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February 22, 2017, 06:35:46 AM
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I just used Ubuntu 14.04.4 and installed fglrx.

Then the normal LBC install.

As for the GPU client: Can you write more about hardware you use and keyrate you get out of it?

I'm adding some overview of speed for complete system configurations
https://lbc.cryptoguru.org/man/admin#generator-speed


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February 22, 2017, 12:27:03 PM
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There is a new version, which fixes the rogue "Death Kiss" events.

Please update as follows:

End your LBC client
Do a LBC -u (you should have a 1.031 or newer)
Start your LBC as usual

If you haven't updated yet (I see clients as old as 0.993), you are also missing out quite some keyrate.
There are reports of 1.6 Mkeys -> 2.1 Mkeys for CPU clients on VMs


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I just used Ubuntu 14.04.4 and installed fglrx.

Then the normal LBC install.

As for the GPU client: Can you write more about hardware you use and keyrate you get out of it?

I'm adding some overview of speed for complete system configurations
https://lbc.cryptoguru.org/man/admin#generator-speed


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Yep, I will do that after work.

It's after work:

Code:
processor       : 0
vendor_id       : AuthenticAMD
cpu family      : 21
model           : 16
model name      : AMD A8-5500 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics
stepping        : 1
microcode       : 0x6001116
cpu MHz         : 1400.000
cache size      : 2048 KB
physical id     : 0
siblings        : 4
core id         : 0
cpu cores       : 2
apicid          : 16
initial apicid  : 0
fpu             : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level     : 13
wp              : yes
flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov                                                                                                                                                              pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp                                                                                                                                                              lm constant_tsc rep_good nopl nonstop_tsc extd_apicid aperfmperf pni pclmulqdq                                                                                                                                                              monitor ssse3 fma cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 popcnt aes xsave avx f16c lahf_lm cmp_legac                                                                                                                                                             y svm extapic cr8_legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs xop skinit                                                                                                                                                              wdt lwp fma4 tce nodeid_msr tbm topoext perfctr_core perfctr_nb arat cpb hw_pst                                                                                                                                                             ate npt lbrv svm_lock nrip_save tsc_scale vmcb_clean flushbyasid decodeassists p                                                                                                                                                             ausefilter pfthreshold vmmcall bmi1
bugs            : fxsave_leak sysret_ss_attrs
bogomips        : 6388.03
TLB size        : 1536 4K pages
clflush size    : 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes   : 48 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts ttp tm 100mhzsteps hwpstate cpb eff_freq_ro

processor       : 1
vendor_id       : AuthenticAMD
cpu family      : 21
model           : 16
model name      : AMD A8-5500 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics
stepping        : 1
microcode       : 0x6001116
cpu MHz         : 1400.000
cache size      : 2048 KB
physical id     : 0
siblings        : 4
core id         : 1
cpu cores       : 2
apicid          : 17
initial apicid  : 1
fpu             : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level     : 13
wp              : yes
flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov                                                                                                                                                              pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp                                                                                                                                                              lm constant_tsc rep_good nopl nonstop_tsc extd_apicid aperfmperf pni pclmulqdq                                                                                                                                                              monitor ssse3 fma cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 popcnt aes xsave avx f16c lahf_lm cmp_legac                                                                                                                                                             y svm extapic cr8_legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs xop skinit                                                                                                                                                              wdt lwp fma4 tce nodeid_msr tbm topoext perfctr_core perfctr_nb arat cpb hw_pst                                                                                                                                                             ate npt lbrv svm_lock nrip_save tsc_scale vmcb_clean flushbyasid decodeassists p                                                                                                                                                             ausefilter pfthreshold vmmcall bmi1
bugs            : fxsave_leak sysret_ss_attrs
bogomips        : 6388.03
TLB size        : 1536 4K pages
clflush size    : 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes   : 48 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts ttp tm 100mhzsteps hwpstate cpb eff_freq_ro

