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August 17, 2016, 11:01:26 AM
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we all know forum accounts are sold and bought here frequently and we all have differnt opinions on it.Some of us are in favour of it and some completly oppose it while others have neutral views.
I have a suggestion that might go well with everyone.Disallow selling of account below Sr.Member.This will reduce the number of creating multiple accounts for account farming to aome extent.Whats your thoughts?
Bro this can only increase the spams and farming even more. Higher rank needs more posts and more time. More time to wait for an account to rank up, more time for them to use it in farming.
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August 17, 2016, 07:31:04 PM
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we all know forum accounts are sold and bought here frequently and we all have differnt opinions on it.Some of us are in favour of it and some completly oppose it while others have neutral views.
I have a suggestion that might go well with everyone.Disallow selling of account below Sr.Member.This will reduce the number of creating multiple accounts for account farming to aome extent.Whats your thoughts?
Bro this can only increase the spams and farming even more. Higher rank needs more posts and more time. More time to wait for an account to rank up, more time for them to use it in farming.
Yes, I do agree. It has some more bad effects too. I think if this offer can be done vice versa it may be better. I mean disallow selling accounts higher than Sr. Member. Since Sr. members and higher accounts are more prone to be trusted and do scam.

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August 17, 2016, 07:36:08 PM
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Both account sales (multi accounting included),and campaigns should be straight out forbidden.
While we may be able to enforce a signature campaign ban (at least to a reasonable degree), I don't see how we could enforce a ban on account sales. We could however, make it bannable and thus more risky for the people who engage in these trades (issue a permanent ban for both the seller and buyer).

How? Bitcointalk does not know when an account is sold.
The best that one can do is determine whether it is probable that an account changed hands.

Since Sr. members and higher accounts are more prone to be trusted and do scam.
A common misconception by ignorant users. There is zero reason for one to trust an account by default just based on their rank.

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August 17, 2016, 10:02:43 PM
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We could however, make it bannable and thus more risky for the people who engage in these trades (issue a permanent ban for both the seller and buyer).
Providing that work is done on the quality of posts here, I can't say I would see the need for this to come into place. While account trading is inherently untrustworthy, and should by no means be supported by anyone, providing that an account follows the rules of the forum and has no prior reputation (E.G Positive trust/DT etc) I do not see a problem with it changing hands.
In addition, I feel that it may simply be useless work for Staff members; if the seller has any sense he will sell the account using an anonymous Newbie account. Banning this will do nothing but waste the time of Staff.

A common misconception by ignorant users. There is zero reason for one to trust an account by default just based on their rank.
The fact that this misconception exists however shows that it is a problem, regardless of the stupidity of it.
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August 17, 2016, 10:44:37 PM
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A common misconception by ignorant users. There is zero reason for one to trust an account by default just based on their rank.
Yes and unfortunately members with positive feedback and specially the old members can do more scams if they want to. At least selling some accounts must be restricted or publicly announced. I do not know why this rule does not modified.

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August 18, 2016, 04:10:09 PM
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A common misconception by ignorant users. There is zero reason for one to trust an account by default just based on their rank.


It's not really a misconception. From experience, I see that those of higher ranks write more constructive posts than lower ranking members.

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August 19, 2016, 08:55:32 AM
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U're totally right. This "traffic" is useful to no one.

If it is not good,why are campaign owners spending their precious coins on it? I learnt one of the campaign has been running continuously since 2 years and has spent over 300 btc till now.Are the fool to spend such a huge amount for nothing?
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August 19, 2016, 01:51:19 PM
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A common misconception by ignorant users. There is zero reason for one to trust an account by default just based on their rank.


It's not really a misconception. From experience, I see that those of higher ranks write more constructive posts than lower ranking members.
Constructive posts are not te basis if someone can be trusted or not neither.
High ranks or not, this forum is flooded with spammers.
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August 19, 2016, 11:02:18 PM
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Providing that work is done on the quality of posts here, I can't say I would see the need for this to come into place.
I don't see the need for it either, but I wouldn't mind going either ways at this point. There aren't that many 'real reasons' for which one would need to engage in account sales.

In addition, I feel that it may simply be useless work for Staff members; if the seller has any sense he will sell the account using an anonymous Newbie account. Banning this will do nothing but waste the time of Staff.
Indeed. It may end up being a lot more work than its worth it. In any case, I don't see the forum policy shifting towards that direction.

Yes and unfortunately members with positive feedback and specially the old members can do more scams if they want to.
We can't educate everyone on how to avoid scams on time.

At least selling some accounts must be restricted or publicly announced. I do not know why this rule does not modified.
I'd say because it is near impossible to enforce properly and may not do that much good either.

From experience, I see that those of higher ranks write more constructive posts than lower ranking members.
That's not a general thumb rule. I've seen users of high ranks write posts of very poor quality.

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August 20, 2016, 05:49:06 PM
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Why not ban signature campaign so that people like you stop creating nonsense and redundant threads.
That would be a very poor financial move for the forum. Signature campaigns increase traffic to the website, and in turn, the number of impressions that are seen by ads. Removing campaigns would result in a drop in traffic as well as a drop in ad revenue for the forum.

That's not completely true. If you improve the quality of the posts, and of the active members, then the advertising becomes more valuable. Constantly advertising gambling sites, ponzi schemes, and other low end concepts, not only debases Bitcoin, but it also reflects badly on the forum.

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Why not ban signature campaign so that people like you stop creating nonsense and redundant threads.
That would be a very poor financial move for the forum. Signature campaigns increase traffic to the website, and in turn, the number of impressions that are seen by ads. Removing campaigns would result in a drop in traffic as well as a drop in ad revenue for the forum.

That's not completely true. If you improve the quality of the posts, and of the active members, then the advertising becomes more valuable. Constantly advertising gambling sites, ponzi schemes, and other low end concepts, not only debases Bitcoin, but it also reflects badly on the forum.

I'm sure there is a balance to be met there. I think it's fair to say that signature campaigns do generate a good deal of traffic. The forum also has an interest in not appearing to be overrun by spammers.

To the OP's idea, I'm guessing buyers/sellers would just take matters to PM. Everyone has got a price. Undecided
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Constantly advertising gambling sites, ponzi schemes, and other low end concepts, not only debases Bitcoin, but it also reflects badly on the forum.
That's true as well, but those sorts of sites (and the odd exchange as well) seem to be the only websites that can afford to spend thousands of dollars advertising on their website or service. If the forum wanted to show ads from interesting bitcoin startups with a lack of cash, they could consider opening a few more ad slots for auction, as that would drive down the price per slot, making it more affordable for startups. However, that's a completely different topic from this, so I'll just stop it there to prevent this thread from getting derailed.

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