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October 13, 2017, 02:20:17 AM
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I am no expert when speaking of bitcoin, but I have been watching the value and evolution since just a few years after it was started. the recent bizarre events regarding bitcoin have caused me to summarize a brief statement, here follows. just now I am looking at coinmarketcap and they are showing btc at $5500 .. some short time ago the coins were $400. I have a theory about what happened to it because it started to seem absurd just after the $400 point (in my opinion). bitcoin was bought (everyone has seen the so called 'whales') well, a substantial portion of bitcoin was bought, by the same entity that would seek to control it, obviously. if having bought a significant portion of the total available supply then one can set the price at any moment. we all know this but who has considered that a very significant portion of the bitcoin network (just like the mining) is owned by very few entities (if not a single entity/corporation/whatnot). it is not out of the question at all to consider such a move as this would be common strategy for anyone (anything) with enough wealth wishing to purchase the controlling power of the network. when the price was set to 10X over the years following, there is no room for loss, because all of the earnings were made back since the price increase. the remaining portion of the coins could be dispensed at whatever cost.. now at the most absurd time the coins have gained so much value in 2 days? yeah right. I may be mistaken but it seems that any sane person would probably panic sell considering the severity and relevance of the proposed blockchain split. yet the price just keeps going up.. ? seems like sabotage to me. anyway, thats my 2 cents.

why I am posting this in the komodo thread? really I guess just to share a perspective but also and more importantly to make those who are holding aware that bitcoin is not the king and it will not be the king because it is most likely controlled by a single entity. just an encouragement for komodo as it seems obvious to me that komodo has the potential to rise to the top.
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October 13, 2017, 03:53:45 AM
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from the readme:

We have a release process that goes through several stages before it reaches master. This allows the most conservative users just use the master branch, which is only updated after the other branches have signed off on a release.

99% of the activity is in the dev branch, this is where I am testing each change one by one and there are literally thousands of updates. Only use this branch if you really want to be on the bleeding edge. I try to keep things stable, but there are times where necessarily there are bugs in the dev branch, since I am actively developing and debugging here. A good rule is to wait for at least 4 hours from the last update before using the dev branch (unless you know what you are doing)

After things look good in the dev branch, it is propagated to the beta branch, this is the version the notary nodes use. They are knowledegable command line server guys and so they have a keen eye for anything that wasnt caught during the dev cycle.

After the notary nodes verify things are working and the latest release is deemed stable, it is propagated to the dPoW branch. From here an automated Jenkins process builds it for all OS, and since the notary nodes are all unix, it is possible for some issues to be caught at this stage. The dPoW branch is what goes into the GUI installers.

After the GUI are updated and released and it is verified that no significant support issues were created, the master branch is finally updated.

Master branch: exchanges and users that build from the repo without changing branches
dPoW branch: autobuild into GUI installers, unix, osx, windows
beta branch: notary nodes, command line unix
dev branch: bleeding edge, possibly wont even compile, multiple updates per hour



Thanks for detailed explanation.

Can you make tag and release binaries time to time? So that we can communicate with version number if there's some bug in it.

I mostly think that official stable version should be released.
Current latest release date was on 9 Sep, 2016. I think it's too old.

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October 13, 2017, 05:48:06 AM
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I get this error while compiling komodo from master branch.


https://z.cash/depends-sources/libsnark-3854b20c25e8bc567aab2b558dec84d45f4a3e73.tar.gz:
2017-10-13 05:46:16 ERROR 404: Not Found.
https://supernetorg.bintray.com/misc//libsnark-3854b20c25e8bc567aab2b558dec84d45f4a3e73.tar.gz:
2017-10-13 05:46:16 ERROR 403: Forbidden.


As z.cash server doesn't host libsnark files any more, you should prepare it for Komodo.

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October 13, 2017, 07:08:58 AM
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I get this error while compiling komodo from master branch.


https://z.cash/depends-sources/libsnark-3854b20c25e8bc567aab2b558dec84d45f4a3e73.tar.gz:
2017-10-13 05:46:16 ERROR 404: Not Found.
https://supernetorg.bintray.com/misc//libsnark-3854b20c25e8bc567aab2b558dec84d45f4a3e73.tar.gz:
2017-10-13 05:46:16 ERROR 403: Forbidden.


As z.cash server doesn't host libsnark files any more, you should prepare it for Komodo.
Are you using jl777 or supernetorg repo?

