china government son of bitch !!!

[tvbcof]

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What is fun is that a group of people believe that Chinese citizens aren't interested by freedom and liberty. That they love to censored and told what to do or not...

I know from my personal conversations that a decent fraction of mainland Chinese support their government's stance on these kinds of things for the protection of society at large.  Or at least the perception of this (which is in my opinion somewhat valid given the realpolitik.)  My sense from my conversations is that this sentiment has been conditioned in from early childhood.
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However most chineses are good people, and you know without any warming one day, without anyone realizing it the cccp will fall. The good people of China will rise as they always have. Generally it get serious when the security apparatus joins. Fat pigs feasting vs risking your life... Sooner or later the best option become slaughtering the pigs while hoping not to become them.
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I never said that my informants were not good people.  Generally speaking they were/are fine people.  One can be thoroughly indoctrinated and still be a good person, and indeed, sacrificing oneself 'for the greater good' can be argued to be quite a 'good' thing.

One of my current interests is in trying to figure out the intricacies of indoctrination, conditioning, brainwashing...pick your term...  I am myself one of my chief informants.  Certainly I was subject to successful indoctrination via the state efforts (and others) and I'm sure I still 'suffer' from some of this.  Others of it I've untangled myself from.  And, to my credit, I was unusually resistant to a lot of it at a fairly early age for whatever set of reason.

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[Masha Sha]

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What is fun is that a group of people believe that Chinese citizens aren't interested by freedom and liberty. That they love to censored and told what to do or not...

I know from my personal conversations that a decent fraction of mainland Chinese support their government's stance on these kinds of things for the protection of society at large.  Or at least the perception of this (which is in my opinion somewhat valid given the realpolitik.)  My sense from my conversations is that this sentiment has been conditioned in from early childhood.
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However most chineses are good people, and you know without any warming one day, without anyone realizing it the cccp will fall. The good people of China will rise as they always have. Generally it get serious when the security apparatus joins. Fat pigs feasting vs risking your life... Sooner or later the best option become slaughtering the pigs while hoping not to become them.
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I never said that my informants were not good people.  Generally speaking they were/are fine people.  One can be thoroughly indoctrinated and still be a good person, and indeed, sacrificing oneself 'for the greater good' can be argued to be quite a 'good' thing.

One of my current interests is in trying to figure out the intricacies of indoctrination, conditioning, brainwashing...pick your term...  I am myself one of my chief informants.  Certainly I was subject to successful indoctrination via the state efforts (and others) and I'm sure I still 'suffer' from some of this.  Others of it I've untangled myself from.  And, to my credit, I was unusually resistant to a lot of it at a fairly early age for whatever set of reason.

Congratulations! The further away you get from the conditioning the more you see it...

[Balthazar]

I think we all know that Chinas' goverment was a little too totalitarianistic since always, so things like this shouldnt realy be a surprise...

It's a kind of tradition, maybe. But I'd say that modern socialist republic is far more democratic than any of the previous Chinese regimes. Including the so-called Republic of China aka Taiwan.

[liyueyue8964]

I think we all know that Chinas' goverment was a little too totalitarianistic since always, so things like this shouldnt realy be a surprise...

It's a kind of tradition, maybe. But I'd say that modern socialist republic is far more democratic than any of the previous Chinese regimes. Including the so-called Republic of China aka Taiwan.

totally bullshit, have a look what USSR did in the past !!!

[tvbcof]

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One of my current interests is in trying to figure out the intricacies of indoctrination, conditioning, brainwashing...pick your term...  I am myself one of my chief informants.  Certainly I was subject to successful indoctrination via the state efforts (and others) and I'm sure I still 'suffer' from some of this.  Others of it I've untangled myself from.  And, to my credit, I was unusually resistant to a lot of it at a fairly early age for whatever set of reason.

Congratulations! The further away you get from the conditioning the more you see it...

It's interesting, delightful, and horrifying.  I recommend it for those who can.

[Bitcoinsummoner]

Ow this is the worst thing that i saw right now. .their government was not good this is not good . because here in my country chinese people our teritory that we have a island near in japan that even the whole world saying that the island is was for philippines teritory not in china.
Almost fisher mens here are fear from china because they are still trying to depend the island from philipines even its already clear that island was our teritory..
Their government are sucks.. they are just lying i think about they will listening  what the world court decision..

[Masha Sha]

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One of my current interests is in trying to figure out the intricacies of indoctrination, conditioning, brainwashing...pick your term...  I am myself one of my chief informants.  Certainly I was subject to successful indoctrination via the state efforts (and others) and I'm sure I still 'suffer' from some of this.  Others of it I've untangled myself from.  And, to my credit, I was unusually resistant to a lot of it at a fairly early age for whatever set of reason.

Congratulations! The further away you get from the conditioning the more you see it...

It's interesting, delightful, and horrifying.  I recommend it for those who can.

Remember this when approaching the conditionned:



Good conditioning is most of the time internally integrated by the person. It becomes part of his identity. Furthermore it often has defense mechanisms in build with routines quick in as soon as the conditioning is attacked.

Rememeber the further away you get from conditioning the closer to Truth, reality and God you get... This is the path of your soul. You aren't walking alone no fear.

[tvbcof]

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One of my current interests is in trying to figure out the intricacies of indoctrination, conditioning, brainwashing...pick your term...  I am myself one of my chief informants.  Certainly I was subject to successful indoctrination via the state efforts (and others) and I'm sure I still 'suffer' from some of this.  Others of it I've untangled myself from.  And, to my credit, I was unusually resistant to a lot of it at a fairly early age for whatever set of reason.