processor       : 2
vendor_id       : AuthenticAMD
cpu family      : 21
model           : 16
model name      : AMD A8-5500 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics
stepping        : 1
cpu MHz         : 1400.000
cache size      : 2048 KB
physical id     : 0
siblings        : 4
core id         : 2
cpu cores       : 2
apicid          : 18
initial apicid  : 2
fpu             : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level     : 13
wp              : yes
flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov                                                                                                                                                              pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp                                                                                                                                                              lm constant_tsc rep_good nopl nonstop_tsc extd_apicid aperfmperf pni pclmulqdq                                                                                                                                                              monitor ssse3 fma cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 popcnt aes xsave avx f16c lahf_lm cmp_legac                                                                                                                                                             y svm extapic cr8_legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs xop skinit                                                                                                                                                              wdt lwp fma4 tce nodeid_msr tbm topoext perfctr_core perfctr_nb arat cpb hw_pst                                                                                                                                                             ate npt lbrv svm_lock nrip_save tsc_scale vmcb_clean flushbyasid decodeassists p                                                                                                                                                             ausefilter pfthreshold vmmcall bmi1
bugs            : fxsave_leak sysret_ss_attrs
bogomips        : 6388.03
TLB size        : 1536 4K pages
clflush size    : 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes   : 48 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts ttp tm 100mhzsteps hwpstate cpb eff_freq_ro

processor       : 3
vendor_id       : AuthenticAMD
cpu family      : 21
model           : 16
model name      : AMD A8-5500 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics
stepping        : 1
cpu MHz         : 1400.000
cache size      : 2048 KB
physical id     : 0
siblings        : 4
core id         : 3
cpu cores       : 2
apicid          : 19
initial apicid  : 3
fpu             : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level     : 13
wp              : yes
flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov                                                                                                                                                              pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp                                                                                                                                                              lm constant_tsc rep_good nopl nonstop_tsc extd_apicid aperfmperf pni pclmulqdq                                                                                                                                                              monitor ssse3 fma cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 popcnt aes xsave avx f16c lahf_lm cmp_legac                                                                                                                                                             y svm extapic cr8_legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs xop skinit                                                                                                                                                              wdt lwp fma4 tce nodeid_msr tbm topoext perfctr_core perfctr_nb arat cpb hw_pst                                                                                                                                                             ate npt lbrv svm_lock nrip_save tsc_scale vmcb_clean flushbyasid decodeassists p                                                                                                                                                             ausefilter pfthreshold vmmcall bmi1
bugs            : fxsave_leak sysret_ss_attrs
bogomips        : 6388.03
TLB size        : 1536 4K pages
clflush size    : 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes   : 48 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts ttp tm 100mhzsteps hwpstate cpb eff_freq_ro


Key rate:

Your maximum speed is 578988 keys/s per CPU core.

Averaging around 2.18Mkeys using a Sapphire 7970 reference card to assist 4 cores (-c 4).


As for OS, I used Ubuntu 14.04.4 because that is the last known version to work well with OpenCL.

So fresh Ubuntu install, then I sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install fglrx, RESTART PC, install LBC, profit.

Thanks,
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February 23, 2017, 08:09:41 AM
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Code:
model name      : AMD A8-5500 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics

Key rate:
Your maximum speed is 578988 keys/s per CPU core.
Averaging around 2.18Mkeys using a Sapphire 7970 reference card to assist 4 cores (-c 4).

As for OS, I used Ubuntu 14.04.4 because that is the last known version to work well with OpenCL.

So fresh Ubuntu install, then I sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install fglrx, RESTART PC, install LBC, profit.

Very, VERY interesting because of several reasons:

1) I'm still unable to get my AMD GPU working  Undecided
Code:
root@rico666-desktop:/home/rico666/collider# time ./gen-hrdcore-sse42+gpu-linux64 -I 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 -c 10000
Couldn't create a command queue: Out of host memory

Tried Arch, ditched that after half a day of error messages and install woes, Installed Ubuntu 16.04 with AMDGPU Pro on a USB stick -> same result. Aaargh. So you beat me there. I cannot run my own program, but you can.

