Only ETC is the real Ethereum

[universe_]

That is all only in theory. In practice what will happen is the miners will switch to ETC. Vitalik would be crazy to announce any definite dates for Casper's release now. That will make the ETC chain stronger because miners want long term security to operate. Casper is a threat to them.

Yeah. That is why ETC will have a strong advantage over this in the future as miners will keep the network secure, while ETH switches to PoS and would be left behind. Then, after ETH is forgotten the original chain (ETC) would prevail and there will only be a single Ethereum. I'd bet that they're planning a The DAO 2.0 real soon. Let's see how this would turn out in the long run. Just my opinion. 

Are you typing without thinking? ETH will not go away even if it switches to Casper. Not all of the miners will mine ETC some will find a different altcoin depending on the price of ETC if it is profitable. I said this in another thread, what I foresee happening is that ETC will become a "community chain" with community projects like in NXT and ETH will become a "corporate chain" with venture capitalist backed projects. This will be good because each of them will have their own niche market.

I think the ETH PoS will be delayed for quite long time. The development of the Casper is not fast enough.

eth is bullshit right now, in my opinion the price of etc only is going to grow, there will be a new pump pretty soon that will allow me to make some good money

[Minecache]

That is all only in theory. In practice what will happen is the miners will switch to ETC. Vitalik would be crazy to announce any definite dates for Casper's release now. That will make the ETC chain stronger because miners want long term security to operate. Casper is a threat to them.

Yeah. That is why ETC will have a strong advantage over this in the future as miners will keep the network secure, while ETH switches to PoS and would be left behind. Then, after ETH is forgotten the original chain (ETC) would prevail and there will only be a single Ethereum. I'd bet that they're planning a The DAO 2.0 real soon. Let's see how this would turn out in the long run. Just my opinion.  

Are you typing without thinking? ETH will not go away even if it switches to Casper. Not all of the miners will mine ETC some will find a different altcoin depending on the price of ETC if it is profitable. I said this in another thread, what I foresee happening is that ETC will become a "community chain" with community projects like in NXT and ETH will become a "corporate chain" with venture capitalist backed projects. This will be good because each of them will have their own niche market.

I think the ETH PoS will be delayed for quite long time. The development of the Casper is not fast enough.

eth is bullshit right now, in my opinion the price of etc only is going to grow, there will be a new pump pretty soon that will allow me to make some good money

Highly doubt it. Everyone and their dog is currently getting out of ETC criminal coin as its been revelaed that the DAO attacker IS going to dump on the market. This is why the price, hash, and support is currently collapsing.

[shanem]

ETC keeps dropping every day with the rumour that the hacker is dumping. It seems to be near the bottom as I don't think the hacker will dump so cheaply. As he has a large stock of ETC, he will need to wait for people to FOMO and panick buy before he will dump.

[varusisog]

ETC keeps dropping every day with the rumour that the hacker is dumping. It seems to be near the bottom as I don't think the hacker will dump so cheaply. As he has a large stock of ETC, he will need to wait for people to FOMO and panick buy before he will dump.

I think the hacker does not have access to the ETC until the end of this months. But he can short the ETC now.

[ontrackk]

ETC keeps dropping every day with the rumour that the hacker is dumping. It seems to be near the bottom as I don't think the hacker will dump so cheaply. As he has a large stock of ETC, he will need to wait for people to FOMO and panick buy before he will dump.

I think the hacker does not have access to the ETC until the end of this months. But he can short the ETC now.

i dont know too much about it right now but i think that at the moment he will have ethereum he will dump it really fast but etc is still way better

[oblivi]

The biggest problem with ETH is that now once the precedent of a bailout hard fork is set is very, very hard to trust this project.
What will happen once another smart contract disaster happens again? Cmon!

Yes it's very hard to trust a project and community that seeks to do the morally correct thing. Better to put all your blind faith in 1 anonymous criminal who only has nefarious thoughts and actions at heart.

"Community"? Only a tiny amount voted. Most people have a life and cant be looking at whats going up all day, that's why Bitcoin is better, it would take months until a hard fork is activated, here it was rushed and with glitches like replay attack.

What morality? Do you think it was morally correct to put millions in a super experimental smart contract thing? That is the definition of greed and immaturity. And don't get me started with Vitalik trying to stop the exchanges...

