availability of weapons to those psychopaths. The France truck case was a different case. Atleast the guy who fired on the nightclub wouldn't have driven the truck inside to kill. Without the availability of weapons he probably wouldn't have even done it.
Chicago IL Detroit MI Those two places have the worst gun violence in the Northwest hemisphere and the strictest gun laws in the USA. Please explain how gun laws keep guns away from psychopaths? Gun control is just a tactic put forward by the Democratic party and their racist supporters such as Reverend Pussy Jackson to exterminate the non-Hispanic white population in the United States. They have almost achieved their objective in Detoilet. The white population there has fallen to less than 10% of the overall population.
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BADecker
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August 22, 2016, 05:36:41 PM |
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Gun laws don't solve the psychopath problem, but it will atleast solve the availability of weapons to those psychopaths. The France truck case was a different case. Atleast the guy who fired on the nightclub wouldn't have driven the truck inside to kill. Without the availability of weapons he probably wouldn't have even done it.
Chicago IL Detroit MI Those two places have the worst gun violence in the Northwest hemisphere and the strictest gun laws in the USA. Please explain how gun laws keep guns away from psychopaths? I am not sure of those 2 places, but maybe the gun laws were implemented after a lot of guns being used ? There will always be counterexamples. I am not saying gun laws will solve everything, but will atleast bring it under control to some extent. The only way to implement gun control is with bigger guns. Then, after gun control has gotten rid of the public guns, use the law enforcement guns to force increased taxes. Then, after that, become like Hitler... all because you have the guns and the people don't. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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August 23, 2016, 08:30:52 AM |
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I'm 100% against gun free zones. When it comes to places where alcohol (among other things) is basically certain to be consumed, like a nightclub, all weapon must be prohibited. Anyway, I think owners of such places need to be responsible too for the safety of the people inside.
Indeed it is the standard operating procedures on bars alike where guns and other deadly weapons are banned. That is why there were huge guys or security personnel who were in front of every club to frisk everyone who enters. But of course, some criminals were able to hid those elements when entering a bar. Or maybe it was their lady friend who sneak those firearms into their groin or boobs inside the club as they would not be frisked by a guard. Many things are possible.
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August 23, 2016, 02:20:05 PM |
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If people wanted to kill they will find ways on how to kill. Those people might be taking drugs or have watching too much crime movies. To think that night clubs have security guards, how could someone enter that premise and just shoot. That nightclub should also be held liable for that shooting incident. This could not happen if they have tight security enforcement.
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August 23, 2016, 05:31:38 PM |
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It's the gun fault!!! Time to shred the constitution and bring the female savior and declare her president for life, abolish the Supreme Court and congress... Hillary is so wise, so smart, so honest that later she will be declared prophet!
No it's not the fault of the gun. Without this psychopath the gun wouldn't fire ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Taking away all the citizens their property is not a good solution to solve crime. I believe he's being sarcastic....
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August 23, 2016, 05:33:46 PM |
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If people wanted to kill they will find ways on how to kill. Those people might be taking drugs or have watching too much crime movies. To think that night clubs have security guards, how could someone enter that premise and just shoot. That nightclub should also be held liable for that shooting incident. This could not happen if they have tight security enforcement.
It's interesting how most of the shootings like this occurs in the US, sure there are a some in the other parts of the world but mostly in the US, so maybe it's not everything in the gun laws and such, yes people will always find a way to kill someone with or without the guns. I don'tthink guards will search you from head to toes, it's not an airline security...
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August 28, 2016, 02:01:12 PM |
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Whatever happened with the gay nightclub shooting. Was it ever determined is the psycho was gay?
He was a regular user of the club, make what you want of it.
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August 29, 2016, 09:38:17 AM |
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If people wanted to kill they will find ways on how to kill. Those people might be taking drugs or have watching too much crime movies. To think that night clubs have security guards, how could someone enter that premise and just shoot. That nightclub should also be held liable for that shooting incident. This could not happen if they have tight security enforcement.
First and foremost they have to restrict the selling of guns,if not sociopath like these prop up in a crowded area and starts shooting people. This is not the first incident this month and this wont be the last. It keeps on coming, daily we would hear some public shooting. when would the politicians open their eyes and put a ban on guns.
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awesome31312 (OP)
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August 29, 2016, 10:25:58 AM |
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If people wanted to kill they will find ways on how to kill. Those people might be taking drugs or have watching too much crime movies. To think that night clubs have security guards, how could someone enter that premise and just shoot. That nightclub should also be held liable for that shooting incident. This could not happen if they have tight security enforcement.
First and foremost they have to restrict the selling of guns,if not sociopath like these prop up in a crowded area and starts shooting people. This is not the first incident this month and this wont be the last. It keeps on coming, daily we would hear some public shooting. when would the politicians open their eyes and put a ban on guns.
The places where the shootings were carried out were "gun free zones" (But not really). Ironic isn't it
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designerusa
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August 30, 2016, 10:57:16 AM |
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As long as the US doesn't control its gun laws, its not going to be able to tackle these kinds of attacks efficiently. I believe this attack was because of a fight between 2 individuals at the party, but not much have been confirmed yet. I feel more sad for Munich where atleast they don't allow individuals to keep guns(or do they ? )
yes, united states must limit keeping and bearing arms because many people possess gun in united states and it causes so many crimes related to guns. us must change its gun possesion policy immediately.
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