2) I do have a R9 280X which is pretty near to your 7970, however when I look up the specs for the AMD A8-5500 APU, it says there's a Radeon 7560D built in there somewhere. So just to be clear. You have a system with that AMD APU + 7970? So you have 2 GPUs?
And you are sure LBC takes the 7970 to assist and not the 7560D? Because when I look at the diagnostics-OpenCL you sent me, there are - in fact - two Tahiti devices lurking there, and the 1st one is the 7560D.

So unless you are starting LBC with -gdev 2, you are using the 7560D to assist. Might want to cross check that.

3) Your AMD APU reminded me, I have something similar here sitting in my Kodi box:

 AMD A6-5400K APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics - it claims to have a 7540D, I might try that.



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Code:
model name      : AMD A8-5500 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics

Key rate:
Your maximum speed is 578988 keys/s per CPU core.
Averaging around 2.18Mkeys using a Sapphire 7970 reference card to assist 4 cores (-c 4).

As for OS, I used Ubuntu 14.04.4 because that is the last known version to work well with OpenCL.

So fresh Ubuntu install, then I sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install fglrx, RESTART PC, install LBC, profit.

Very, VERY interesting because of several reasons:

1) I'm still unable to get my AMD GPU working  Undecided
Code:
root@rico666-desktop:/home/rico666/collider# time ./gen-hrdcore-sse42+gpu-linux64 -I 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 -c 10000
Couldn't create a command queue: Out of host memory

Tried Arch, ditched that after half a day of error messages and install woes, Installed Ubuntu 16.04 with AMDGPU Pro on a USB stick -> same result. Aaargh. So you beat me there. I cannot run my own program, but you can.

2) I do have a R9 280X which is pretty near to your 7970, however when I look up the specs for the AMD A8-5500 APU, it says there's a Radeon 7560D built in there somewhere. So just to be clear. You have a system with that AMD APU + 7970? So you have 2 GPUs?
And you are sure LBC takes the 7970 to assist and not the 7560D? Because when I look at the diagnostics-OpenCL you sent me, there are - in fact - two Tahiti devices lurking there, and the 1st one is the 7560D.

So unless you are starting LBC with -gdev 2, you are using the 7560D to assist. Might want to cross check that.

3) Your AMD APU reminded me, I have something similar here sitting in my Kodi box:

 AMD A6-5400K APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics - it claims to have a 7540D, I might try that.



Rico


1. Hmm, try setting environment variables for the GPU.

2. I tried using all the devices on my rig and got the same hash rate for each one.

I have 2 7970s and one 7950 on my rig, I went through devices 1-4 and achieved the same rate.

Thanks,
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Hey, LBC!!!    Did somebody just whup yo ass?  (Philosophically, if not SHA-256ishly)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=293382.20

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February 23, 2017, 02:38:22 PM
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Hey, LBC!!!    Did somebody just whup yo ass?  (Philosophically, if not SHA-256ishly)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=293382.20

SHA1 ... bah. That's like beating up a grown up MD5.

6500 CPU-years & 100 GPU years  Roll Eyes

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I managed to get the Bloom Filter check done on GPU also.

with some more optimizations total time for 16M keys went down about 0.2 secs on my machine.
Tested with -L 5 (generating 5 x 16M consecutive keys but just 1 startup cost), the time went down 0.5s per 16M keys so I'm at about 2396745 keys/s per core now.

Did some benchmarking and my M2000M Quadro - a midrange notebook GPU - does 60M of my BTC-optimized hash160 code + bloom-check per second. That's enough horsepower to check 30 Mkeys (uncompressed + compressed) per second.

If they are provided fast enough...

So how do I get from my current 7 Mkeys/s to 30 Mkeys/s?

I'd like to pursue some of the ideas arulbero threw in on ECC pubkey generation, but after having looked at his code and also at things like "supervanitygen" (which is now officially less than half the speed of LBC), It's pretty clear I will have to come up with something on my own.
And also that I will have to move ECC to the GPU.


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lets see if i understand the idea, are you trying to find another private key that should exists by a given public key(in this case public addresses), if i am not wrong this mathematically should take thouthands or millions of years, is that the idea behind the project? what about quantic processing that is actually working, i think that 's why this should be unfeasible at least for the moment, more processing capabilities needed.

