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"There should not be any signed int. If you've found a signed int
somewhere, please tell me (within the next 25 years please) and I'll
change it to unsigned int." -- Satoshi
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Xian01
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March 30, 2013, 10:52:10 AM |
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Could you screen shot that? I'm not going to expose my computer to that site. |
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Pharaoh
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Is there a written statement that explains what the criteria is for being given the scammer tag? BFL was clearly lying in September/October when they were telling the community shipping dates and they didn't even have a finalized design, let alone a working prototype. I believe BFL should get a scammer tag because they took peoples money while they lied about shipping dates they knew they had no chance of meeting. If/when they actually ship an ASIC product then they can have the scammer tag removed.
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JordanL
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April 01, 2013, 05:39:02 AM |
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I don't really follow this stuff, but I've been hearing a lot of positive news about BFL recently, so I tend to think that it's probably not a scam. I'll reevaluate this if they haven't produced anything concrete by their current deadline.
While I might refuse their advertising, giving them a scammer tag is more complicated. I'm not sure what obligations and deadlines preordering implies. They'd probably have to stop all contact for several months for me to give them a scammer tag. I recommend against preordering anything from anyone in the Bitcoin community.
This is a reasonable policy, for what my opinion's worth. I don't have much faith in BFL, but until there is evidence of criminal wrongdoing, a scammer tag is premature. |
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April 01, 2013, 07:02:00 AM |
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For Luke to get that unit, they would have had to ship it out last week. |
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Syke
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April 01, 2013, 08:56:58 AM |
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I don't really follow this stuff, but I've been hearing a lot of positive news about BFL recently, so I tend to think that it's probably not a scam. I'll reevaluate this if they haven't produced anything concrete by their current deadline.
https://products.butterflylabs.com/featured-products/60gh-bitcoin-miner.htmlinitial shipping scheduled for the last half of March 2013.
I expect to not see a single more BFL ad as of 4/1. Times up, theymos. Ban BFL ads and tag BFL/Inaba with scammer tags. They've missed far too many "deadlines". |
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Rawted
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April 01, 2013, 10:13:46 AM |
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For Luke to get that unit, they would have had to ship it out last week. He's at their factory working on bfgminer. If you notice his screenshots are in the exact same place as the video of the bfl's 'hashing' the other day. |
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Syke
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April 02, 2013, 06:49:35 PM |
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I don't really follow this stuff, but I've been hearing a lot of positive news about BFL recently, so I tend to think that it's probably not a scam. I'll reevaluate this if they haven't produced anything concrete by their current deadline.
While I might refuse their advertising, giving them a scammer tag is more complicated. I'm not sure what obligations and deadlines preordering implies. They'd probably have to stop all contact for several months for me to give them a scammer tag. I recommend against preordering anything from anyone in the Bitcoin community.
Theymos, when are you tagging BFL/Inaba with scammer tags? They are still advertising a shipping date that has passed, for like the 6th time. Enough is enough. https://products.butterflylabs.com/featured-products/60gh-bitcoin-miner.htmlinitial shipping scheduled for the last half of March 2013.
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MrTeal
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April 02, 2013, 10:16:54 PM |
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You have it mixed up. At the beginning, BFL required transactions be done in BTC. Therefore someone who bought using bitcoin because that is what they insisted upon should be given a refund in BTC.
Later orders where Bitcoin was an option alongside US$ are a different matter, I agree.
That's not exactly true. From the start you could pay with BTC, or with a bank wire to their US bank. |
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Syke
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April 03, 2013, 03:59:01 AM |
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BFL ad on bitcointalk.org 1,500 GH/s ASIC miner - BFL MiniRig SC - $29k - butterflylabs.com
Actual price on BFL website: $29,899.00
$29,899 is not $29k. More BFL deception. Stop the ads Theymos. |
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JordanL
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April 03, 2013, 04:33:02 AM |
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BFL ad on bitcointalk.org 1,500 GH/s ASIC miner - BFL MiniRig SC - $29k - butterflylabs.com
Actual price on BFL website: $29,899.00
$29,899 is not $29k. More BFL deception. Stop the ads Theymos. haha, just when I thought it couldn't get any worse. |
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