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October 04, 2016, 02:37:32 AM
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yes bitcoin can. I am from Venezuela and bitcoin is one of the easiest way to get fiat money or buy something you need because our goverment don't give a shit about us and they are the only one who have fiat currency
with this you can buy without need third party, because third party exchanges of currency is currently the cancer of this country.

Is Venezuela is a poor country? I don't think it is a poor country and that is not included in the third world countries. Well I would say if you really hate those third party exchanging websites for converting bitcoins into your local currency. Instead of hating them that is helping your country for helping you convert fat to bitcoin, bitcoin to fiat.

Yes, Venezuela is a poor country, just search about the current government and try to not cry. I already saw a post here on bitcointalk about bitcoin/Venezuela.. something like "why Venezuela don't adopt bitcoin?" or somethig like that but I don't read it all..

For sure in the future we will see government projects about their own cryptos, just wait for it!

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October 04, 2016, 02:45:37 AM
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Can Bitcoin or any other altcoin help poor countries?
how? what can be done?

Bitcoin as far as I know can help the others or the individuals not the country alone. Bitcoin is not created by nakamoto for each country. if ever that bitcoin can help the poor country the their citizens must be a bitcoin enthusiast with that there is a chance that bitcoin can be a key for the poor country.
it is true it can help individual by using bitcoin but not the whole country therefor there are lots of country who really don't know what is bitcoin but they can learned it from internet geting source to have knowledge and then start trading or investing.

True. Only individuals could help by bitcoin but whole country i dont know. In individual it can help you in your daily needs because bitcoin is money  Cheesy and i agree country doesnt know the bitcoin only you.
If bitcoin can help whole country maybe the bitcoin price will be increase because of the demands that needs people are and it can also helps our economics in daily needs like building new building using bitcoin as payment for those workers and etc bitcoin is money from internet that can help people to earn also.
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October 04, 2016, 03:45:54 AM
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Can Bitcoin or any other altcoin help poor countries?
how? what can be done?

Bitcoin as far as I know can help the others or the individuals not the country alone. Bitcoin is not created by nakamoto for each country. if ever that bitcoin can help the poor country the their citizens must be a bitcoin enthusiast with that there is a chance that bitcoin can be a key for the poor country.
it is true it can help individual by using bitcoin but not the whole country therefor there are lots of country who really don't know what is bitcoin but they can learned it from internet geting source to have knowledge and then start trading or investing.

True. Only individuals could help by bitcoin but whole country i dont know. In individual it can help you in your daily needs because bitcoin is money  Cheesy and i agree country doesnt know the bitcoin only you.
If bitcoin can help whole country maybe the bitcoin price will be increase because of the demands that needs people are and it can also helps our economics in daily needs like building new building using bitcoin as payment for those workers and etc bitcoin is money from internet that can help people to earn also.
We just need a little more time for bitcoin to be known to the ground, we as the supporters of bitcoin can help the economy of bitcoin progress because we are here and that is assume we believe in bitcoin, we should start educating our family.

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October 04, 2016, 07:21:13 AM
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Can Bitcoin or any other altcoin help poor countries?
how? what can be done?

Bitcoin as far as I know can help the others or the individuals not the country alone. Bitcoin is not created by nakamoto for each country. if ever that bitcoin can help the poor country the their citizens must be a bitcoin enthusiast with that there is a chance that bitcoin can be a key for the poor country.
it is true it can help individual by using bitcoin but not the whole country therefor there are lots of country who really don't know what is bitcoin but they can learned it from internet geting source to have knowledge and then start trading or investing.

True. Only individuals could help by bitcoin but whole country i dont know. In individual it can help you in your daily needs because bitcoin is money  Cheesy and i agree country doesnt know the bitcoin only you.
If bitcoin can help whole country maybe the bitcoin price will be increase because of the demands that needs people are and it can also helps our economics in daily needs like building new building using bitcoin as payment for those workers and etc bitcoin is money from internet that can help people to earn also.
We just need a little more time for bitcoin to be known to the ground, we as the supporters of bitcoin can help the economy of bitcoin progress because we are here and that is assume we believe in bitcoin, we should start educating our family.

It would really takes time  for bitcoin to be  fully adopted  on all  over the world since there are lots of factors does affect its widespread or even the problem  is on  people itself  which some   dont have any idea on  digital stuffs. Yes we are  here   because we do believe on bitcoin. It does help  poor countries  regarding  to easy money transafers and earning  opportunities.

