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February 21, 2017, 09:26:40 PM
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So you did not found the project? You were just hired to write some basic software? Then they dropped you because funds were gone?

Yes, project founders are Oschepkov and Kuzmin.

There were fake news:
https://blog.mass.network/mycelium-ceo-acquires-mass-network/

I was very angry, because it was 100% untruth.

But Kuzmin told me that this announce is for PR only, so he could officially become a CEO. I decided not to quit, because everything looked ok, and devs were working. And I wanted to make a release of software.

Why they dropped me in Dec? I don't know, may be because I had so many questions...

But the other team members continue to work on project and worked until he stopped paying anything.
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February 21, 2017, 09:42:05 PM
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So you did not found the project? You were just hired to write some basic software? Then they dropped you because funds were gone?

Yes, project founders are Oschepkov and Kuzmin.

There were fake news:
https://blog.mass.network/mycelium-ceo-acquires-mass-network/

I was very angry, because it was 100% untruth.

But Kuzmin told me that this announce is for PR only, so he could officially become a CEO. I decided not to quit, because everything looked ok, and devs were working. And I wanted to make a release of software.

Why they dropped me in Dec? I don't know, may be because I had so many questions...

But the other team members continue to work on project and worked until he stopped paying anything.


Thank you for being honest and providing the information. I guess this points all the fingers at Kuzmin and his partner in crime.

The swishcoin project has an almost identical setup as mass. Same website template and a half finished piece of shit available for download on Google Play. Does anyone still think they are trying to start a real business?
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February 21, 2017, 09:57:28 PM
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The swishcoin project has an almost identical setup as mass.

Their new "project":

http://www.knowledger.consulting/
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February 22, 2017, 12:17:58 AM
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The swishcoin project has an almost identical setup as mass.

Their new "project":

http://www.knowledger.consulting/

We need to create a scam thread on scam sections about Mass Token,It's been a long time we should not let this people get away just like this,no wonder there were no updates,their thread and roadmap are good that you will have second thought plus their mass plugin was set up,this is a well planned scam ..

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February 22, 2017, 12:21:04 AM
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pianist, many thanks for dropping in here, and offering your help.

I am really happy to see you indeed care. Lets wait a bit, so the guys who offered their help in consolidating the investors efforts, could come here, and maybe ask some more specific question, or offer something...

Guys, we might need a slack, discord or similar group to discuss this, though for now the forum is ok.

Given all the info given, I feel we should seek help from some reputable public member of Bitcoin community, who can make (force) Kuzmin to come back to his investors and address the raised concerns.

... this space is not for rent ...
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February 22, 2017, 02:47:14 AM
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The Emperor's New Clothes。
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February 22, 2017, 02:54:14 AM
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pianist, many thanks for dropping in here, and offering your help.

I am really happy to see you indeed care. Lets wait a bit, so the guys who offered their help in consolidating the investors efforts, could come here, and maybe ask some more specific question, or offer something...

Guys, we might need a slack, discord or similar group to discuss this, though for now the forum is ok.

Given all the info given, I feel we should seek help from some reputable public member of Bitcoin community, who can make (force) Kuzmin to come back to his investors and address the raised concerns.


Lauda (unfortunately he is not a staff here anymore) but he has done a great job on Ascendancy to get back investors funds,we need a scam accusations on scam section,we must remember,this is Mass Token and it is a moderated thread,dev can come back here and delete all not so kind comments..

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February 22, 2017, 03:13:06 AM
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I participated in the signature campaign for the whole month and I have 200 Million Masss Token  on colu,can we also participate in the scam accusations and investors complain,if not for signature participants,this Mass Token will not take off,this is a very silent scam venture.

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February 22, 2017, 03:19:26 AM
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What is the truth?

I believe in pianist, because he published the OP, and he should be the original core dev, but you know the black history of Kuzimin, aka Mycelium CEO, he raised so much money from ICO in 2016, but what did he deliver? NOTHING.
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February 22, 2017, 04:41:07 AM
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How to participate in allegations and complaints?
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February 22, 2017, 05:36:27 AM
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Donate your masscoins to me if you dont believe masscoin is real and still working on it..if i didnt recieve masscoins meaning you believe that masscoin is our future to earn a lot of money via advertising.
Send to my Masscoin address to those who didnt  believe their projects and their roadmaps.
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So genegene , after all those accusations you still believe this is a legit project ? In case you are , id like to sell you my coins ( i believe that you will find many more sellers ) .

"It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong." Thomas Sowell
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February 22, 2017, 05:56:38 AM
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Donate your masscoins to me if you dont believe masscoin is real and still working on it..if i didnt recieve masscoins meaning you believe that masscoin is our future to earn a lot of money via advertising.
Send to my Masscoin address to those who didnt  believe their projects and their roadmaps.
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So genegene , after all those accusations you still believe this is a legit project ? In case you are , id like to sell you my coins ( i believe that you will find many more sellers ) .