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October 13, 2017, 08:09:53 AM
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I get this error while compiling komodo from master branch.


https://z.cash/depends-sources/libsnark-3854b20c25e8bc567aab2b558dec84d45f4a3e73.tar.gz:
2017-10-13 05:46:16 ERROR 404: Not Found.
https://supernetorg.bintray.com/misc//libsnark-3854b20c25e8bc567aab2b558dec84d45f4a3e73.tar.gz:
2017-10-13 05:46:16 ERROR 403: Forbidden.


As z.cash server doesn't host libsnark files any more, you should prepare it for Komodo.
Are you using jl777 or supernetorg repo?

jl777 repo.

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October 13, 2017, 08:38:48 AM
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from the readme:

We have a release process that goes through several stages before it reaches master. This allows the most conservative users just use the master branch, which is only updated after the other branches have signed off on a release.

99% of the activity is in the dev branch, this is where I am testing each change one by one and there are literally thousands of updates. Only use this branch if you really want to be on the bleeding edge. I try to keep things stable, but there are times where necessarily there are bugs in the dev branch, since I am actively developing and debugging here. A good rule is to wait for at least 4 hours from the last update before using the dev branch (unless you know what you are doing)

After things look good in the dev branch, it is propagated to the beta branch, this is the version the notary nodes use. They are knowledegable command line server guys and so they have a keen eye for anything that wasnt caught during the dev cycle.

After the notary nodes verify things are working and the latest release is deemed stable, it is propagated to the dPoW branch. From here an automated Jenkins process builds it for all OS, and since the notary nodes are all unix, it is possible for some issues to be caught at this stage. The dPoW branch is what goes into the GUI installers.

After the GUI are updated and released and it is verified that no significant support issues were created, the master branch is finally updated.

Master branch: exchanges and users that build from the repo without changing branches
dPoW branch: autobuild into GUI installers, unix, osx, windows
beta branch: notary nodes, command line unix
dev branch: bleeding edge, possibly wont even compile, multiple updates per hour



Thanks for detailed explanation.

Can you make tag and release binaries time to time? So that we can communicate with version number if there's some bug in it.

I mostly think that official stable version should be released.
Current latest release date was on 9 Sep, 2016. I think it's too old.
master branch was updated 23 days ago, I dont think that it's too old (just updated to fix build issue)
dPoW branch was updated 4 days ago
beta branch was updated 4 days ago
dev branch was updated 12 hours ago

each git commit has a hash, you can always report a bug against a specific commit hash.

exactly what bug do you want to report? Or is it a theoretical need to be able to refer to some version number in case you find a bug? If so, just use the github hash, why to spend time to manually tag things when git does it automatically?

The release process above is made so you can pull from master and get a stable release. Is it not stable? Did you find a bug in master branch?
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October 13, 2017, 08:43:40 AM
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I get this error while compiling komodo from master branch.


https://z.cash/depends-sources/libsnark-3854b20c25e8bc567aab2b558dec84d45f4a3e73.tar.gz:
2017-10-13 05:46:16 ERROR 404: Not Found.
https://supernetorg.bintray.com/misc//libsnark-3854b20c25e8bc567aab2b558dec84d45f4a3e73.tar.gz:
2017-10-13 05:46:16 ERROR 403: Forbidden.


As z.cash server doesn't host libsnark files any more, you should prepare it for Komodo.
Are you using jl777 or supernetorg repo?

jl777 repo.
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October 13, 2017, 12:58:11 PM
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JL or others, can you please explain where the UNITY (nxt asset exchange) fits into all this?  what will become of it? 
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October 13, 2017, 01:49:37 PM
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JL or others, can you please explain where the UNITY (nxt asset exchange) fits into all this?  what will become of it? 
will migrate along with most of the other SuperNET NXT assets to their own assetchains.
until we have an easy way to trade them (barterDEX GUI) there isnt a point to transition, so that is the next milestone needed for this.
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October 13, 2017, 02:22:56 PM
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I see the Asset Issuer on the nxt asset exchange from time to time on the buy side (I presume that's you)?  Why will these become of any value (vs Komodo)?  I'm missing something.
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October 13, 2017, 03:46:03 PM
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I see the Asset Issuer on the nxt asset exchange from time to time on the buy side (I presume that's you)?  Why will these become of any value (vs Komodo)?  I'm missing something.
If people are willing to sell SuperNET asset below NAV, the just buy purchasing it below NAV, increases the NAV.
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October 13, 2017, 04:28:40 PM
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Thanks for detailed explanation.

Can you make tag and release binaries time to time? So that we can communicate with version number if there's some bug in it.

