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August 14, 2016, 07:53:19 AM |
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Tyrantt
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August 14, 2016, 08:07:07 AM |
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That question exists long before you, it's somewhat the same as "what was before the big bang". We don't know if any gods exists for the start, so i dont like that question that much but its funny to hear people strugle to explain that nothing created cods, they were there since the beginning of time, etc...
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August 14, 2016, 11:49:04 AM |
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according to my religion, Islam, there are things we can get by our logic, our brain. one of them is this question. if you keep asking who created this, this, and this, the question will be never end. so this is the answer of your question by Islam : Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “People will keep on asking questions until someone will say, ‘Allaah created the universe, but who created Allaah?’ Whoever encounters anything like that, let him say, ‘Amantu Billaah (I believe in Allaah).’”
The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The Shaytaan will come to one of you and say, ‘Who created the heaven? Who created the earth?’ He will say, ‘Allaah’” – then he mentioned something similar (to the previous report), and added, “And His Messengers.” [i.e., amantu Billaah wa Rusulihi = I believe in Allaah and His Messengers]
The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The Shaytaan will come to one of you and say, ‘Who created such and such?’ until he says to him, ‘Who created your Lord?’ When it reaches that stage, let him seek refuge with Allaah [say A’oodhu Billaahi min ash-shaytaan ir-rajeem = I seek refuge with Allaah from the accursed Shaytaan] and stop thinking about it.”
The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The Shaytaan will come to a person and say, ‘Who created such and such…’” and he narrated the whole report. (Imaam Muslim, 134).
He (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “O Allaah, You are the First and there is nothing before You; O Allaah, You are the Last and there is nothing after You.” (Narrated by Muslim, 2713)
He (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Allaah existed when there was nothing apart from Him.” According to another report: “There was nothing before Him.” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari; the first report 3020; the second report 6982).
So muslims are not interested in philosophical arguments on the creation of Allah, rather they see these questions as the tricks and deceptions of the shaytaan. Muslims belief that Allah created mankind and installed in their inherent nature (fitrah) his belief as is mentioned in Quran: So set you (O Muhammad SAW) your face towards the religion of pure Islâmic Monotheism Hanifa (worship none but Allâh Alone) Allâh's Fitrah (i.e. Allâh's Islâmic Monotheism), with which He has created mankind . No change let there be in Khalqillâh (i.e. the Religion of Allâh Islâmic Monotheism), that is the straight religion, but most of men know not. [Tafsir AtTabarî, Vol 21, Page 41] (Ar-Rum 30:30)
it's kind of test, we choose to believe in Qur'an (Allah, the creator, said) and Prophet Muhammad (the most hinest and perfect man ever) or believe in our logil that isn't perfect.
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August 14, 2016, 12:22:48 PM |
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God always exited, exists now, and always will exist. God has no creator. God is extremely great. He is way beyond this universe, but we know only things of this universe. We understand Him only a little. If there was some way that God came to be God, it did not happen in any way we could begin to understand. The question of where God came from is meaningless to us because of our lack of knowledge and understanding of things outside of our universe. Of course, we are only finding out a little about our universe. We are so extremely weak mentally. If we knew everything about our universe, then maybe we could start to think about whatever is outside of it.
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jacee
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August 14, 2016, 01:52:49 PM |
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Humans themselves created the idea of a God.
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poptok1
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August 14, 2016, 01:58:51 PM |
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Who created god? Probably someone without the knowledge of definition what the Occam's razor is. Or maybe someone that was lust for power and control over his fellow tribesman. (?) One thing is certain it was humans that invented celestial super beings, without us there's no them. Fortunately thanks to history and science we can roughly say when that was and where. If you care enough, you will found an answer yourself.
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August 14, 2016, 02:12:47 PM |
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"If" you said, It is just the same old running false narrative that people have stuck in the head, cannot help those who refuse to wake up themselves. It's just a big con job to keep you dumbed down and submissive, would be better if you had a free mind, to think and do as you please, within the natural traits that humans have, but some have genetics that are faulty, this will pass in time I hope, then all shall be free at sometime.
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And its gone.
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Moloch
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August 14, 2016, 06:28:06 PM |
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Gods were created by people to explain nature... before science was invented...
Thunder & Lightning, Earthquakes, Tornadoes & Hurricanes, Floods, Drought, Volcanoes, Solar/Lunar Eclipse, Diseases & Pestilence, Locusts, etc, etc, etc...
We still refer to these today as, "acts of God" (though we know better)
God was created to "fill the gaps of knowledge"... anything unknown was the work of a god...
To me, "God" == "Fuck if I know"
"God did it" = "Fuck if I know who did it"
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BADecker
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August 14, 2016, 08:26:17 PM |
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Gods were created by people to explain nature... before science was invented...
Thunder & Lightning, Earthquakes, Tornadoes & Hurricanes, Floods, Drought, Volcanoes, Solar/Lunar Eclipse, Diseases & Pestilence, Locusts, etc, etc, etc...
We still refer to these today as, "acts of God" (though we know better)
God was created to "fill the gaps of knowledge"... anything unknown was the work of a god...
To me, "God" == "Fuck if I know"
"God did it" = "Fuck if I know who did it"
And then, after science was invented, God was explained by that science to be the One Who created the universe. You keep ignoring the scientific proof that a universe like ours that has cause and effect, has the complexity that ours has which is breaking down because of entropy, must have had a Creator. If it didn't, these there things could not exist like our universe does. Science proves it.
