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Author Topic: Bitmain Announces the Antminer R4 and APW5 Power Supply, Designed for Silence  (Read 84859 times)
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November 28, 2016, 06:33:57 PM
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I hope for a new release too. There is a market for a silent miner. 

I feel like the real miners don't really care about a bit of noise lol and I say that because if you're really in it to make money you are going to need a lot of miners and a professional operation so noise is not going to be a big concern of yours.  Just my opinion.

The point of the R4 was to build a miner that could be run by the home miner enthusiast. That's it. Let's face it, home miners haven't made a profit for some time. It's just not possible. Still, there is a market here.

I don't understand why being a real miner must = noisy and hot.  They clearly did it with the R4 at just 3 TH/s less than the base S9.  There is a huge market of people that would dip their feet in for something like the R4.  Many that have next to free power could make this profitable from home in 6-7 months.

Because for every 10 home buyers that buy one or two,
there's 100 places buying 500 s9's.
Spondoolie proved it with the sp20, individual customers are a pain in the ass and a loss of money..

Until the R4 is removed from the website we can still have some hope.

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November 28, 2016, 06:40:19 PM
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The issue of profitability is probably why there is a relatively low demand on R4 compared with S9.

I believe bitmain will address this issue in its next release.

I will be watching with baited breath. Noise and cooling have always been an issue in my house.

House isn't good place for profitable mining and even now when difficulty is increased. If you have free electricity, than use R4 additionally at home but if there is possibility of having seperated place for miners than of course s9. Also there is some ways to make s9 less loud and noisy.

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December 01, 2016, 12:25:16 PM
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Got an email from Bitmain. New batch of R4 will be available on the 2nd December 11pm Beijing Time.

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December 01, 2016, 03:22:35 PM
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Got an email from Bitmain. New batch of R4 will be available on the 2nd December 11pm Beijing Time.

Don't tease us!!  Grin

Thanks for the heads up.

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December 01, 2016, 03:37:54 PM
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Oh hell yeah!  Hopefully batch 2 has some tuned up specs!!!

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December 01, 2016, 05:29:42 PM
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Oh hell yeah!  Hopefully batch 2 has some tuned up specs!!!

Im intrigued by the specs. I was going to buy one when they were last on sale as they are "quiet" and im a home miner, but ive bought an S9 instead and underclocked it massively (4Th) plus will be changing the fans etc to get it even quieter than it is now (fans running 20%). But I was always going to underclock the R4 anyway to the same Th as im limited on power usage.

Only thing that put me off was the fact they were only slightly cheaper than the S9 and weren't the same hashing power. So youre paing a big premium for them being quiet.

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December 01, 2016, 05:54:29 PM
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Oh hell yeah!  Hopefully batch 2 has some tuned up specs!!!

Im intrigued by the specs. I was going to buy one when they were last on sale as they are "quiet" and im a home miner, but ive bought an S9 instead and underclocked it massively (4Th) plus will be changing the fans etc to get it even quieter than it is now (fans running 20%). But I was always going to underclock the R4 anyway to the same Th as im limited on power usage.

Only thing that put me off was the fact they were only slightly cheaper than the S9 and weren't the same hashing power. So youre paing a big premium for them being quiet.

Not only quiet but also far less heat output.  I'm fortunate to have next to free electricity but noise/heat were an issue for my S9s so I sent them elsewhere to be hosted.  I love my R4, have another one arriving today and will likely pick up 1-2 more tomorrow.
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December 01, 2016, 06:39:36 PM
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My S9 is not more noisy than an S3 at the moment. Plus heat output is great as it saves on heating at this time of year.

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December 01, 2016, 08:19:50 PM
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My S9 is not more noisy than an S3 at the moment. Plus heat output is great as it saves on heating at this time of year.

You're saying the S9 is about the same noise level as an S3?? Or your under-clocked S9 is similar to S3?

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December 01, 2016, 08:28:38 PM
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My S9 is not more noisy than an S3 at the moment. Plus heat output is great as it saves on heating at this time of year.