I mostly think that official stable version should be released.
Current latest release date was on 9 Sep, 2016. I think it's too old.
master branch was updated 23 days ago, I dont think that it's too old (just updated to fix build issue)
dPoW branch was updated 4 days ago
beta branch was updated 4 days ago
dev branch was updated 12 hours ago

each git commit has a hash, you can always report a bug against a specific commit hash.

exactly what bug do you want to report? Or is it a theoretical need to be able to refer to some version number in case you find a bug? If so, just use the github hash, why to spend time to manually tag things when git does it automatically?

The release process above is made so you can pull from master and get a stable release. Is it not stable? Did you find a bug in master branch?
I think he is just trying to figure out which repo he should build a pool with. He expressed interest in adding KMD to his pool a while ago... unless he has had a problem building?...
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October 13, 2017, 06:02:09 PM
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Will  https://ico.komodoplatform.com/  be back online today? I had some BTCD pending deposit ...
Thanks.
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October 13, 2017, 08:07:31 PM
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Hello, currently Komodo Swing Wallet has been stating "please wait - daemon takes longer to start..." for a day and a half.

This was my first time installing the Swing Wallet...  my coins do not show up on the Agama wallet any longer (1.5 months), but are there on the block explorer.

I have restarted it once hoping to kick it into gear.

I'm currently running the newest MAC OS.

Anyone else had issues or no issues on a mac?

I would like to be able to see my coins to regain that warm fuzzy feeling inside, and to send my swapped coins on the 15th over to the wallet.


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October 13, 2017, 08:23:44 PM
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I suggest using the command line install: https://support.supernet.org/solution/articles/29000014904-komodo-platform-command-line-install-on-mac-os

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October 13, 2017, 08:39:00 PM
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Will  https://ico.komodoplatform.com/  be back online today? I had some BTCD pending deposit ...
Thanks.

I have informed the devs.





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ICO Site still down?

I cannot request a payout.
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October 14, 2017, 04:27:43 AM
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I can't believe KMD is still such low...great for me as more cheap kmd for me to buy and hodl!!!

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October 14, 2017, 10:38:48 AM
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I am no expert when speaking of bitcoin, but I have been watching the value and evolution since just a few years after it was started. the recent bizarre events regarding bitcoin have caused me to summarize a brief statement, here follows. just now I am looking at coinmarketcap and they are showing btc at $5500 .. some short time ago the coins were $400. I have a theory about what happened to it because it started to seem absurd just after the $400 point (in my opinion). bitcoin was bought (everyone has seen the so called 'whales') well, a substantial portion of bitcoin was bought, by the same entity that would seek to control it, obviously. if having bought a significant portion of the total available supply then one can set the price at any moment. we all know this but who has considered that a very significant portion of the bitcoin network (just like the mining) is owned by very few entities (if not a single entity/corporation/whatnot). it is not out of the question at all to consider such a move as this would be common strategy for anyone (anything) with enough wealth wishing to purchase the controlling power of the network. when the price was set to 10X over the years following, there is no room for loss, because all of the earnings were made back since the price increase. the remaining portion of the coins could be dispensed at whatever cost.. now at the most absurd time the coins have gained so much value in 2 days? yeah right. I may be mistaken but it seems that any sane person would probably panic sell considering the severity and relevance of the proposed blockchain split. yet the price just keeps going up.. ? seems like sabotage to me. anyway, thats my 2 cents.

why I am posting this in the komodo thread? really I guess just to share a perspective but also and more importantly to make those who are holding aware that bitcoin is not the king and it will not be the king because it is most likely controlled by a single entity. just an encouragement for komodo as it seems obvious to me that komodo has the potential to rise to the top.

@awill333 that is one hell of a theory!.....So here's another........ This is called cryptocurrency, the idea being a digital currency to act as an alternative to fiat. Bitcoin is the first cryptocurrency to fill that roll. All the developments in sidechains...asset exchanges......decentralized exchanges.....untraceable transactions........proof of stake...smart contracts etc are not alternatives for fiat. Bitcoins price rise is more likely because it has a limited supply 16,621,950 BTC approximately (21,000,000 total supply) and investors are desperate to find a safe haven that QE can't affect. Having a never ending ICO fest where you instantly have hundreds of millions of coins/tokens being created every other day is the equivalent of crypto QE. So I dispute that BTC is not the king...even KMD use's the BTC networks hash power.

Many of the developments that are happening in the crypto world will prove to be of great benefit to mankind, however many of them will have little practical use as a currency for the average person.

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October 14, 2017, 04:32:20 PM
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People like free stuff. Bitcoin splits, though potentially dangerous, are free money. Obviously is causing a btc pump.

Kmd had the jumblr airdrop pump, of course those came from james's personal stash.

Point being, don't underestimate the fomo around free things.

Maybe when btc is done splitting in nov, kmd will have an airdrop pump... Revs?
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