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I managed to get the Bloom Filter check done on GPU also.

with some more optimizations total time for 16M keys went down about 0.2 secs on my machine.
Tested with -L 5 (generating 5 x 16M consecutive keys but just 1 startup cost), the time went down 0.5s per 16M keys so I'm at about 2396745 keys/s per core now.

Did some benchmarking and my M2000M Quadro - a midrange notebook GPU - does 60M of my BTC-optimized hash160 code + bloom-check per second. That's enough horsepower to check 30 Mkeys (uncompressed + compressed) per second.

If they are provided fast enough...

So how do I get from my current 7 Mkeys/s to 30 Mkeys/s?

I'd like to pursue some of the ideas arulbero threw in on ECC pubkey generation, but after having looked at his code and also at things like "supervanitygen" (which is now officially less than half the speed of LBC), It's pretty clear I will have to come up with something on my own.
And also that I will have to move ECC to the GPU.


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This may be of some use: https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/e1b1/1b509ac7c4f049ebab19caf57fcd0622b3c0.pdf

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Congrats! And ... what? ... better keyrate than me? I have to o.p.t.i.m.i.z.e.  more Cool


I'm getting more and more feedback about GPU clients finally working with some heart-lung machine work.
I'll publish a new client soon which wraps up all the fixes, so GPU experience will be smooth.


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Why isn't using all resources? Only 25%
Code:
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| NVIDIA-SMI 375.26                 Driver Version: 375.26                    |
|-------------------------------+----------------------+----------------------+
| GPU  Name        Persistence-M| Bus-Id        Disp.A | Volatile Uncorr. ECC |
| Fan  Temp  Perf  Pwr:Usage/Cap|         Memory-Usage | GPU-Util  Compute M. |
|===============================+======================+======================|
|   0  GeForce GTX 1080    Off  | 0000:01:00.0      On |                  N/A |
| 29%   54C    P2    49W / 200W |   1217MiB /  8113MiB |     25%      Default |
+-------------------------------+----------------------+----------------------+
                                                                               
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Processes:                                                       GPU Memory |
|  GPU       PID  Type  Process name                               Usage      |
|=============================================================================|
|    0      1162    G   /usr/lib/xorg/Xorg                             181MiB |
|    0      2889    G   compiz                                         114MiB |
|    0     10005    C   ./gen-hrdcore-avx2+gpu-linux64                 115MiB |
|    0     10008    C   ./gen-hrdcore-avx2+gpu-linux64                 115MiB |
|    0     10011    C   ./gen-hrdcore-avx2+gpu-linux64                 115MiB |
|    0     10012    C   ./gen-hrdcore-avx2+gpu-linux64                 115MiB |
|    0     10013    C   ./gen-hrdcore-avx2+gpu-linux64                 115MiB |
|    0     10014    C   ./gen-hrdcore-avx2+gpu-linux64                 115MiB |
|    0     10015    C   ./gen-hrdcore-avx2+gpu-linux64                 115MiB |
|    0     10016    C   ./gen-hrdcore-avx2+gpu-linux64                 115MiB |
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Why isn't using all resources? Only 25%

Because your GPU is too fast. Or your CPU too slow. Pick one of the explanations ;-)

My CPU-GPU combo uses 34% of the GPU

On Amazon machines, around 8-10 CPU cores are able to saturate a K80 GPU
(that's because both their CPU and GPU are slow)

So yes, there is a HUGE discrepancy between CPU and GPU computational power, so I'm trying to shift more and more load to the GPU.

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lets see if i understand the idea, are you trying to find another private key that should exists by a given public key(in this case public addresses), if i am not wrong this mathematically should take thouthands or millions of years, is that the idea behind the project? what about quantic processing that is actually working, i think that 's why this should be unfeasible at least for the moment,...

Yes, we are trying to find "for any of the ~9 mio BTC addresses with unspent outputs one of the other 296-1 private keys that should exist.
https://lbc.cryptoguru.org/stats shows the probability to find something within the next 24 hours.
https://lbc.cryptoguru.org/trophies shows what we have found so far

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more processing capabilities needed.

