Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments

[RAJSALLIN]

Question: When selling Byteballs (that I got from airdrops) using the chatbot aren't the corresponding bitcoins received very anonymous? If this is the case that actually adds some more value to byteballs since the airdropps can be used as mixers in a sense. Am I totally wrong here? I'm obv not asking this since I'm looking to do bad stuff I'm asking since I see added anonymous value in the process.

[pxrunes]

Question: When selling Byteballs (that I got from airdrops) using the chatbot aren't the corresponding bitcoins received very anonymous? If this is the case that actually adds some more value to byteballs since the airdropps can be used as mixers in a sense. Am I totally wrong here? I'm obv not asking this since I'm looking to do bad stuff I'm asking since I see added anonymous value in the process.

yes. also you do not need to pair up with your trading partner anymore. Only one connection (to freebe for example) is necessary. Although some people might find add that the exchange now knows several peers who are exchanging blackbytes.
But it should also be added that the exchange does not have much information (not even your IP adress or anything). Although blackbytes can not be tracked ones they left the own wallet.

I want to change Blackbytes against €uros. The detour via Bytes is far too costly.

What costs? The transaction fees are minimal. The exchange rate is not really a cost its the ratio or price of blackbytes and would be the same on euro exchanges.

[Seeder]

I want to change Blackbytes against €uros. The detour via Bytes is far too costly.

What costs? The transaction fees are minimal. The exchange rate is not really a cost its the ratio or price of blackbytes and would be the same on euro exchanges.

I can't expect my customers to change their €uros to Bitcoin first, then to Bytes and Bytes to Blackbytes.

Please focus a little more on reality. 

[pxrunes]

I want to change Blackbytes against €uros. The detour via Bytes is far too costly.

What costs? The transaction fees are minimal. The exchange rate is not really a cost its the ratio or price of blackbytes and would be the same on euro exchanges.

I can't expect my customers to change their €uros to Bitcoin first, then to Bytes and Bytes to Blackbytes.

Please focus a little more on reality. 

Sorry i actually don't know what you are trying to do. But if you have customers and they want blackbytes for euros, why dont you just sell them blackbytes for euroes? You could buy them for bytes/bitcoins, not to much trouble, is it?

But sure i agree whould be cool to have blackbytes/bytes on an euro exchange. but this will definitifly not happen with blackbytes because of its private asset nature.

[Freefactomizer]

Demand for Moneros (and thus the market value) increased as some Darknet markets decided to accept Moneros as a means of payment.

blackbytes are too unwieldy to use. i like the idea but the manual pairing thing and backup needed every time isn't practical. it needs to be smoother to use.

If you use a multidevice wallet, your wallet data are replicated on 2 or more devices. So you always have a backup up-to-date as long as you didn't lose all your devices.

[Seeder]

I want to change Blackbytes against €uros. The detour via Bytes is far too costly.

What costs? The transaction fees are minimal. The exchange rate is not really a cost its the ratio or price of blackbytes and would be the same on euro exchanges.

I can't expect my customers to change their €uros to Bitcoin first, then to Bytes and Bytes to Blackbytes.

Please focus a little more on reality. 

Sorry i actually don't know what you are trying to do. But if you have customers and they want blackbytes for euros, why dont you just sell them blackbytes for euroes? You could buy them for bytes/bitcoins, not to much trouble, is it?

But sure i agree whould be cool to have blackbytes/bytes on an euro exchange. but this will definitifly not happen with blackbytes because of its private asset nature.

There are indeed traders who want to sell normal goods. 
I would like to sell them against Blackbytes, but of course my customers have to be able to buy them themselves with as little energy as possible.

Blackbytes should allow easy automatic pairing via a P2P trading platform, similar to BISQ.
So it would be possible to exchange blackbytes for €uro, USD... directly.

[ekoja]

Hey, I'd like to sell 2,5 GBB. Actually I wanted to held them but I need ETH, so I'd sell them if anyone is interested. PM please

Using an exchange is probably your fastest and safest way.  Or a converter like shapeshift or changelly.

Good idea, if blackbytes would be on exchanges 

There is www.beeb-bot.com

How about a bot capable of exchanging Bytes and Blackbytes for Fiat? How this works can be seen in BISQ (https://bisq.network).

