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July 23, 2013, 01:39:16 PM
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O site do MB voltou ao ar? Todos foram ressarcidos? Ótimo! bom sinal.
Todo mundo aqui ta torcendo pelo MB. (Assim como todo mundo torceu, ajudou a divulgar, investiu, pagou as fees, arrumou clientes, divulgou o blog, incontáveis recomendações ao MB na época que era uma barraquinha de limonada e que agora se isolou em uma ilha por causa dos ocorridos, tudo bem).
Saiba que mesmo se a pessoa for egoista está torcendo pelo MB pq sabe que o sucesso do MB é maior chance de ser ressarcida. (isso se parte da receita tiver ajudando no ressarcimento, senão é indiferente)

Todos sabem que houve depois de um tempo, interesse em reabrir o MB.
Todo mundo sabe tambem, que o grosso dos btcs estava/está/esteve(?)  no Rain, estamos falando de 15mil a 20mil bitcoins e milhões de dolares (ninguem sabe ao certo).

Ninguem sabe, ninguem sabe, ninguem sabe.... Sobre a falta de informação:

Quando você tem pouca informação os boatos começam a tomar cor e foi isso que aconteceu no ultimo grande atrito aqui no fórum, que tentamos apaziguar com muita conversa, bloqueios dos moderators e mensagem privada para os sujeitos que fizeram os ataques.

Mas é difícil ter argumentos contra alegações como:
"Meus bitcoins não se moveram, estão nesse endereço aqui. Não foram investidos."
Isso aí é com o dono do negócio, certo?

Então, mais uma vez, a única coisa que estamos pedindo é esclarecimentos, transparência, endereços, datas, previsões.
Por que as datas estão sendo empurradas para frente?
Por que foi proposto um método de pagamento obscuro que pode demorar meses ou decadas?

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July 25, 2013, 09:42:55 PM
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The next 3 weeks. In order to return the donation does not need pages or server. As I sent the first bitcoiny, just email. There is a lack of good will on the settlement and that is why we have the following dates are not adhered to.
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July 25, 2013, 11:13:09 PM
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 I share the same thinking, it looks like there is a lack of good will...and i get upset every time a date is delayed. I have learned something with this though... that i am not going to enter in such a risky investment again...at least not of this kind.  Undecided

Hope everything gets resolved at the end...but it looks like the journey is long.
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July 25, 2013, 11:31:28 PM
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The next 3 weeks. In order to return the donation does not need pages or server. As I sent the first bitcoiny, just email. There is a lack of good will on the settlement and that is why we have the following dates are not adhered to.

You really don't. but the lack of information is a great problem here .
At this point/situation if we were reimbursed the website could be closed for good.


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July 26, 2013, 02:41:18 AM
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He claims to have mixed the coins from both services --rain and mercadobitcoin.com.br--( making it an easy task to the attacker sweep all the coins)

if the mixed before mixing again now is even better idea. I think we can expect one payment plan coming from his main source of income anc bitcoins: mercadobitcoin.com.br

please L. tell us the percentage of the transactions fees from your exchange that are going to be destinated to pay your debts.

I would say 90% until everyone is paid.

and also we would love to see something like this on mercadobitcoin http://www.impostometro.com.br/   until the debt is cleared.
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July 26, 2013, 10:14:33 AM
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Wow, lots of activity on this thread lately which I am grateful for as I don't feel so alone anymore. I hope people can continue to post here in both Portuguese and English as this is the only thread on the forums where this matter is being discussed (I use Google Translate so I can read all the posts).

I'm sure we all have thought about basically exactly what LoweryCBS said but I have to say I personally do not believe it. Rain was not a HYIP, and Leandro is not a scammer.  Regardless, the coins are gone and now Leandro is overwhelmed with trying to pay back a lot of coins to a lot of people.

Have there not been other exchanges hacked this last year? How long did it take the clients of those exchanges to get their funds back? It's not like this is an isolated incident - I believe we have all learned that leaving coins on any sort of online wallet contains a significant level of risk.

By the end of August, there should be another "lottery" - if some people post that they have received a payment, we will know that Leandro is operating in good faith.

Being negative in the meantime won't help us get our coins back any faster - it will just make it worse. Put yourself in Leandro's shoes - would you be more inspired to work hard and pay back people who are supporting you and thankful that you did not abandon them or a bunch of people calling you a scammer and making accusations against  you?

Let's give Leandro the benefit of the doubt and another month for now.
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July 26, 2013, 12:11:40 PM
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Being negative in the meantime won't help us get our coins back any faster - it will just make it worse. Put yourself in Leandro's shoes - would you be more inspired to work hard and pay back people who are supporting you and thankful that you did not abandon them or a bunch of people calling you a scammer and making accusations against  you?

Let's give Leandro the benefit of the doubt and another month for now.
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There is a lot of questions in the air but, maybe L is going to clarify the things.

I really really do not want to be unfair, I hope he shut up my mouth presenting clear solutions and proposals.

What we want to know is: When we will receive 100% of the money back?
It can take time, ok.
It can be parceled, ok.
But we need a clear method of reimbursement.



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July 26, 2013, 01:58:16 PM
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whats your point? dont you know the full story?
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July 27, 2013, 12:47:05 AM
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Do you know anyone who was given some money back? I would be nice if someone who actually won the lotto could post some comments here.
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July 27, 2013, 01:12:41 AM
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Alguém devia é pegar esse safado  na rua e dar uma lição no cabra ladrão
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July 27, 2013, 03:43:05 AM
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Agora tb no Forum internacional para todos os discutirem em Inglês também.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=263231.0

Alguem acertou no leandro Cesar MegaBit?
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July 30, 2013, 10:44:27 AM
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Acho que o moderador do fórum esta dormindo de touca, já deveria ter banido esse Erectus!!!
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July 30, 2013, 11:00:56 AM
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Acho que o moderador do fórum esta dormindo de touca, já deveria ter banido esse Erectus!!!

