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August 01, 2016, 08:37:46 PM
Last edit: August 01, 2016, 09:13:22 PM by AgentofCoin
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For now I think we have enough information without further analysis.  The analysis is not scientific proof as the police are presenting it.  Its a new technology and is not admissible in to a court of law (in the USA anyway).  Importantly what could be analysied as a 'clean' transaction one year ago could now be seen as linked to an illegal website as links can be changed at any time.  

Due to the complexity of this issue and how wallets/addresses work within the bitcoin network,
and due to the ignorance of the court system on how the Bitcoin system actually functions,
it would be in your interest to get a "expert" in Bitcoin to write a certification on your behalf to
explain what is and is not possible with the Bitcoin network. Maybe also hire someone to testify
in your trial.

In theory, your statement about links not being linked till a year later is correct, but the site could be
subpoenaed to answer when the site added it and it could have been added years in the past.
Meaning that at the time, the site could have had that information when you performed the buy/sell.
(You still have no legal requirement (that I am aware of) to check all incoming bitcoin txs origins.)

It is important to have expert testimony on your behalf at trial, so that the prosecution does not misconstrued or
outright make up what can or can not be done or how the system works. You will need an expert to dispute their
misunderstandings and unreasonable expectations.

This is just my personal opinion and should not be considered legal advice.

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August 04, 2016, 08:51:02 AM
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OP am sorry for your trouble but it would be helpful for the whole community to know how thet actually got to you  Smiley
I mean was it kraken reporting to them or? Because finding an actual name & info behind an address requires some rats
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i think all digital crypto currencies b verified by global blockchain body so that scamers  dont do harm to d ppl   myselfleo
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September 02, 2016, 07:07:14 AM
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this is a little late, but i have a little experience with darknet sites, as its no secret that i was an admin for Silk Road. When Silk Road was new, DPR pretty much used one bitcoin address for buyers to send to, then the bitcoin would show up in your account. that address was used for about 9 months, i think.  I can guarantee you that the government knows many many addresses from the dark net, they probably have a way to know that its coming from a darknet and which one. SR did utilize a tumbler to "hide" the original bitcoin addresses when btc was transferred out.

I know in the USA the prosecution is supposed to show everything that they have against you, and I'm sure your lawyers can get your computer and analyze it to see what addresses you did use.

The government has unlimited resources and they have tons of help, there is a reason that DPR #2 (Blake i think is his first name) isn't in prison, and probably won't ever be in prison, I bet you can guess what he's doing right now. Not helping bitcoiners, thats for sure.

When I was arrested, the govt didn't know much at all about Bitcoin, hell I taught Shaun Bridges a lot and he was the governments specialist on Bitcoin. Trust me, they are now much smarter when it comes to Bitcoin, especially with Chainalysys. Even using a mixing service won't help much if you are doing something illegal, (so don't).. Its 2016 and trust me, the Bitcoin world has really changed from when I started...

I have a feeling the govt can tell if TOR is used when sending bitcoin, that right there is a big hint, so getting ip addresses and getting info from chainalysys is a good start. but remember, chainalysys major client is the US Govt. so i don't know how much id trust them, but try to get as much info as possible to help your case.

Ill never forget the advice that was given to me when the Baltimore team dropped me off at my house, they advised me to forget bitcoin and to quit mining and to sell all bitcoin as bitcoin is only used for nefarious purposes and is ultimately a bad investment. When they told me this bitcoin was around 17 dollar a piece i think, a lot they knew.

Good luck, If I can help, don't be afraid to ask, if i can (and Its legal) I will.

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