Defo more options for blackbytes needed. Monero has done very well due to its anonymity features. Blackbytes could do well also given more options for people to trade. From what i see we dont yet have byteballs anywhere but bittrex and couple other small exchanges.

I agree.

Changing from Blackbytes to Fiat is only possible with P2P.
However, it would now be urgently necessary to offer such a possibility.
Another important step would be the approach to a decentralized marketplace like "Open Bazaar". It should be able to pay directly with Blackbytes.

Demand for Moneros (and thus the market value) increased as some Darknet markets decided to accept Moneros as a means of payment.

How to trade Blackbytes to FIAT? Is it technically feasible?
You know China closed the exchanges and the P2P between crypto coins and FIAT is demanded.

[innergy]

So.. how this "lets-make-the-rich-bastards-richer" coin is going?
Let me be clear - I won't buy something that others get for free.. in case if you're wondering why the volume on exchanges is so low

[.cryptic.]

Hey, I'd like to sell 2,5 GBB. Actually I wanted to held them but I need ETH, so I'd sell them if anyone is interested. PM please

Using an exchange is probably your fastest and safest way.  Or a converter like shapeshift or changelly.

Good idea, if blackbytes would be on exchanges 

There is www.beeb-bot.com

How about a bot capable of exchanging Bytes and Blackbytes for Fiat? How this works can be seen in BISQ (https://bisq.network).

Defo more options for blackbytes needed. Monero has done very well due to its anonymity features. Blackbytes could do well also given more options for people to trade. From what i see we dont yet have byteballs anywhere but bittrex and couple other small exchanges.

I agree.

Changing from Blackbytes to Fiat is only possible with P2P.
However, it would now be urgently necessary to offer such a possibility.
Another important step would be the approach to a decentralized marketplace like "Open Bazaar". It should be able to pay directly with Blackbytes.

Demand for Moneros (and thus the market value) increased as some Darknet markets decided to accept Moneros as a means of payment.

How to trade Blackbytes to FIAT? Is it technically feasible?
You know China closed the exchanges and the P2P between crypto coins and FIAT is demanded.

The only way to do is by trading blackbytes to bytes and then bytes to bitcoin and then to fiat. There are couple of trading bots available for trading blackbytes to bytes.

[ByteFan]

[reminder]

Announcing BEEB - Blackbytes Escrow Exchange Bot - web front end.

Instant-buy and sell batches of Blackbytes 24h/24h, 7 days a week.
(you don't need to find a peer anymore: the bot is the peer!)
Trading blackbytes on BEEB is anonymous.

http://www.beeb-bot.com

Includes:
Blackbytes price and volume graphical history,
24h volume,
current best ask,
detailed help menu,
API interface to Blackbytes prices and market history.


Support: https://byteball.slack.com/ #beeb channel

[Seeder]

Hey, I'd like to sell 2,5 GBB. Actually I wanted to held them but I need ETH, so I'd sell them if anyone is interested. PM please

Using an exchange is probably your fastest and safest way.  Or a converter like shapeshift or changelly.

Good idea, if blackbytes would be on exchanges  

There is www.beeb-bot.com

How about a bot capable of exchanging Bytes and Blackbytes for Fiat? How this works can be seen in BISQ (https://bisq.network).

Defo more options for blackbytes needed. Monero has done very well due to its anonymity features. Blackbytes could do well also given more options for people to trade. From what i see we dont yet have byteballs anywhere but bittrex and couple other small exchanges.

I agree.

Changing from Blackbytes to Fiat is only possible with P2P.
However, it would now be urgently necessary to offer such a possibility.
Another important step would be the approach to a decentralized marketplace like "Open Bazaar". It should be able to pay directly with Blackbytes.

Demand for Moneros (and thus the market value) increased as some Darknet markets decided to accept Moneros as a means of payment.

How to trade Blackbytes to FIAT? Is it technically feasible?

Surely this would be possible, even if some people here constantly claim that this is not possible.

BISQ shows how it works. Only some modifications for blackbytes are needed.