Contanto que ele não desrespeite alguma regra ou algum membro do fórum, não existe nada de errado em fazer FUD.
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July 30, 2013, 04:57:33 PM
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Acho que o moderador do fórum esta dormindo de touca, já deveria ter banido esse Erectus!!!

Contanto que ele não desrespeite alguma regra ou algum membro do fórum, não existe nada de errado em fazer FUD.

Precisa nem banir.
Só deixar escrito Allex2501 na assinatura
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August 01, 2013, 01:03:53 AM
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Do you know anyone who was given some money back? I would be nice if someone who actually won the lotto could post some comments here.

Really would be nice...

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August 01, 2013, 08:47:44 PM
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Mais alguém recebeu no email uma Nota Fiscal Eletrônica (NF-e) da Prefeitura de São Paulo referente a prestação de serviços pelo MERCADO BITCOIN SERVIÇOS DIGITAIS LTDA ?






edit:  http://www.bitcoinbrasil.com.br/?p=722

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August 03, 2013, 02:32:15 PM
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Ok Novas informações


O 19vRqiFxFVGHNd4vqtE6TZM29XVZyQFu8Q  endereço de doações BTC  no footer do www.bitcoinbrasil.com.br/  (O site pertence ao Leandro) Recebeu mais de 5000 BTcs em doações. Como vc pode conferir no blockchain aqui
https://blockchain.info/address/19vRqiFxFVGHNd4vqtE6TZM29XVZyQFu8Q

tirem suas proprias conclusões

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August 03, 2013, 04:24:16 PM
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Did someone hired a lawyer, about BTC rain?
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August 03, 2013, 04:37:31 PM
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O 19vRqiFxFVGHNd4vqtE6TZM29XVZyQFu8Q  endereço de doações BTC  no footer do www.bitcoinbrasil.com.br/  (O site pertence ao Leandro) Recebeu mais de 5000 BTcs em doações.

Desculpa a ignorância, mas aonde está a transação em que foram recebidos os 5000BTC? Eu não consegui encontrar. O que eu achei foram várias transações de valores menores de antes do incidente.

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Alguém aqui denunciou o roubo do Bitcoinrain a alguma delegacia especializada? Leandro, essa pergunta é para você também se estiver lendo. Você fez alguma denúncia?

Sinceramente, esse assunto já foi longe demais. Pelo que estou vendo, milhares de bitcoins foram roubados e esse assunto é muito sério. Existem delegacias especializadas na investigação de crimes digitais. Em uma busca rápida na internet achei:

São Paulo:

Divisão Cibercrimes SSP-SP - 4ª Delegacia da DIG/DEIC
Avenida Zack Narchi,152 - Carandiru, São Paulo-SP OBS: perto da antiga detenção do Carandiru, próximo ao Center Norte, estação do metrô do carandiru
Telefone: 0xx11 - 6221-7011 - ramal 208 / 0xx1 - 6221-7030
E-mail: dig4@policia-civ.sp.gov.br (dig4@policiaSEM-SPAM-civ.sp.gov.br)

Rio de Janeiro

Divisão Cibercrimes SSP-RJ - Delegacia de Repressão aos Crimes de Informática (DRCI)
Endereço: Rua Professor Clementino Fraga nº 77 - Cidade Nova (prédio da 6ª DP), Rio de Janeiro, RJ
Telefone: 0xx21 - 3399-3203/3200
E-mails: drci@policiacivil.rj.gov.br (drci@policiacivilSEM-SPAM.rj.gov.br) / drci@pcerj.rj.gov.br (drci@pcerjSEM-SPAM.rj.gov.br)

Minas Gerais:

Delegacia Especializada de Repressão a Crimes contra a Informática e Fraudes Eletrônicas - DERCIFE
Endereço: Av. Antônio Carlos, 901 - Lagoinha - Belo Horizonte - MG
Telefone: 0xx31 - 3429-6024 | Horário de Atendimento: 08:30 às 18:30 horas

Distrito Federal

Divisão Cibercrimes SSP-DF - Delegacia Especial de Repressão aos Crimes Tecnológicos (DECAT)
Endereço: SAIS Sudoeste Bloco D Prédio DPE, Brasília, DF, 70.610-200
Telefone: (0xx61) 3234-5481
E-mail: dicat@pcdf.df.gov.br (dicat@pcdfSEM-SPAM.df.gov.br)

Espírito Santo

Polícia Civil - Núcleo de Repressão a Crimes Eletrônicos (NURECCEL)
Endereço: O Núcleo funciona do edifício-sede da Chefia de Polícia Civil, 2º andar, localizado na Av. Nossa Senhora da Penha, 2290 – Bairro Santa Luiza – Vitória/ES, ao lado do DETRAN.
Telefone: 0xx027 - 3137-9078 ou fax 0xx027 - 3137-9077
E-mail: nureccel@pc.es.gov.br (nureccel@pcSEM-SPAM.es.gov.br)
WebSite: http://www.pc.es.gov.br/nureccel.asp

Pará

Polícia Civil - Delegacia Virtual
WebSite: http://www.delegaciavirtual.pa.gov.br (http://www.delegaciavirtual.pa.gov.br/)
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August 03, 2013, 09:43:28 PM
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Já fiz o BO, e estão investigando. O advogado já está para acionar a justiça também. Juntos somos mais fortes...

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