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hpunsara (OP)
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August 15, 2016, 01:45:10 AM |
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Gods were created by people to explain nature... before science was invented...
Thunder & Lightning, Earthquakes, Tornadoes & Hurricanes, Floods, Drought, Volcanoes, Solar/Lunar Eclipse, Diseases & Pestilence, Locusts, etc, etc, etc...
We still refer to these today as, "acts of God" (though we know better)
God was created to "fill the gaps of knowledge"... anything unknown was the work of a god...
To me, "God" == "Fuck if I know"
"God did it" = "Fuck if I know who did it"
And then, after science was invented, God was explained by that science to be the One Who created the universe. You keep ignoring the scientific proof that a universe like ours that has cause and effect, has the complexity that ours has which is breaking down because of entropy, must have had a Creator. If it didn't, these there things could not exist like our universe does. Science proves it. But who created the creater
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Xenophoto
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August 15, 2016, 01:56:15 AM |
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Some people say that only us, the humans, have created God. There are tons of things in the past that we cannot understand so people have used the word God directly to explain those stuffs. For example, lightning, fire, rain, etc. all those stuffs that people cannot understand yet was said was made by God. But now that we can explain all those stuffs and it's been really confusing.
Some people say that God is the borderline for the morality of humans. If you take a look at the bible, everything that God does is good. Most of them at least. People are trying to use God's ways as an example for a better living.
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August 15, 2016, 02:10:38 AM |
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God created himself. is that hard to believe? Maybe not. Some god to drink some drug juices extracted from mexican cactus to become god, Nubians themselves says and according to history perform some sun dance to transcend and become God.
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BADecker
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August 15, 2016, 04:38:41 AM |
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Gods were created by people to explain nature... before science was invented...
Thunder & Lightning, Earthquakes, Tornadoes & Hurricanes, Floods, Drought, Volcanoes, Solar/Lunar Eclipse, Diseases & Pestilence, Locusts, etc, etc, etc...
We still refer to these today as, "acts of God" (though we know better)
God was created to "fill the gaps of knowledge"... anything unknown was the work of a god...
To me, "God" == "Fuck if I know"
"God did it" = "Fuck if I know who did it"
And then, after science was invented, God was explained by that science to be the One Who created the universe. You keep ignoring the scientific proof that a universe like ours that has cause and effect, has the complexity that ours has which is breaking down because of entropy, must have had a Creator. If it didn't, these there things could not exist like our universe does. Science proves it. But who created the creater The Creator always was, is right now, and always will be. The Creator wasn't created.
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BADecker
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August 15, 2016, 04:42:35 AM |
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God created himself. is that hard to believe? Maybe not. Some god to drink some drug juices extracted from mexican cactus to become god, Nubians themselves says and according to history perform some sun dance to transcend and become God. God is so extremely much greater than we are, that if there was something that did a thing like creating Him, we couldn't understand it as creating. We wouldn't be able to understand it at all. The closest we can come is to say that God always was, is now, and always will be.
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August 15, 2016, 08:32:34 AM |
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Man secretly aspire to be all-powerful. 'God' is a constant created by man to balance the equation of his existence. Man behaves like 'God' on earth but because he doesn't have an answer to everything, he lives in fear of a being somewhere in the immensity of it all that would be bigger than him. Living like a 'God' on earth means that man often does battle with his conscience and regularly needs to be reassured that his ways are righteous. This is achieved by inventing a being that would be the strongest of all and then fantasizing that such a being would protect and favor him over everything else.
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Berns
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August 15, 2016, 10:30:39 AM |
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Man secretly aspire to be all-powerful. 'God' is a constant created by man to balance the equation of his existence. Man behaves like 'God' on earth but because he doesn't have an answer to everything, he lives in fear of a being somewhere in the immensity of it all that would be bigger than him. Living like a 'God' on earth means that man often does battle with his conscience and regularly needs to be reassured that his ways are righteous. This is achieved by inventing a being that would be the strongest of all and then fantasizing that such a being would protect and favor him over everything else.
I think you said is complete nonsense. God does not matter what one thinks about it. God has done his job and now, quietly watching from the sidelines. As someone who makes the zoo and watch the animals.
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Berns
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August 15, 2016, 10:38:49 AM |
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Man secretly aspire to be all-powerful. 'God' is a constant created by man to balance the equation of his existence. Man behaves like 'God' on earth but because he doesn't have an answer to everything, he lives in fear of a being somewhere in the immensity of it all that would be bigger than him. Living like a 'God' on earth means that man often does battle with his conscience and regularly needs to be reassured that his ways are righteous. This is achieved by inventing a being that would be the strongest of all and then fantasizing that such a being would protect and favor him over everything else.
I am interested in another matter. You are always so interesting ?! To start, find out who created you. And only then, to climb into the jungle. Actually God has always been. He who does not create. As strange as it may sound.
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apollofire
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August 15, 2016, 01:28:40 PM |
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He is the creator of the universe. He is everywhere..
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Racey
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August 15, 2016, 03:18:24 PM |
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He is the creator of the universe. He is everywhere..
Sounds like George Soros, the manipulator of nations and people.
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And its gone.
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Hoffman
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August 15, 2016, 06:58:16 PM |
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the universe always has and always will. infinity has no ends. we are all gods, creators of our realities, together we are one being, one soul
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