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October 04, 2016, 07:35:59 AM
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NO, it can not. There are many poor countries which does not allow its people to use bitcoin. And their economic system have not developed for bitcoin yet. Imagine it yourself, how can Africa can convert bitcoin into cash to help the people ? If you want to help these countries by bitcoin, the only way is to change their currency to bitcoin, and only bitcoin is accepted for payment.

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October 04, 2016, 10:43:25 AM
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NO, it can not. There are many poor countries which does not allow its people to use bitcoin. And their economic system have not developed for bitcoin yet. Imagine it yourself, how can Africa can convert bitcoin into cash to help the people ? If you want to help these countries by bitcoin, the only way is to change their currency to bitcoin, and only bitcoin is accepted for payment.
Helping means not converting bitcoins into cash so that the people will use it.
Helping must be creating earning opportunity and more employment for the people who are at least having internet connections.

By seeing so far, bitcoin has all the potential to innovate new business so that it will give you more employment opportunities for the poor countries. Bitcoin definitely will bring magic to poor countries if they adopt it.
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NO, it can not. There are many poor countries which does not allow its people to use bitcoin. And their economic system have not developed for bitcoin yet. Imagine it yourself, how can Africa can convert bitcoin into cash to help the people ? If you want to help these countries by bitcoin, the only way is to change their currency to bitcoin, and only bitcoin is accepted for payment.


If you want help the African country means just exchange that into your fiat and send the via phone payment or Western union. Else as you said government needs allow to get pay as bitcoin for the people temple. So all things would depends on the government.
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NO, it can not. There are many poor countries which does not allow its people to use bitcoin. And their economic system have not developed for bitcoin yet. Imagine it yourself, how can Africa can convert bitcoin into cash to help the people ? If you want to help these countries by bitcoin, the only way is to change their currency to bitcoin, and only bitcoin is accepted for payment.


If you want help the African country means just exchange that into your fiat and send the via phone payment or Western union. Else as you said government needs allow to get pay as bitcoin for the people temple. So all things would depends on the government.

handing over money to poor people will make them happy and help them out for a short while, but it doesn't even make a dent in the overall problem. infrastructure, schools, a system where start-ups are helped out with a certain amount of money, etc. all this has to come from the governments themselves. if they keep acting like they have been doing for decades, then literally nothing will happen.
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NO, it can not. There are many poor countries which does not allow its people to use bitcoin. And their economic system have not developed for bitcoin yet. Imagine it yourself, how can Africa can convert bitcoin into cash to help the people ? If you want to help these countries by bitcoin, the only way is to change their currency to bitcoin, and only bitcoin is accepted for payment.


If you want help the African country means just exchange that into your fiat and send the via phone payment or Western union. Else as you said government needs allow to get pay as bitcoin for the people temple. So all things would depends on the government.

handing over money to poor people will make them happy and help them out for a short while, but it doesn't even make a dent in the overall problem. infrastructure, schools, a system where start-ups are helped out with a certain amount of money, etc. all this has to come from the governments themselves. if they keep acting like they have been doing for decades, then literally nothing will happen.
money, whether it is fiat or bitcoin, is just a tool. so it depends on the people handling the money. you make a good point that education and infrastructure are important, but this alone will not be enough. you need more equality and fairness and less selfishness.

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October 04, 2016, 01:51:53 PM
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Yes I think that it can help some poor country's but of course I'm not very sure of it because of the fact that its stays something that is unpredictable.
If the bitcoin gets bigger it will happen for sure.
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October 04, 2016, 02:03:18 PM
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Yes bitcoin could potentially help poor countries it depends in what way though it can not make them unpoor.
But it could maybe help the people there for more jobs cause bitcoin created some jobs if you think about it that way so maybe like that they could earn money.
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October 04, 2016, 02:08:01 PM
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Can Bitcoin or any other altcoin help poor countries?
how? what can be done?
Bitcoin and another coins are never will help the poor countries is exit from their problem because like the countries is becoming a poor country is caused by how their government is managing their country and bitcoin is just a currency and just helping you in the currency area.
Do you really think that bitcoin helps poor people i dont think poor people can buy bitcoins so how are they able to help them i dont think you where right with this quetion i am sorry.
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Bitcoin might be able to help reduce curruption on some levels and make it harder for public money to dissappear in the hands of the few (e.g. charity money can be traced on the blockchain and verified what it is spend on).

It's nice to see a comment like that, it can help ALL countries, not just the poor.

