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October 17, 2016, 09:28:36 AM
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I invested just now! Everything worked fine Smiley

There are 1362BTC invested so far.. Looking good  Grin

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October 17, 2016, 09:34:54 AM
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why would this be better than zcash the real thing that is being in launched 2 weeks, i for one dont want my btc stuck in here when that launches
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October 17, 2016, 09:51:41 AM
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why would this be better than zcash the real thing that is being in launched 2 weeks, i for one dont want my btc stuck in here when that launches

SuperNET + Iguana + Komodo = MOON  Grin



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October 17, 2016, 10:01:44 AM
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why would this be better than zcash the real thing that is being in launched 2 weeks, i for one dont want my btc stuck in here when that launches

SuperNET + Iguana + Komodo = MOON  Grin


LOL, keep dreaming, and supernet runs for 2 years, still nothing. Even the price is not 50% of ico price.

Hope is bad habbit in trading and investing, the reality will kill our dreams.
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October 17, 2016, 10:03:04 AM
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why would this be better than zcash the real thing that is being in launched 2 weeks, i for one dont want my btc stuck in here when that launches

Personally, I believe its always good to diversify. Both Komodo and Z cash look great projects. They are both slightly different implementations of the Zero Knowledge proofs; I have invested in both.

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October 17, 2016, 10:10:49 AM
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why would this be better than zcash the real thing that is being in launched 2 weeks, i for one dont want my btc stuck in here when that launches
Komodo will have the privacy of Zcash, but with the security of Bitcoin.

We will have to wait and see what security is like for Zcash once mining starts.
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October 17, 2016, 10:10:56 AM
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Komodo Dev Blog: Iguana Notary Dapp Creates A Notarized Tx.


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October 17, 2016, 10:33:56 AM
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Some news articles on the ICO:

Komodo: A Fresh Look On An Older Blockchain
http://www.cryptocoinhome.com/komodo-a-fresh-look-on-an-older-blockchain/

Komodo Anonymous Cryptocurrency Announces the Launch of Its Upcoming ICO
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/komodo-anonymous-cryptocurrency-announces-the-launch-of-its-upcoming-ico-300344935.html
http://www.newsbtc.com/2016/10/15/komodo-anonymous-cryptocurrency-announces-launch-upcoming-ico

Komodo platform review - A  bitcoin anonymous platform
http://www.viral-alert.com/komodo-platform-review/

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October 17, 2016, 11:01:16 AM
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why would this be better than zcash the real thing that is being in launched 2 weeks, i for one dont want my btc stuck in here when that launches

The beauty of open source projects is that they help each other. We expect many projects to use the Zcash privacy technology, and that we are simply the first to do so.

SuperNET needs to have its own privacy technology so it can have more agile development, and not be depended on others. SuperNET, Iguana, or any other SuperNET related project doesn't have its own blockchain (it's not a coin). The only 'coin' we have had is the BTCD, and now we are going to upgrade it into Komodo.

Moreover, it's not only about privacy functions, it's also about dPoW. Our roadmap needs a way to secure weak chains, as we will have 'assetchains' where every asset has its own chain. Then those assets can be traded via atomic swaps in a decentralized exchange. So Komodo's dPoW plays a vital role in this vision, and of course it can be used by any other blockchain if they want to (even Zcash).

For example the Stratis Platform has talked about how they are interested about using dPoW as a 2FA method to secure their private chains.

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Will Stratis consider using Komodo's dPoW to additionally secure its mainchain and private chains with Bitcoin's hashrate?

That is a very good question!

I have worked with jl777 before and he is a very talented developer and I have got a lot of time form James.

I know he gets a lof of slack from people but one thing that cannot be denied is his skills: he is a very skilled developer and very skilled around blockchain. I have spoken with him about a dPoW and what I will say is we are definitely considering providing dPoW functionality on private chains.

Whatever we actually think about implementing it in the actual Stratis parent chain... Probably not but it would definitely be a very cool feature to offer on private chains. If a private chain was secured by the Stratis chain and also secured by dPoW it would actually give it a two-factor consensus model. They wouldn't be relying on just one form of consensus to validate the blockchain, but it would actually have two methods. It gives them additional redundancy so it is definitely something we are going to look into.

I really like Komodo and the concept behind it and dPoW.

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October 17, 2016, 11:09:16 AM
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jl777 has addressed the issue about competition with Zcash before:

I want to address the issue of "competition with zcash"
There is none.

open source projects are open source in the hopes that other projects utilize it, build on it, maybe even grant back improvements. That is exactly what komodo is doing. Utilizing zcash, building on it and we will of course gladly give back any and all improvements zcash team deems worthy. They are not going to be doing GUI for a while, so maybe we can contribute a dual ZEC/KMD GUI. And if they want to, they can even just strip out the KMD part of the GUI, but they dont strike me as that type.

