Newbie restrictions

[hgmichna]

4 hours waiting online and 5 posts is not something difficult to achieve.

It is something that somebody who has a life will not want to achieve. The filter is selecting for kids and people who have nothing better to do. It may also be selecting for spammers, because they have no problem to fulfill the requirement.

I perceive it as stupid and counterproductive. It is also unnecessary, as there are better ways to achieve the same thing.

But, tell you what, this posting will not achieve anything. The signs of the time are self-overestimation, righteousness, hunger for power (no matter how insignificant), and an incredible amount of stupidity. I did not mention greed, because it has no bearing here.

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[hgmichna]

After "thinking" I was in the know with the scene by dealing with Bruce W, I got bent over and pounded by his scammy tactics this last week.  I thought joining a forum of the likes of this would keep me from making such stupid mistakes in the future.  I know the BTC area is still in the grey arena, and highly considered as rolling the dice.....I figure with enough info under my belt after some time here I'll be able to disambiguate the scams from the legit and learn more about this form or e-currency.

Very simple. Stay away from schemes that promise you interest rates given weekly or monthly, because they are always scams. Legitimate businesses quote their interest rates annually. And learn to calculate compound interest, if you missed that in school. Read up on exponential growth.

However, an annual interest quote is no guarantee for legitimacy. Bernie Madoff quoted properly, but still ran a Ponzi scheme of a size that boggles the mind, swindling people of a two-digit figure of billions of dollars (not millions, billions).

If somebody asks you to give him your money and promises an annual interest rate of 3,000%, you don't have to be very clever to smell the scam, particularly if the "business" does not tell you anything about how they want to gain that much profit. Still some newbies here fall for such schemes, mainly because they believe they can get rich quick by compounding their interest. Greed appears to switch off certain parts of the brain, particularly the math and the reality check part.

[altid]

4 hours waiting online and 5 posts is not something difficult to achieve.

It is something that somebody who has a life will not want to achieve. The filter is selecting for kids and people who have nothing better to do. It may also be selecting for spammers, because they have no problem to fulfill the requirement.

I perceive it as stupid and counterproductive. It is also unnecessary, as there are better ways to achieve the same thing.

But, tell you what, this posting will not achieve anything. The signs of the time are self-overestimation, righteousness, hunger for power (no matter how insignificant), and an incredible amount of stupidity. I did not mention greed, because it has no bearing here.

I agree - took me a fair while to accumulate the 4 hours

[OneVillain]

Damn these restrictions!  The terrorists win when it's like this!

Seems like the old-fashioned way of asking the mods to delete and ban trolls is the better way to do it. Especially for a topic like Bitcoin where we expect there to constantly be new people interested.

And these requirements don't totally stop the trolls.  In a long-term way maybe it encourages them.  So it might not even be more work for the mods anyways. 

[OneVillain]

Also I can see how sorting out spam might be annoying when you're trying to be careful not to censor. Maybe allowing down-votes (and then the post gets hidden or something, unless you click to see it) is another idea.

And if you want to be really fancy, users who down-vote too often have their votes weighted less over time.

[kubrickonthemoon]

Due to a mass of trolling, only established posters are able to post in non-newbie sections. You are considered "established" if you have spent 4 hours online and have made 5 posts.

If you have really good posts, you can post a request for preemptive whitelisting in the appropriate topic.

Also:
- You must have made one post in order to send PMs.
- You need 10 posts to put a link in your signature.

Note that it may take up to 10 minutes for your PM or posting permissions to be granted.

oof, good to know

[nikiwaibel]

Due to a mass of trolling, only established posters are able to post in non-newbie sections. You are considered "established" if you have spent 4 hours online and have made 5 posts.

If you have really good posts, you can post a request for preemptive whitelisting in the appropriate topic.

Also:
- You must have made one post in order to send PMs.
- You need 10 posts to put a link in your signature.

Note that it may take up to 10 minutes for your PM or posting permissions to be granted.

i don't like this, but i understand and accept.

[BitzMD]

4 hours waiting online and 5 posts is not something difficult to achieve.

It is something that somebody who has a life will not want to achieve. The filter is selecting for kids and people who have nothing better to do. It may also be selecting for spammers, because they have no problem to fulfill the requirement.

I perceive it as stupid and counterproductive. It is also unnecessary, as there are better ways to achieve the same thing.

But, tell you what, this posting will not achieve anything. The signs of the time are self-overestimation, righteousness, hunger for power (no matter how insignificant), and an incredible amount of stupidity. I did not mention greed, because it has no bearing here.

I agree - took me a fair while to accumulate the 4 hours

You may be right in your assumption, yet it seems that many are willing to take that risk on this forum.

[dickcheney]

Due to a mass of trolling, only established posters are able to post in non-newbie sections. You are considered "established" if you have spent 4 hours online and have made 5 posts.

If you have really good posts, you can post a request for preemptive whitelisting in the appropriate topic.

Also:
- You must have made one post in order to send PMs.
- You need 10 posts to put a link in your signature.

Note that it may take up to 10 minutes for your PM or posting permissions to be granted.

Whatever it takes to deter trolls, but does suck for me because im lazy.

[dd.mining]

Due to a mass of trolling, only established posters are able to post in non-newbie sections. You are considered "established" if you have spent 4 hours online and have made 5 posts.

If you have really good posts, you can post a request for preemptive whitelisting in the appropriate topic.

Also:
- You must have made one post in order to send PMs.
- You need 10 posts to put a link in your signature.

Note that it may take up to 10 minutes for your PM or posting permissions to be granted.

It's worth the effort But what are good posts? Will a good joke do the trick?

[vendor]

It took a while, but I am a happy junior member now:) Good luck with your quest guys.

[Uglux]

Also I can see how sorting out spam might be annoying when you're trying to be careful not to censor. Maybe allowing down-votes (and then the post gets hidden or something, unless you click to see it) is another idea.

And if you want to be really fancy, users who down-vote too often have their votes weighted less over time.

I like this idea. *vote up*

[BTC4Victory]

Joined over a year ago and then mostly lurked here, but have been following Bitcoins with great interest and letting a couple of project ideas marinate in the meantime.  Now looking to get out of the penalty box with another couple of posts, so I can discuss them on the non-newbie sections...

...Aaaaand, I had already hit the 4 hour requirement, and this makes post #5, so with this I'm hopefully in...

[Le Happy Merchant]

What amount of posts does it take to add an avatar?

[paxaco]

what is this for? Not fair 

[BitMad]

Could the 'n00bs' have a little more room to post than just this thread please?

I have lots to contribute with........but very little of it fits within the n00b forum. 

[existenz55]

That is a good way to stop spammers and trolls.

[Le Happy Merchant]

That is a good way to stop spammers and trolls.

spammers yes, trolls not really.

[Armchair Miner]

Except now I have to make empty messages of content to get those 5 posts created so i can really post where i want hah...

On the other hand, it took me 2 months to figure out why I can not post...

Law of unintended consequences...

[UNOE]

I still can't find out why I can't post this is the first time I seen a reply button.