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August 13, 2016, 12:24:23 PM
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I probably won't go through with it, however,
I still consider Betcoin a company none should advertise.

So is that the final word??


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August 16, 2016, 09:06:46 AM
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Calling them a "scam" is unfair.
Why is calling the truth unfair? Because it will hurt yours and theirs business?

I explained here perfectly why Betcoin is a publicly proven scam: They do not state the name of the operator, there are no juridical valid Terms of Service, but heeeeey, they are governed in Hong Kong, Curacao and Costa Rica! LMAO

Everyone who is not able to follow or believe my explanation can consult a lawyer. Until today, no one of the Betcoin promoter team was able to disprove my statement. And this would be doubtless the first thing they would have done, if my explanation is wrong.


They've never mismanagement any type of player cashout or funds in the past.
LOL, they mismanaged Jasonort's Jackpot cashout! But never mind, it was only 500 Bitcoins!


They have been a bit unorganized and lacked staff which was why the animosity grew between some players and management.
There are "only" several scam accusations, but never mind:

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They knowingly allow cheaters to play.

They knowingly overcharged players for months and then lied about it.

They knowingly collected over 16 btc for a badbeat jackpot from players who had 0% chance to win it.  (this was prior to Aug 2nd 2015)

They advertise a daily double jackpot now that's impossible to win (they removed the second tournament, and left the promotion up)

They just posted fake skype conversations of me confessing to ddos their site, but don't "have time" to respond to legitimate issues brought up by players.


Scam sites in the gaming world cannot get the connections they have: WPN Tournaments and software, Sports provider, and several casino providers.
Betcoin proves perfectly that scam sites in the gaming world can get such connections!

I have so far no idea what the status of Betcoin in regards to WPN is (as WPN did not respond), but they are definetely not a partner like the other skins.

Betcoin must have some kind of a special status, as they are allowed to offer up to 140% Rakeback, while WPN partners are only allowed to offer the 27% flat or VIP rewards.   

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August 16, 2016, 09:57:27 AM
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From what I read and found myself searching around betcoin.ag they are in deep trouble due to the way their software supplier did not honor a jackpot. They handled the situation, but rather poorly. There are also plenty other unresolved issues. Thus I think a warning was needed. I personally would not advertise for them and get out of a contract ASAP. Other people will come to their own conclusions and it can be different from my own. I will not add negative rating to participants for advertising the casino, but it will probably have a lasting impression on me. Not that I believe many care about that.
Where specifically is it stated that BetSoft has to honor the Jackpot?


This guy, game-protect has put a negative feedback on all the signature campaign participants while low-key promoting his own website. See his sent feedback here.
Yes. Promoting a publicly proven scam for its own financial benefit is a criminal offense and I feel the obligation to warn existing and potential customers about that behaviour. Wink


The reference goes to his scammy website. Funny because after all these battles in the said scam accusation, we'll get a negative trust from a scammer. Grin
Why and how is Game Protect scammy?

Who did Game Protect scam and how much is the damage?   

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