Edit:
@ innergy
As soon as this currency has a utility value, it is also in demand (see DASH and Monero).
Keywords:
- Open Bazaar
- Changing Bytes/Blackbytes directly to €uro, USD, .... (P2P, see BISQ)

[pxrunes]

(since my rank is to low you have to manually click the image above (its a chart!))

Time to celebrate!

Yesterday we reached two milestones at ones at #freebe! We now have >1000 users and >10.000 GBB total volume exchanged! Thats amazing thanks to the whole community for your trust!


Here are the current statistics from #freebe:

• 24h volume: 244 GBB
• Last Trade: 100 GBB at: 0.0298

• Best Ask: 0.0398
• Best BID: 0.03
• Total GBB wanted: 7209
• Total GBB for sale: 1015

As usual pairing information and live data available at: http://freebe.byte-ball.com

[Casmatesid]

https://i.imgur.com/dE7rSSw.png

(since my rank is to low you have to manually click the image above (its a chart!))

Time to celebrate!

Yesterday we reached two milestones at ones at #freebe! We now have >1000 users and >10.000 GBB total volume exchanged! Thats amazing thanks to the whole community for your trust!


Here are the current statistics from #freebe:

• 24h volume: 244 GBB
• Last Trade: 100 GBB at: 0.0298

• Best Ask: 0.0398
• Best BID: 0.03
• Total GBB wanted: 7209
• Total GBB for sale: 1015

As usual pairing information and live data available at: http://freebe.byte-ball.com

That is great news.

[hush]

I saw this coin being traded at over 0.35 BTC once but succeeded to buy some now and have them in my wallet. It seems very promising and potential is huge seeing all the activities and work going on. We should expect the results in few months by mid of the next year as cryptocurrencies are picking up pace right now.

[Hyena]

So.. how this "lets-make-the-rich-bastards-richer" coin is going?
Let me be clear - I won't buy something that others get for free.. in case if you're wondering why the volume on exchanges is so low

Great! Let's keep the communist scum out of this project.

[ztalker]

Its one of my favorite alts, but i think that massive airdrop to the bitcoin holders was mistake - its trying to find pricebottom but slightly still going downside. Technicals crying for a bounce.

Without any news positive news from outside it will be sliding more IMHO.

[chicobr]

So.. how this "lets-make-the-rich-bastards-richer" coin is going?
Let me be clear - I won't buy something that others get for free.. in case if you're wondering why the volume on exchanges is so low

it's not free for everybody. it's free for who hold bitcoin. who have money and know how to control it. not for noob who will dump all their free coin

[garytheasshole]

Its one of my favorite alts, but i think that massive airdrop to the bitcoin holders was mistake - its trying to find pricebottom but slightly still going downside. Technicals crying for a bounce.

Without any news positive news from outside it will be sliding more IMHO.

So what, let it slide, buy it cheap. If you really believe in the project and you're in it for the long run then just HODL and wait for value to come in naturally, at this time the price is purely speculative, pumping it with "positive news" only creates a bubble and opens opportunities for speculators and day traders.

[Michail1]

So.. how this "lets-make-the-rich-bastards-richer" coin is going?
Let me be clear - I won't buy something that others get for free.. in case if you're wondering why the volume on exchanges is so low

About the same as it has for the last 10 months.  Why would you ask?

Let me be clear - I don't see that anyone asked you to buy them.

I remember people having the same thoughts on Bitcoin.  I was telling friends 6 years ago to buy it, and like you, they said, "Why buy something that people can just mine for free?"

[ztalker]

So.. how this "lets-make-the-rich-bastards-richer" coin is going?
Let me be clear - I won't buy something that others get for free.. in case if you're wondering why the volume on exchanges is so low

About the same as it has for the last 10 months.  Why would you ask?

Let me be clear - I don't see that anyone asked you to buy them.

I remember people having the same thoughts on Bitcoin.  I was telling friends 6 years ago to buy it, and like you, they said, "Why buy something that people can just mine for free?"

Nope you didnt get it.
I will buy what i like - but if price is very much long downtrend then people will not use it, its too dangerous to accept some paymen - you need to sell as fast as you can - what makes more pressure to the price etc.