I have also extended an offer for the 5% staking revenues from the zkp protected funds as there is no way to calculate anything but the aggregate amount in protected form. So this interest can either just extend the coin emission, or it can be donated to the zcash team. So far no interest in this from them. Probably since they are well funded and will be making a ton of money with the ZEC, which I expect to be a game changer in crypto.

The history of zcash starts with zerocoin that Dr. Matt Green wanted to have bitcoin adopt. Well, that didnt get very far... So there is now a zcash company that is creating a bitcoin compatible + zcash combo. Are they doing it with a profit motive? It doesnt look like it to me, they want the zkp tech to be disseminated far and wide. And they are only making money if ZEC becomes worth a lot. Money is nice and pays the bills, but that does not appear to be the primary motivation.

Being adopted by major projects is exactly what creates the big value to the original fork. And being adopted by major projects disseminates the zkp tech far and wide. After komodo's example, my guess is that there will be many other zcash forks so komodo will just be the first of many.

jl777 compares the situation with Apple, Intel, and their "competitition":

zcash has a great team and has done an incredible job putting the zksnarks into bitcoin protocol and they will be continually improving the tech at that level. So it is more like an Apple and Intel "competitition". Does Apple compete with Intel?

i wouldnt say it does. Apple uses the intel processors, along with many others. And Intel does make their own computers, so the analogy is pretty close

I think what people get caught up in is the financial aspect, but when dealing with crypto currencies it isnt exactly like a consumer product. The network effect  is one of the most powerful things and the more the zcash protocol is used, the more valuable zcash is. it is not purely a cashflow thing when what your "product"  can be used as money.

Money is worth more when more people use it. Now we can split hairs and say if people are using KMD they are not using ZEC, but if you look at the protocol level, both are using zcash.

Looking at the big picture, think about what the effect on zcash would have been had KMD chosen cryptonote tech to use. I think we are in a stage where the industry standards are still not decided on privacy tech. The protocol that gets selected will allocate massive future valuations to the entities that are at the cutting edge of that protocol.

Using the Intel analogy, if you go back in time, once there was a battle between Intel and Motorola in the very early days of CPU. The "protocol" in this case is the CPU instruction set, little endian vs big endian, opcodes, etc. And Intel ended up with the winning protocol so over the decades, Intel grew massively while Motorola languished. When Apple switched to Intel CPU, that was basically the end of the Motorola CPU as far as any meaningful marketshare.

Mapping this to the crypto space, we are in a similar stage. Other than bitcoin, things are all potential and we dont have the mass market version yet. Without privacy, corporations wont use crypto for anything other than petty cash. Looking forward it will be hard to stop the proliferation of crypto based products, just as it wasnt possible to stop the proliferation of CPU based products. How many products have a CPU inside them now? That is a rough estimate to the number of blockchains we will have in the future.

This is why I am working hard to standardize on as much as possible. The bitcoin hashrate to secure all the blockchains. The zcash protocol for privacy. Atomic cross chain swaps for interop. But all this is "under the hood" tech that the fancy GUI will hide from the end user. In one sense it is invisible, but it is as important as the selection of CPU and protocol stack. There are no governing standards bodies, so the standardization needs to emerge from the adoption.

I hope you can better understand why I dont see komodo as competing with zcash.

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October 17, 2016, 11:30:04 AM
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Komodo platform rolls out Komodo cryptocurrency ICO



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October 17, 2016, 11:45:11 AM
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Shared on https://twitter.com/blockchainguideSmiley
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October 17, 2016, 12:02:10 PM
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3 hours left to receive a 25% bonus, be part of our ICO.



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October 17, 2016, 12:03:25 PM
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Thank you!! Smiley
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October 17, 2016, 12:08:20 PM
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nother ico of a nxt related project / Coin / Asset ?

GET EM!
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October 17, 2016, 12:12:23 PM
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nother ico of a nxt related project / Coin / Asset ?

GET EM!
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Absolutely nothing to do with NXT.

It is about bitcoin and zcash

http://www.digitalcatallaxy.com/report2015.html
100+ page annual report for SuperNET
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October 17, 2016, 12:15:02 PM
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what is the bonus for komodo ICO for now? i only receive 20% extra. does anyone have this problem?
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October 17, 2016, 12:20:53 PM
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what is the bonus for komodo ICO for now? i only receive 20% extra. does anyone have this problem?

Yes, don't worry, we will manually change it to 25 % later today.

There still is 2 hours 40 minutes left, then the bonus will drop to 20 %

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October 17, 2016, 01:00:13 PM
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25% bonus still active ?

Edit: İ saw your post now sorry
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October 17, 2016, 01:18:37 PM
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Komodo Anonymous Cryptocurrency Announces the Launch of Its Upcoming ICO, By @CryptoCoinsNews



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