[Minecache]

The biggest problem with ETH is that now once the precedent of a bailout hard fork is set is very, very hard to trust this project.
What will happen once another smart contract disaster happens again? Cmon!

Yes it's very hard to trust a project and community that seeks to do the morally correct thing. Better to put all your blind faith in 1 anonymous criminal who only has nefarious thoughts and actions at heart.

"Community"? Only a tiny amount voted. Most people have a life and cant be looking at whats going up all day, that's why Bitcoin is better, it would take months until a hard fork is activated, here it was rushed and with glitches like replay attack.

What morality? Do you think it was morally correct to put millions in a super experimental smart contract thing? That is the definition of greed and immaturity. And don't get me started with Vitalik trying to stop the exchanges...

here they had a set deadline to fork. And considering the tight timescale it was a success and proves how strong ETH is when the community works together. As for voting. If you don't vote then you are happy with the consensus of others or aren't not that bothered so voter turnout is irrelevant.

[Abiky]

Are you typing without thinking? ETH will not go away even if it switches to Casper. Not all of the miners will mine ETC some will find a different altcoin depending on the price of ETC if it is profitable. I said this in another thread, what I foresee happening is that ETC will become a "community chain" with community projects like in NXT and ETH will become a "corporate chain" with venture capitalist backed projects. This will be good because each of them will have their own niche market.

Well said. I guess that ETH and ETC will coexist in the long term. This way would be ideal as ETC can be used for community stuff, while ETH can serve its purpose for businesses/companies. It will be very interesting to see what will be the price of each in the future, but it will be best (in my opinion) to have hold both of them just in case.

One thing that I'm trying to figure out is how to split my ETH/ETC in order to avoid replay attacks. Will making a new ETH and ETC address suffice? Sorry for asking, I just find all of this a little confusing. 

[Minecache]

Are you typing without thinking? ETH will not go away even if it switches to Casper. Not all of the miners will mine ETC some will find a different altcoin depending on the price of ETC if it is profitable. I said this in another thread, what I foresee happening is that ETC will become a "community chain" with community projects like in NXT and ETH will become a "corporate chain" with venture capitalist backed projects. This will be good because each of them will have their own niche market.

Well said. I guess that ETH and ETC will coexist in the long term. This way would be ideal as ETC can be used for community stuff, while ETH can serve its purpose for businesses/companies. It will be very interesting to see what will be the price of each in the future, but it will be best (in my opinion) to have hold both of them just in case.

One thing that I'm trying to figure out is how to split my ETH/ETC in order to avoid replay attacks. Will making a new ETH and ETC address suffice? Sorry for asking, I just find all of this a little confusing.  

Use 2 separate machines or virtual machines. Install Mist supporting fork on one and Mist not supporting fork the other. Download both blockchains. Create new ETH address on the Mist supporting fork machine and create new ETC criminal coin address on machine not supporting fork. Transfer your ETH to new ETH address. Transfer your ETC criminal coins to new ETC criminal coin address.

[barabbas]

ETC has just about the same chances of success that BYC has.

[Abiky]

Use 2 separate machines or virtual machines. Install Mist supporting fork on one and Mist not supporting fork the other. Download both blockchains. Create new ETH address on the Mist supporting fork machine and create new ETC criminal coin address on machine not supporting fork. Transfer your ETH to new ETH address. Transfer your ETC criminal coins to new ETC criminal coin address.

Thanks for the tip. Even though, I do not support criminal events like The DAO hack (which ETC supports) I will only hold a very minimal amount of ETC coins in case its gets pumped at some time. I highly doubt that ETC may get somewhere but you'll never know when you'd miss the chance to profit by having a few coins. I will proceed with caution with this. 

[Minecache]

Use 2 separate machines or virtual machines. Install Mist supporting fork on one and Mist not supporting fork the other. Download both blockchains. Create new ETH address on the Mist supporting fork machine and create new ETC criminal coin address on machine not supporting fork. Transfer your ETH to new ETH address. Transfer your ETC criminal coins to new ETC criminal coin address.

Thanks for the tip. Even though, I do not support criminal events like The DAO hack (which ETC supports) I will only hold a very minimal amount of ETC coins in case its gets pumped at some time. I highly doubt that ETC may get somewhere but you'll never know when you'd miss the chance to profit by having a few coins. I will proceed with caution with this. 