You're saying the S9 is about the same noise level as an S3?? Or your under-clocked S9 is similar to S3?

no underclock needed. In lower temp environment autotuned 11th S9 may have fan speeds of 3.8K and 2.2K rpm. That's S3 numbers or even lower.
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December 01, 2016, 08:39:59 PM
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My S9 is not more noisy than an S3 at the moment. Plus heat output is great as it saves on heating at this time of year.

You're saying the S9 is about the same noise level as an S3?? Or your under-clocked S9 is similar to S3?

My underclocked S9 Wink

Its running 4Th in ambient/room temps of 20c. Fans are 1680rpm and 2400rpm (back one is a different fan to front but will be changed to the same as the frpnt fan to get the rpm down). Board temps are 45-47c and chip temps are 75-78c.

Its no nosier than the standard clock S3's I had. Its currently under my desk  Cheesy

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December 02, 2016, 03:13:28 AM
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Is this confirmed or just a troll?

I would be quite excited as I do want to have a R4 for fun at the moment.

Got an email from Bitmain. New batch of R4 will be available on the 2nd December 11pm Beijing Time.

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December 02, 2016, 03:16:52 AM
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Is this confirmed or just a troll?

I would be quite excited as I do want to have a R4 for fun at the moment.

Got an email from Bitmain. New batch of R4 will be available on the 2nd December 11pm Beijing Time.

I also received the same email this morning as I inquired about R4 stock a month ago.  I set my alarm to potentially order a few.
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December 02, 2016, 06:26:33 AM
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Is this confirmed or just a troll?

I would be quite excited as I do want to have a R4 for fun at the moment.

Got an email from Bitmain. New batch of R4 will be available on the 2nd December 11pm Beijing Time.

Yea my comments and trust rating really show that I actively troll on the forum  Roll Eyes

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December 02, 2016, 06:32:18 AM
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Dear Bitcoiners

Yes, its true that we are launching the second batch of the Antminer R4 today.

They will be available here (https://goo.gl/iKAMZc) after 2300 hours (Beijing time, GMT +8) today (2 December 2016).

We advise all to confirm their order while stock lasts.

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December 02, 2016, 08:39:14 AM
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That was my strategy to lure BTM out to announce it Grin

Have a great day and please troll more!

Is this confirmed or just a troll?

I would be quite excited as I do want to have a R4 for fun at the moment.

Got an email from Bitmain. New batch of R4 will be available on the 2nd December 11pm Beijing Time.

Yea my comments and trust rating really show that I actively troll on the forum  Roll Eyes

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December 02, 2016, 10:07:34 AM
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Any info on how to import those to EU without paying VAT and customs fee ? (can double the price of HW in my country...)

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December 02, 2016, 11:03:38 AM
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Any info on how to import those to EU without paying VAT and customs fee ? (can double the price of HW in my country...)

You can try www.eastshore.xyz who sell bitmain gear. HagssFIN has bought three from them and they declare customs value at $90 so save on some fees.

Or buy from a member on here and ask to declare less value. Otherwise as you say you'll be stung massively for customs duty etc. I'm from the UK so looked into it a fair bit.

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December 02, 2016, 01:04:29 PM
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Dear Bitcoiners

Yes, its true that we are launching the second batch of the Antminer R4 today.


Please don't forget to adjust the BTC exchange rate  Wink
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December 02, 2016, 02:32:14 PM
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Any info on how to import those to EU without paying VAT and customs fee ? (can double the price of HW in my country...)

You can try www.eastshore.xyz who sell bitmain gear. HagssFIN has bought three from them and they declare customs value at $90 so save on some fees.

Or buy from a member on here and ask to declare less value. Otherwise as you say you'll be stung massively for customs duty etc. I'm from the UK so looked into it a fair bit.
I have bought
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-1x S9 from user BtcCrazy1

I'm really looking forward to this second batch of R4 and I might buy one if the price is reasonable.

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