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August 09, 2016, 05:49:59 PM
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I don't know how the pump is being orchestrated, but as a speculator I would be away at the time, given the current downtrend.
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August 09, 2016, 05:52:22 PM
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Ah yea Tsu!

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August 09, 2016, 05:57:47 PM
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I don't know how the pump is being orchestrated, but as a speculator I would be away at the time, given the current downtrend.


+1.

But as a spectator, I'm making popcorn!  Cheesy

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August 09, 2016, 06:08:20 PM
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I always thought why in the hell would steemit which is a cool looking website and whatever, would need a token and not just use bitcoin... when people use tokens for their projects instead of bitcoin i start doubting.
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August 09, 2016, 06:09:44 PM
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I always thought why in the hell would steemit which is a cool looking website and whatever, would need a token and not just use bitcoin... when people use tokens for their projects instead of bitcoin i start doubting.

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August 09, 2016, 06:12:22 PM
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I always thought why in the hell would steemit which is a cool looking website and whatever, would need a token and not just use bitcoin... when people use tokens for their projects instead of bitcoin i start doubting.

Then you understand nothing about how Steem solved the onboarding problem.
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August 09, 2016, 06:24:12 PM
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p.s. FYIW, Jeff Berwick brags about his IQ also. lolz.

And you bragged about being smarter than most people in your radio broadcast where you mentioned the reason why you stopped following Bitshares because you felt it got too complex and if you couldn't understand then most people wouldn't be able to.

Contradict yourself all the time?
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August 09, 2016, 06:29:43 PM
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There was another social network that paid users to use it, I cant remember what its called though. It didnt last long.

Tsu.

And of course there's Futurenet  Shocked

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August 09, 2016, 06:35:23 PM
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There was another social network that paid users to use it, I cant remember what its called though. It didnt last long.

Tsu.

And of course there's Futurenet  Shocked

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Amway
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amway
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August 09, 2016, 07:00:03 PM
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Something Fishy about Steemit and Steem?

The OP nailed it:

Quote from: female user on Steem
Personally, I think the biggest turnoff is the ocean speak. People can probably get over the url, but the ever so popular whale, orca, dolphin, minnow, phytoplankton distinction is too much.
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August 09, 2016, 07:46:27 PM
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Here's Jeff taking a STEAMIT all over himself on radio for 90 minutes yesterday:
https://www.freetalklive.com/podcast/2016-08-08

Jeff makes a very astute point at the 32 minute mark, where he reminds me that some allege that Facebook messes with their following and reach, so they build up their followers and then are at the mercy of the whims of Facebook.

Whereas, with a blockchain this will not be the case.

That is a major selling point to make to bloggers that forever they will be in control of their investment into their following.
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August 09, 2016, 08:02:08 PM
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Here's Jeff taking a STEAMIT all over himself on radio for 90 minutes yesterday:
https://www.freetalklive.com/podcast/2016-08-08

Jeff makes a very astute point at the 32 minute mark, where he reminds me that some allege that Facebook messes with their following and reach, so they build up their followers and then are at the mercy of the whims of Facebook.

Whereas, with a blockchain this will not be the case.

That is a major selling

the/e point to make

 to bloggers that forever they will be in control of their investment into their following.

thee/e for uh of whence

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August 09, 2016, 11:22:02 PM
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Am I the only one to notice that STEEMIT, as a word, attempts to not only steal thunder from the Steam platform for games, but mainly REDDIT? The Reddit part just hit me. Damn I'm slow sometimes. Am I the last person to "get" this?

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August 09, 2016, 11:25:34 PM
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Here's Jeff taking a STEAMIT all over himself on radio for 90 minutes yesterday:
https://www.freetalklive.com/podcast/2016-08-08

Jeff makes a very astute point at the 32 minute mark, where he reminds me that some allege that Facebook messes with their following and reach, so they build up their followers and then are at the mercy of the whims of Facebook.

Whereas, with a blockchain this will not be the case.

That is a major selling

the/e point to make

 to bloggers that forever they will be in control of their investment into their following.

thee/e for uh of whence

(yes, ep0

They're allowing anything now, but give it a while and I'll bet they censor posts damning Steem, Bitshares and Dan Larimer.

I am starting to think that IAMNOTBLACK is a paid shill for Steem. He's a fairly new account, mainly active on two threads (both pro-STEEM), and he's defending Steem HARD on both.

Probably Larimer.

I also think a lot of people have him on ignore.



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August 10, 2016, 12:05:28 AM
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Jeff Berwick always gave me the classic "internet marketer" vibe, that's all. He has no deeper technical knowledge about anything, he just parrots whatever the smarter engineers are saying.

So true.

Yesterday on the radio he said the Steem white paper is "possibly genius." lolz.





The Larimers are scum of the earth and always associate with their peers who are trash.  Not too long ago, they were welcoming with open arms the drug dealing, porno peddling, pigeon racing, internet "get rich quick" guru Mark Lyford.  Birds of a feather.

Am I the only one to notice that STEEMIT, as a word, attempts to not only steal thunder from the Steam platform for games, but mainly REDDIT? The Reddit part just hit me. Damn I'm slow sometimes. Am I the last person to "get" this?