Gud luck with whatever you decide sir. Personally I've split my coins and will hodl both. I was always hodling ETH but will hodl the ETC criminal coins because I refuse to partake in promoting the market and price of the ETC criminal coin as its against my strict morals.

[Thenoticer]

Use 2 separate machines or virtual machines. Install Mist supporting fork on one and Mist not supporting fork the other. Download both blockchains. Create new ETH address on the Mist supporting fork machine and create new ETC criminal coin address on machine not supporting fork. Transfer your ETH to new ETH address. Transfer your ETC criminal coins to new ETC criminal coin address.

Thanks for the tip. Even though, I do not support criminal events like The DAO hack (which ETC supports) I will only hold a very minimal amount of ETC coins in case its gets pumped at some time. I highly doubt that ETC may get somewhere but you'll never know when you'd miss the chance to profit by having a few coins. I will proceed with caution with this. 

Gud luck with whatever you decide sir. Personally I've split my coins and will hodl both. I was always hodling ETH but will hodl the ETC criminal coins because I refuse to partake in promoting the market and price of the ETC criminal coin as its against my strict morals.

Rofl.

Ok, now will you please fuck off from this forum you goofey shill

[bbc.reporter]

ETC has just about the same chances of success that BYC has.

Can you please expound more why you have come to that conclusion? I tried to think of one but I am seeing that it is trading at high volume in multiple exchanges that it is hard to compare this with Bytecent. If that is a sarcastic remark I do not see the point.

[TraderETH]

ETH realy burn money investors who made Investment in it, and today price ETC is going down and i think it is time for buy ETC.

[dumana]

ETH realy burn money investors who made Investment in it, and today price ETC is going down and i think it is time for buy ETC.

The ETC just declared the independence. So it will not use the Ethereum development. It has to support itself. It might be costly.

[dwgscale11]

Use 2 separate machines or virtual machines. Install Mist supporting fork on one and Mist not supporting fork the other. Download both blockchains. Create new ETH address on the Mist supporting fork machine and create new ETC criminal coin address on machine not supporting fork. Transfer your ETH to new ETH address. Transfer your ETC criminal coins to new ETC criminal coin address.

Thanks for the tip. Even though, I do not support criminal events like The DAO hack (which ETC supports) I will only hold a very minimal amount of ETC coins in case its gets pumped at some time. I highly doubt that ETC may get somewhere but you'll never know when you'd miss the chance to profit by having a few coins. I will proceed with caution with this. 

Gud luck with whatever you decide sir. Personally I've split my coins and will hodl both. I was always hodling ETH but will hodl the ETC criminal coins because I refuse to partake in promoting the market and price of the ETC criminal coin as its against my strict morals.

You're partaking in criminal ETC by holding ETC too you contradicting scummy shill.

[oblivi]

The biggest problem with ETH is that now once the precedent of a bailout hard fork is set is very, very hard to trust this project.
What will happen once another smart contract disaster happens again? Cmon!

Yes it's very hard to trust a project and community that seeks to do the morally correct thing. Better to put all your blind faith in 1 anonymous criminal who only has nefarious thoughts and actions at heart.

"Community"? Only a tiny amount voted. Most people have a life and cant be looking at whats going up all day, that's why Bitcoin is better, it would take months until a hard fork is activated, here it was rushed and with glitches like replay attack.

What morality? Do you think it was morally correct to put millions in a super experimental smart contract thing? That is the definition of greed and immaturity. And don't get me started with Vitalik trying to stop the exchanges...

here they had a set deadline to fork. And considering the tight timescale it was a success and proves how strong ETH is when the community works together. As for voting. If you don't vote then you are happy with the consensus of others or aren't not that bothered so voter turnout is irrelevant.

Dude are you serious? How can you call this a success?

There are 2 coins now, and they did not expect 2 coins.
There is a replay attack bug that cannot be fixed unless a new fork happens.

You can't call this a success.

[lanbo]

ETC without Vitalik Buterin is not real Ethereum at all. Respect!

[bbc.reporter]

ETC without Vitalik Buterin is not real Ethereum at all. Respect!

Vitalik != Ethereum. Either one can live without the other just fine. But if you really want Vitalik you can have him. ETC does not need anyone who panics and makes stupid decisions. He used to have an image of a boy genius who will save the world. He is nothing but a profit seeking little kid now. That is his new image. It will take a long time for that to go away.