Congratulations! The further away you get from the conditioning the more you see it...

It's interesting, delightful, and horrifying.  I recommend it for those who can.

Remember this when approaching the conditionned:

img]https://bittenbythefantasybug.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/10365568_477806255683648_2266292705547768994_o.jpg[/img]

Good conditioning is most of the time internally integrated by the person. It becomes part of his identity. Furthermore it often has defense mechanisms in build with routines quick in as soon as the conditioning is attacked.

Rememeber the further away you get from conditioning the closer to Truth, reality and God you get... This is the path of your soul. You aren't walking alone no fear.

Yes indeed!  If one feels an immediate pang of rage at the mention of something, there may well have been some conditioning involved.  Watch for it in oneself and others.

The trigger words 'God' and 'Christian' are several which have impacted me in the past.  I maintain my position as an atheist but for whatever reason my reaction to these two ideas is no longer a 'short sharp shock'.  This reaction seemed to have worn off rather than simply vanished, and some time actually pondering the sociological manifestations of religion generally seemed to have contributed to the wearing off effect.

I really noticed this phenomenon about 25 years ago when someone mentioned the Kennedy assassination.  I became immediately enraged or nearly so.  So much so that it caught my attention enough to really wonder if there might actually be something mysterious going on wrt conditioning.  I've always been a fan of alternate theories/hypotheses due to my interest in science and never had a lot of trust in the authorities so I really should not have had this reaction organically.  Even back then.

[Masha Sha]

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One of my current interests is in trying to figure out the intricacies of indoctrination, conditioning, brainwashing...pick your term...  I am myself one of my chief informants.  Certainly I was subject to successful indoctrination via the state efforts (and others) and I'm sure I still 'suffer' from some of this.  Others of it I've untangled myself from.  And, to my credit, I was unusually resistant to a lot of it at a fairly early age for whatever set of reason.

Congratulations! The further away you get from the conditioning the more you see it...

It's interesting, delightful, and horrifying.  I recommend it for those who can.

Remember this when approaching the conditionned:

img]https://bittenbythefantasybug.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/10365568_477806255683648_2266292705547768994_o.jpg[/img]

Good conditioning is most of the time internally integrated by the person. It becomes part of his identity. Furthermore it often has defense mechanisms in build with routines quick in as soon as the conditioning is attacked.

Rememeber the further away you get from conditioning the closer to Truth, reality and God you get... This is the path of your soul. You aren't walking alone no fear.

Yes indeed!  If one feels an immediate pang of rage at the mention of something, there may well have been some conditioning involved.  Watch for it in oneself and others.

The trigger words 'God' and 'Christian' are several which have impacted me in the past.  I maintain my position as an atheist but for whatever reason my reaction to these two ideas is no longer a 'short sharp shock'.  This reaction seemed to have worn off rather than simply vanished, and some time actually pondering the sociological manifestations of religion generally seemed to have contributed to the wearing off effect.

I really noticed this phenomenon about 25 years ago when someone mentioned the Kennedy assassination.  I became immediately enraged or nearly so.  So much so that it caught my attention enough to really wonder if there might actually be something mysterious going on wrt conditioning.  I've always been a fan of alternate theories/hypotheses due to my interest in science and never had a lot of trust in the authorities so I really should not have had this reaction organically.  Even back then.

To see it in oneself is a sign of great awareness... I am far from it, or too unconditionable .

[Balthazar]

Ten minutes long speech about Bolsheviks:

https://youtu.be/7YIcMrcihvU

[Sponsoredby15]

Probably yes, they are son of a bitch. Why? Because they have a greedy mindset. There gods is their money. They only want power in their life. God we need to destroy them. They have no heart. They kill species animal and dogs to have money.

[liyueyue8964]

WE NEED REVOLUTION

[groll]

Yes China.  The country where people were so cruel with animals.  They eat almost everything.  From fetuses, loyal dogs, and gentle giant whales.  I do not know why do they eat everything.  Their beliefs were out of this world.  Fake foods were manufactured their.  Everything were duplicated or copied. They even claiming lands that are not really owned by them. 

[liyueyue8964]

Yes China.  The country where people were so cruel with animals.  They eat almost everything.  From fetuses, loyal dogs, and gentle giant whales.  I do not know why do they eat everything.  Their beliefs were out of this world.  Fake foods were manufactured their.  Everything were duplicated or copied. They even claiming lands that are not really owned by them.  

some lands which you talk about really belong to china, not to PRC, but to ROC (Taiwan)


some lands  Mao Zedong gave out to Vietnam as a gift, this mother fucker was really a bullshit

[DaftAjax]

China is the worst ways of governance so far. They don't preserve they just use and use and use and never renew what they have taken, because for them Money is all that matters, they thought that if they have so much money they could do anything they want. Their government takes no action in taking care of its people, they just do they thought was right, even if sacrificing even the most precious things on their land. Their GREEDINESS is what have made them now.

[liyueyue8964]

China is the worst ways of governance so far. They don't preserve they just use and use and use and never renew what they have taken, because for them Money is all that matters, they thought that if they have so much money they could do anything they want. Their government takes no action in taking care of its people, they just do they thought was right, even if sacrificing even the most precious things on their land. Their GREEDINESS is what have made them now.

exactly..

on the other side, western world in recent years plays much more  appeasement policy than ever on china issue keeping one eye closed only for economic motivation

[XbladeX]

USSR murdered about 20 mil of people who were against system,
they have work camps in syberia where people have nothing to eat.
North Korea have such camps all time if look at China those people are saints.
But China is communism country so what you espect freedom there so far outside China
don't bring death like USA and Russia do in middle east or kaukaz.