Bitcoin can't help an entire country. but it can surely help the person who use bitcoin if he's poor. and if a country have a lot of bitcoin users then it will surely be beneficial and for that country.
bitcoin need some contribution. if you contribute with bitcoin and crypto currencies . they will reward you for sure. but if you think bitcoin should give you fortune without doing anything just because you are a poor person then keep dreaming.

Yeap, that was my first thought: you can do online jobs and receive on bitcoins, so you can have a better $/hour.
but the poorest contries/people don't have access to a computer/internet or skills.

Can Bitcoin or any other altcoin help poor countries?
how? what can be done?
Bitcoin and another coins are never will help the poor countries is exit from their problem because like the countries is becoming a poor country is caused by how their government is managing their country and bitcoin is just a currency and just helping you in the currency area.

Well, the first comment shows to us the bitcoin can help against corruption and that's a big step.
Maybe a altcoin related to education? Other day I saw a altcoin related to chess, where kids can earn playing, maybe someone can make something like that.

Poor countries need a very optimistic government towards new tech so that they can embrace bitcoin like tecnology and support mining bitcoin to generate free foreign currency which they can use to increase their USD holdings to become stronger economically. But most of the poor countries are poor due to corrupt political system and political unsatability and they don't have enough time to consider and learn about bitcoin.

Like a altcoin used as second currency? And instead of big taxes, the government can mine the coin?
Yeap, for sure it's more easily to rich countries do that.

Can Bitcoin or any other altcoin help poor countries?
how? what can be done?
For me bitcoin can't help the country when the country is poor some countrybare populated but if a poor people start using bitcoin probably it can help them to earn money for their selves because poor people is the problem of the goverment and not a bitcoin problem

Sometimes poor countries are explored by rich countries too. oil, diamonds...

Government of the poor countries doesn't have the infrastructure to adopt bitcoin as a currency, neither they have willingness.

Yeap, infrastructure seems to be the major problem. What if some countries, for example 6, set up a union and create a altcoin?
The price will increase a lot if they use it as a secondary currency, the taxes between that countries can go down and heat the commerce
Like the European Union(I don't understand to much about the EU, don't know all the benefits/evils)

Bitcoin cannot help a poor country. I have the following reasons which I would like to site:

Low Internet access - If people cant access internet how will they even know about bitcoin let alone do transactions through it.
Low Security measures - totally insecure to them since they have very low knowledge
Low Fees for miners - This will hurt miners
Low usage - People in poor countries are "Poor" - they need more time to work hard and earn Fiat, since they are poor they would never accept bitcoin as primary source of money and would never believe that it is secure as well.

Yeap, that reasons is a good point.
Now think about that, can bitcoin or a altcoin bring more tecnology to poor countries?
For example, the government creates a "Example Coin" to use as secondary currency, they can open a big miner to mine this coin, the altcoin will increase the value, government can use that valorized coin to buy computers to schools and/or for people in general, the government can pay peoples to teach others. And after people start to use, it will maintain a good price. And tecnology can bring knowledge. And well, I think this can be done with smartphones too, nowadays have some real cheap(they can use to read news, ebooks, forums, everything).
The government can use the coin to invest in tecnology.
Or not.

I don't think so. These countries are poor for a reason. If you would look at them with caution, you will find out that these countries' governments have either not accepted US's rules or got some mass of oil or commodities. Anyways, I'm going off topic right now.

Bitcoin can't help poor countries, except if there was a donation or something where we could send our money to be spent for the poor. However, we've seen many of these 'donations' and no change at all so...

Yeap, major problem is the government(inside or outside)

Donations are there since a long time, I think poor countries need something related to education, I mencioned a "example" of a altcoin related to chess in other reply..

yes bitcoin can help poor countries. Just like what happened to me and my peers who are living in a third world country. Before many of us do not earn while at home and some just sit on the couch and watching television. But when bitcoin came into the picture within our homes we can earn thru online jobs and signature campaigns and from investments. By sitting on the couch and facing the computer we are earning bitcoins and convert it to cash.

Good to read that, maybe you can learn to use some softwares like Photoshop or something like that to earn more and have a job!

Bitcoin or any other altcoin cannot necessarily help poor countries. Not everyone in third world countries has an Internet access, and even if somebody has an Internet access, it doesn't assure that he is interested or is he knowledgeable about Bitcoin. I think the only people that can financially helped by Bitcoin are those that have a deep knowledge about it. The trading, gambling, and other stuffs that you can do with Bitcoin can only be obtained through experience and an intrinsic interest towards Bitcoin.

Yeap, the tecnology factor is a problem. Now... How can bitcoin/altcoin bring tecnology to poor countries?