I'm sure that it's also a "pure coincidence" that they chose a name starting with an "S" and by no means are meaning to have people confuse "Steem" with "Synereo".  Synereo was started way before Steem and is actually developing a legitimate DECENTRALIZED social networking platform and tech stack.  Those who are familiar with how the Larimers operate know that they steal ideas from others and shoddily implement them to make a quick buck off the uninformed.

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August 10, 2016, 12:12:42 AM
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My friend JP just sent me this.


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August 10, 2016, 12:25:28 AM
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"Steemit: where people who swear by the free market now expect to get free money for their crappy writing." - Michael Jon Barker

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August 10, 2016, 01:21:28 AM
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I am starting to thing that IAMNOTBLACK is a paid shill for Steem.

I see you have dementia from all that heroin you admitted to doing (heard it on your radio broadcast).

Of course the caveat problem is Steem being DPoS (delegated-proof-of-stake) with 19 witnesses (delegates) and most of the stake controlled by a few guys. And Steem's license prevents forking, so if someone brings a legal action that forces Dan and Ned to censor the blockchain, then we the ecosystem are maybe fucked. So this ideal may not be strictly true for Steem.



I'm sure that it's also a "pure coincidence" that they chose a name starting with an "S" and by no means are meaning to have people confuse "Steem" with "Synereo".  Synereo was started way before Steem and is actually developing a legitimate DECENTRALIZED social networking platform and tech stack.  Those who are familiar with how the Larimers operate know that they steal ideas from others and shoddily implement them to make a quick buck off the uninformed.

Hmm. At least they didn't name it Scenario, Cheerios, FruitLoops, or SatoshiCrunch. The porn or locomotive connotation seems to insure people won't confuse it with Synergistic.

Any other examples of them ripping off other ideas?
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August 10, 2016, 05:36:11 AM
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I'm sure that it's also a "pure coincidence" that they chose a name starting with an "S" and by no means are meaning to have people confuse "Steem" with "Synereo".  Synereo was started way before Steem and is actually developing a legitimate DECENTRALIZED social networking platform and tech stack.  Those who are familiar with how the Larimers operate know that they steal ideas from others and shoddily implement them to make a quick buck off the uninformed.

Hmm. At least they didn't name it Scenario, Cheerios, FruitLoops, or SatoshiCrunch. The porn or locomotive connotation seems to insure people won't confuse it with Synergistic.

Any other examples of them ripping off other ideas?

Anybody who was around during 2013 knows that Bitshares' DPoS algo was a blatant ripoff and perversion of NXT's PoS algo.  I was one of the very first people mining PTS, and BTS was originally going to be pure PoW.  Once the Larimers heard of NXT's revolutionary PoS algo, they copied it and changed it into Delegated PoS, which ensured that they could rig the elections via strategic voting to keep it under their control.

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August 10, 2016, 10:36:47 AM
Last edit: August 10, 2016, 10:55:22 AM by Macno
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Hi, just a few thoughts. I was given the link to this thread by a steemit user, because I had told him how mad I was and that I was about to go to the German authorities and the press, if I was presented with solid evidence of a scam or fraudulent behavior.
There was simply too much chatter of "centralized power", "scam", "dan`s big ego", "steem dumping", "bitshare buddies bailout", "envy" and bad behavior even among whales" etc etc etc., so it got me worried, because I had actually turned into a "True Believer".

Normal crypto-projects are B2B projects for me, so buyer beware rules, but I`m actually so exited about Steemit because this time "we crypto people", invite the moms and pops and little guys and poor africans etc into crypto and with end-users and non-crypto-experts, my line for fraud is pretty fat red and rather easy to step on. You don`t even have to cross it.
I also like Jeff Berwick and got to know him a little at Anarchapulco. He might not have a flawless character (not that I noticed anything unusual), but I think he`s honest.
I also like Synereo and hold some AMPs since ICO.
I am also a Dashtard and @smooth and @iamnotback and some other Monero guys with their SJW-like ultraorthodoxy have been getting on my nerves quite a few times here, since more than two years now.

But I love seeing them here now, because if they are so dead serious about Satoshis principles, I hope they would not fall for a crypto-scam that hurts little guys (as opposed to some bct troll freak, whom I don`t give a shit about).

@iamnotback:

Are you Anonymous or can one find your name if one wants? Same question for Smooth.

I`m asking because I am not anonymous and you can find my name if you want.
I`m also to be found on Steemit: https://steemit.com/@fabio
I`m a finance guy and after being in crypto since 2011, I`m growing tired of the old "oh, I hide my identity because I`m such an idealist" mantra, as in my experience, 95% of the time it`s just a lame excuse for being a coward at best and some criminal at worst.

But I don`t think this applies to smooth and you, iamnotback, it only makes it harder for me to trust you guys.
I don`t know shit about coding and I am not as smart as anyone here in the thread, but I`m an idealist and I`m going to raise hell, if it turns out that people I bring into steemit are being treated like stupid german money one more time by some US salespeople.
(I advise any Noob to not put a single Dime into it, what I do is another story).

So that being said, thanks for the thread, because it actually make me a little bit more condifent again, because nothing MWD64 has presented so far contains a single shred of evidence regarding Steemit (I don`t give a fuck about that Chile thing and yes, entrepreneurs are well allowed to fail). No offense MWD64, I really appreciate what seems to be good intentions, but you`ll have to put up some more facts.

PS: Harcore voluntarist here. You have no idea how much you have to piss me of if I ever threaten with calling the Gov for help.
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