Yes. https://lbc.cryptoguru.org/download  Wink


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Sweet:


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Did some benchmarking and my M2000M Quadro - a midrange notebook GPU - does 60M of my BTC-optimized hash160 code + bloom-check per second. That's enough horsepower to check 30 Mkeys (uncompressed + compressed) per second.
So how do I get from my current 7 Mkeys/s to 30 Mkeys/s?

I'd like to pursue some of the ideas arulbero threw in on ECC pubkey generation, but after having looked at his code and also at things like "supervanitygen" (which is now officially less than half the speed of LBC), It's pretty clear I will have to come up with something on my own.
And also that I will have to move ECC to the GPU.

Rico

Cpu + GMP library: on your pc you could get 16,7M / 4s or 16,7/ 2s with complement or 16M / 1s with endomorphism.
My function "double_add" now takes 6s on my cpu (on your pc I guess it takes less than 3s), then 4s is a reasonable estimate. If the goal is 15Mkeys/s, CPU + GMP library are enough, otherwise you have to implement an efficient representation of field's elements (like secp256k1 library does) and/or use GPU.

About GPU and multiprecision library:
https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/d807/b453c7f10bc547971a9344e81a88af934ad0.pdf
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In this paper, we present our design and implementation of a multiple-precision integer library for GPUs which is implemented by CUDA. We report our experimental results which show that a significant speedup can be achieved by GPUs as compared with the GNU MP library on CPUs
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Is this just a regular pooled brute force attack? If it is I don't see how it really adds anything to Bitcoin's development or tells us something we don't already know, unless it's trying to use some new novel method of finding collisions: in which case it is less of an attack on Bitcoin, and more of an attack on SHA256 in an attempt to prove it obsolete.

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Is this just a regular pooled brute force attack? If it is I don't see how it really adds anything to Bitcoin's development or tells us something we don't already know, unless it's trying to use some new novel method of finding collisions: in which case it is less of an attack on Bitcoin, and more of an attack on SHA256 in an attempt to prove it obsolete.

Please define "regular"  and "us"

Also, would you care to lay out "what we already know"

and finally why you think this is an attack on SHA256.

If you don't know what it adds to BTC development, you probably haven't read anything of the thread in which case it's hard to discuss the matter.

Fun fact: BTC mining is a regular pooled brute force attack.


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Also fun fact:

Time since inception: 6 months
Number of keys generated: 250 trillion
Number of unspents found: 2 (genuine, no bounties etc.)
Total collisions confirmed:   0
Current generation speed:  23.71 Mkeys/s (*)

Time since 250 tn: 38 days.

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Someone should buy that new 1800x Ryzen chip and run LBC with it...

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Someone should buy that new 1800x Ryzen chip and run LBC with it...

Better idea:

http://www.networkworld.com/article/3173995/cloud-computing/google-cloud-debuts-intel-s-latest-skylake-processors.html

We are talking Skylake-EX CPUs here. That's the nifty Skylake cores plus AVX512 engine.

A dedicated AVX512 ECC code could smash everything I know, because your 256bit field arithmetics are suddenly a single machine operation each.

If they pair these CPUs with some GPUs, I may be tempted to try.



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February 25, 2017, 10:51:01 PM
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Is this just a regular pooled brute force attack? If it is I don't see how it really adds anything to Bitcoin's development or tells us something we don't already know, unless it's trying to use some new novel method of finding collisions: in which case it is less of an attack on Bitcoin, and more of an attack on SHA256 in an attempt to prove it obsolete.

Please define "regular"  and "us"

Also, would you care to lay out "what we already know"

and finally why you think this is an attack on SHA256.

If you don't know what it adds to BTC development, you probably haven't read anything of the thread in which case it's hard to discuss the matter.

Fun fact: BTC mining is a regular pooled brute force attack.


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You might have misinterpreted what I said, the phrase "attack" was in no way supposed to be an attack on your project, I actually think a successful attack on Bitcoin/SHA256 would be very important and noble of the person showing it in proving that the protocol is no longer effective.

However the project is literally an attempt to find collisions, no? Does it prove a point, and if it does, is it any different to, say, finding a collision in SHA256 using a birthday attack?

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