[ANN][rICO]Antshares Blockchain Mainnet is ONLINE!

[onetwo12]

BFT Consensus can not support a large scale nodes, you are wrong.

it can never be decentralized like bitcoin and Ethereum..

it's more like a centralized network.

then why you buy some data from a centralized network?

i am not trying to fuds, but that's the truth of science.

Even the first sentence of the ANS whitepaper makes clear that it is decentralised. The current layout supports a theoretical maximum of 10000 Bookkeeping nodes. Every ANS represents a vote. We can make decisions about the system itself just fine. Enjoy your Bitcoin and Ethereum. Bitcoin will probably use as much electricity as Denmark by 2020 and both Ethereum and Bitcoin cannot handle truly vast transaction flows. Also enjoy your forking potential and the One Man bookkeeping limitations that both systems provide. You stick to Bitcoin and Ethereum and I will stick to ANS and we will see what is more successful in the long run. How is that for a deal?

Are Bitcoin and Ethereum more decentralised? Yes, but that comes at the cost of vast energy expense, inefficiency and speed. A single bitcoin transaction uses as much energy as almost four households use for a day. You might call that great. I call that bad design. I am fine with agreeing to disagree. The markets will speak for themselves.

everyone just saying they are better than BTC.

yes, you are right, you can have a lot SPV wallet or so called bookkeeping nodes,

but you do not have the right to be a full nodes, you just listen what the validation nodes tell you.

that's make no difference someone rent 8 server to offer money printing service.

and you do not even know what you are buying, time will tell who is right.

Bitcoin is bitcoin, Ethereum will be Ethereum.

You obviously did not notice that at https://www.antshares.org/ the number of FULL NODES at this point is 417. I think the only requirement to become a full node is having 10,000 ANS and running the proper Linux system whilst meeting all technical specifications. Everyone else who runs it is in effect a light node. If you read the network protocol (https://github.com/AntShares/AntShares/wiki/Network-Protocol), you will see that ANS holders can vote on validator candidates and it can be increased to a maximum of 1024. Validator candidates can be accepted, rejected or revoked. This is a continuous process. Let's give another example: Does a Presidential candidate run the country? No, it is a candidate who can be elected by others. That is the same with the validator candidates you are referring to. If you noticed carefully, 7 are effective and 1 was revoked. This appears to be an old list for selecting candidates. The number that matters is the 417 FULL NODES. This number is increasingly rapidly in the last few days. Contrary to Bitcoin ANS holders get to vote on which parties they trust to run the system.

no, i think the things matter is validation nodes, if this 8 validations node went down, this system worth nothing

that's the reason why i say this will never become a currency.. just a hype.

but it's doesn't matter stupid people will buy this.

and price will still go up ..

i do not what to say.. but this year we are seeing a lot of new people in crypto..

so it's has nothing to do with technology, only things matter is PR.

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[taipei]

HOLD is HOLD!!! 

[bobo012]

Volatility seems to have calmed down. Hope we rise from here

[yugu]

Volatility seems to have calmed down. Hope we rise from here

At least, to the initial yesterday values...
Unless, it will crash down further to 0.02 btc.
Then I officially have no clue how this is supposed to work.
Please, tell me someone very big one is trying to temporarily low the market preparing it for a massive buy...

[collac]

why price decline¿

[Sam-Os]

What is the size of the blockchain for Antshares and where is it installed in windows? Can I move the location of the blockchain?

nevermind: it seems the block chain installs in the folder wherever you run the application from.

[Atlienz404]

Then, why its price is falling like insane right in these seconds?

Whales flooding the market to buy more coins at a lower price it's about to even out or go back up as we soeak

[Jimmi Andersen]

Does anyone know who owns the 8 validation nodes? Is it just the antshares team? If it is then it's centralised.

[spirea]

Then, why its price is falling like insane right in these seconds?

Whales flooding the market to buy more coins at a lower price it's about to even out or go back up as we soeak

yes its pretty clear cristal : a whales are putting a sell whale of 120 BTC at 0.00309000 on bittrex and a buy whale of 22BTC at  0.00305401  so they can buy cheap at 0.003 level.

The price will skyrocket soon. so hold do not get eaten by whales   

[timmyzhl]

The current was too expensive, now how the revenue generated by mining

[MrSunshine]

why price decline¿

Classic buy the rumor and sell on the news (news from June 22 conference). The price got a ahead of itself and the news from the conference wasn't earth shattering. Still I think it is an excellent long term hold.

[Ashara]

Does anyone know who owns the 8 validation nodes? Is it just the antshares team? If it is then it's centralised.