They are hopeless, just sell your coins to him, otherwise you can hard sell it on the exchanges, exchanges do not accept this scam coin. Sorry.
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February 22, 2017, 06:40:46 AM
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The top investors of this project (coinholders) should form a group to contact the CEO of mycelium.  I can help form this group of elite investors.  Contact me.

I am also (unfortunately) an investor. Sent you PM.

pianist, thank you for writing here. At least now we know something solid.
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February 22, 2017, 07:30:19 AM
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The swishcoin project has an almost identical setup as mass.

Their new "project":

http://www.knowledger.consulting/

We need to create a scam thread on scam sections about Mass Token,It's been a long time we should not let this people get away just like this,no wonder there were no updates,their thread and roadmap are good that you will have second thought plus their mass plugin was set up,this is a well planned scam ..

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1799232.msg17930452#msg17930452
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February 22, 2017, 08:06:41 AM
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我同Mally通了话,他说他只是一个英语文档,并没有参与项目本身,筹多少比特币都不知道,只是因为没领到工资才离开MASS.
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Last edit: February 22, 2017, 04:32:57 PM by memalley
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I just heard about this thanks to a Chinese wechat user who added me to ask what was going on after seeing my LinkedIn profile thanks to the slanderous post, implicating me as a "professional scammer", from tokyopotato. His wanton accusation of me are as incorrect as they are inflammatory. It is obvious from his post who he really meant to target.

Now for my relationship with mass.

I stopped working for Alexander Kuzmin and Mycelium in November of 2016 and have had zero communication since then.

I was Product Manager of another Mycelium team. I later quit Mycelium because our offices were moved to Moscow...I was asked to relocate, said no thanks, and quit.  

In August or Sept of 2016, Kuzmin asked me to help edit the website for MASS since I was the only native ENG speaker at his disposal at the time. I did that and only that. At no point was equity or profit sharing EVER discussed with me. I acted under orders from my boss at the time to edit some copy for the site and blog and setup some social media accounts. that is all. He asked to put my pic and name on the website and said I should have a title since I was technically "part of the team"... Seemed like free publicity for me, why not? That was my only mistake in this issue. For that I am sorry.

I do not stand to gain anything from the MASS ICO and never did...
I am not a scammer, never have been and never will be.

I have made MANY MANY requests to have my name removed from the site... to no avail. Kuzmin has ignored my requests.

Since I found out about this issue, which I have not paid attention to since leaving, I have since deleted MASS from my LinkedIn, since you all seem to think it is a scam and I do not want to be associated with it if it is.

But let me be clear: I do not stand to profit IN ANY WAY FROM MASS or its ICO... Please contact Mr. Kuzmin

I have ZERO relations with Mycelium or Mr. Kuzmin or MASS since November 2016. However, their "pm,community manager, accountant" contacted me in Jan of this year. Maybe he can answer your questions.

http://imgur.com/a/soYDb
Never heard from him again.


I am sorry for anyone who feels they have been harmed but I am not able to help you. I wish that I could. All I did was edit and write some copy for the website and various social media.

I hope this helps clear up my relationship with Kuzmin and Mass. I hope tokyopotato can remove the slanderous post about me and my current employer, thank you.

edited: for clarification and brevity

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February 22, 2017, 08:24:02 AM
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I am trying to organize an investor's group of some sort to find answers and consider all of our options. Please PM me if you are interested in more details. I am a busy person so don't expect an immediate reply, but I will get back to you within a few days. Thanks.
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February 22, 2017, 08:31:59 AM
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我同Mally通了话,他说他只是一个英语文档,并没有参与项目本身,筹多少比特币都不知道,只是因为没领到工资才离开MASS.

Thank you, sir! This is the person who added me on WeChat and told me that my name was being implicated in a "scam". 多谢🙏哥们。 中国同志们我很抱歉, 我是编辑网站的英文版本而已。 我不会从这个项目中收任何的获利!! 16年11月之后没有和kuzmin或者mass团队联系过
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February 22, 2017, 08:40:38 AM
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He would seem the best person to ask where the ico funds went. Note 90+% of the dev work was done before the ico finished. So they can't say it's been used up.

Answered above. I am sorry this went down, sir. I never had anything to do with accepting or spending the funds.
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February 22, 2017, 09:34:24 AM
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I have left the project in December. No information.

Please, contact Alexander Kuzmin (CEO and escrow) and Alexei Oschepkov (Alexai Kontegna https://www.facebook.com/kontegna, project founder).


Hi!

Hi. I'm not part of the project since September 2016 after being fired by Alexander Pankov / "pianist"
(I wrote the white paper and few articles for them) but here's what I heard:

1)
Development is going on despite the fact that the first CTO left.

2)
The coins should be available to be bought and sold with Mycelium Wallet. I haven't tried it myself, though.

3)
The project CEO and owner is Alexander Kuzmin and I am quite sure if you drop them a line to the support address they can guide you through the process.


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