Help a poor country means? To grow? I don't think so if it's only bitcoin. Honestly, even bitcoin will be accepted in a country, that country must not depend their economic growth on it. Of course every country has their own ways to be productive and grow, if ever, bitcoin will just be an addition to that. It can help those unemployed citizens individually if they will be giving such effort to learn about it and earn it.

To help with financial status, to bring knowledge to people, to bring more tecnology to this countries, I think a computer/internet can open ways, and people can use it as a second currency, maybe doing online jobs. You know, they receive a very small salary, with training they can earn in a month what they earn in a year. Of course it would be in long term.
Well, I don't have the magic formula to this.


Bitcoin itself cant help poor countries but it can help people to earn money with bitcoin. and if you are a hard working person, you can take it as a full time job and help you somehow to have a good life.

So how people from poor countries can work for bitcoin if internet connection is really horrible? Also how they will do such bitcoin earning method if they are lacked of devices?

And more importantly, how they can use their bitcoin if no exchanger that has a convertion services is not available since I think no exchanger will opened services for poor countries due to lack of accessibility.

Yeap, the internet connection must be a giant problem. I'm thinking about how the bitcoin or a altcoin can bring more tecnology to this countries, but I still don't know.



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I dont think bitcoin can help poor countrys do you know why poor people cant buy bitcoins because 1 bitcoin is 600 dollar and poort people does nothave that much for bitcoins.
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October 04, 2016, 02:10:35 PM
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NO, it can not. There are many poor countries which does not allow its people to use bitcoin. And their economic system have not developed for bitcoin yet. Imagine it yourself, how can Africa can convert bitcoin into cash to help the people ? If you want to help these countries by bitcoin, the only way is to change their currency to bitcoin, and only bitcoin is accepted for payment.
Helping means not converting bitcoins into cash so that the people will use it.
Helping must be creating earning opportunity and more employment for the people who are at least having internet connections.

By seeing so far, bitcoin has all the potential to innovate new business so that it will give you more employment opportunities for the poor countries. Bitcoin definitely will bring magic to poor countries if they adopt it.
You are right. Bitcoin ecosystem has all the possibilities to make new employment to poor country people by giving them new business ideas.

Making use of bitcoin for creating earning opportunity by having business outsourcing from developed countries comparatively in less prices would be one of the example here. Due to adoption of bitcoin, people will be ready to work for lowers wages by speculating in future of bitcoin price appreciations.
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October 04, 2016, 02:11:28 PM
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Bitcoin itself cant help poor countries, it might help some people which live at them, they can join a signature or even use faucets to start, and then build their own faucet or project as well focus into signature here, some people do live with 100 dollars monthly, sure inst the perfect live .
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October 04, 2016, 02:15:27 PM
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I don't think so.
Poor people are in such situation because of luck of education, wars and conflicts, they mostly don'+t have Internet (even electricity), have no food, shelter etc.
Bitcoin can't help such people.
BTC users must have Internet (and electricity), some basic education, computer etc.

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October 04, 2016, 02:20:58 PM
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I don't think so.
Poor people are in such situation because of luck of education, wars and conflicts, they mostly don'+t have Internet (even electricity), have no food, shelter etc.
Bitcoin can't help such people.
BTC users must have Internet (and electricity), some basic education, computer etc.

well, there are different kinds of poor people. some of them have internet and some of them are educated. bitcoin will not be able to help all and solve all problems, but it can give some people one more opportunity.

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October 04, 2016, 02:25:46 PM
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Bitcoin itself cant help poor countries, it might help some people which live at them, they can join a signature or even use faucets to start, and then build their own faucet or project as well focus into signature here, some people do live with 100 dollars monthly, sure inst the perfect live .
Sure it is not perfect life, but for some places in the world 100$ per month is normal thing. So I am agree with you that some passive bitcoin making as faucets can bring some money above to their ordinary money. It can be good undercooking to such places.
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October 04, 2016, 02:27:35 PM
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well i think yes it can help but that is mostly depend on those who will use it so it is on them how they will use it and also on bad or good side. but by default it will help them

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October 04, 2016, 04:07:29 PM
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Yes bitcoin could potentially help poor countries it depends in what way though it can not make them unpoor.
But it could maybe help the people there for more jobs cause bitcoin created some jobs if you think about it that way so maybe like that they could earn money.

Right. It may not help the whole country, but it can help the people in it to survive by having a part time income from bitcoin. Even the earnings from signature campaign can be great help if converted to local fiat.
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