There are not 8 validator nodes. The word used there is 'validator candidates'. Huge difference. You do not just become a validator node. ANS/Neo holders have to vote on it. There are more than 400 full nodes. Those are the validator nodes. The individual spreading the disinformation either wants to buy more at your expense or simply is an Ethereum or Bitcoin holder. Read the network protocol. It states amongst other things the following: "This transaction represents a vote, which indicates that the sponsor wants to vote on one or more of the registered validator candidates. It can be voted to 1024 candidates at maximum and one people at minimum. The weight of the vote is equal to the number of AntShares in this transaction." Source:https://github.com/AntShares/AntShares/wiki/Network-Protocol

The list of validator candidates there is old information and it should and probably will be updated in the near future. Of course the Antshares websites are not up to date when they are being replaced by Neo websites. The English versions for the time also being lag behind the Chinese versions. If you know how your wallet works, you will find that you can vote on a new full node candidate for example. ANS/Neo is relatively more centralised than Bitcoin and Ethereum (yet still decentralised), but unlike the others you do get to vote on full nodes and the network will never consume as much electricity as a country like Denmark, whilst having absolutely superior speed.

[Noobquestions]

When my ANS are in my desktop wallet, do i have to do anything else to claim ANC? (Theres a menu button for that?)
Or do they come automatically to my wallet?

[Ashara]

When my ANS are in my desktop wallet, do i have to do anything else to claim ANC? (Theres a menu button for that?)
Or do they come automatically to my wallet?

There is indeed a button for it to claim ANC, but when you start out it is listed as unavailable. In the following thread an answer is given on how to truly claim them: https://www.reddit.com/r/Antshares/comments/6eddt1/antcoins_anc_distribution_and_claim_tutorial/

Excerpts from that link:

"CheckOutMyDopeness 3 points 21 days ago

thanks for this. but i still can't claim my ANC. AntCoin claim shows Availble: 0, Unavailable: 37.167

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[–]Cntrlsquare 2 points 21 days ago

I can field this one - you need to send the entire balance of your ANS to yourself. Then wait a small bit and the ANC will switch from unavailable to available. It seems like you have to do this every time you want to move ANC from unavailable to available (that is my experience so far at least)

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[–]CheckOutMyDopeness 1 point 21 days ago

thanks for the help but i dont seem to have any way of sending the balance to myself. the only asset i am able to send is ANS. i dont seem to have any way to send my (...) ANC. i'm using the windows AntShares Core. any more advice?

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[–]Cntrlsquare 1 point 21 days ago

It's the ANS that you need to send yourself. I'm also using antshares core with wibdows. Sending myself my ANS seems to move any unavailable ANC into the available bucket.

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[–]zimmah 1 point 5 days ago

doesn't this cost a fee to do that every time?

do the antcoins also have any value on their own? Can they be traded/sold/transacted?

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[–]Cntrlsquare 1 point 5 days ago

It doesn't cost a fee as far as I can tell. ANC is supposed to be similar to gas for eth. I'm not sure if/where they are currently traded."

[Jayjay04]

People dumping dont even know whats going on. They are just following the profit taking phase from the ones selling the news. This will go back up soon, dont worry !

[aznredpill]

Hello guys,

Over at Reddit we're beginning to rebrand as well. Please join at www.reddit.com/r/neoblockchain

We're looking for new mods who care about the community and can help build up the community to greater heights than Antshares ever had!

If you're part of the official NEO/Antshares team, please reach out to me to get involved as well. (I sent you an email to contact@antshares.org haha)

Thanks all!

[cpozzer]

Hello guys,

Over at Reddit we're beginning to rebrand as well. Please join at www.reddit.com/r/neoblockchain

We're looking for new mods who care about the community and can help build up the community to greater heights than Antshares ever had!

If you're part of the official NEO/Antshares team, please reach out to me to get involved as well. (I sent you an email to contact@antshares.org haha)

Thanks all!

They have already asked mods to take it down! You keep spamming the world

https://www.reddit.com/r/Antshares/comments/6isvwt/mods_can_you_please_ban_aznredpil_for_spamming/

[aznredpill]

"They" who?

The mods with full permissions of the /r/antshares community are inactive.

It's time to transition to a new brand and new subreddit. You're welcome to join us as a mod and make it a better community. Just message me.

[Vlizzjeffrey]

So this so called '' big'' conference didnt do shit, just what i expected.

[@boutiuqe]

This shit anit go nowhere.
I will go back where it belong 7,000 satoshis