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November 01, 2018, 07:48:17 PM
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Dear useless trolls,

Maybe you should read carefully the How to Read from Ezra Pound and translate the subject to marketing, branding, development, distribution models and so on. Domains where each one of you pretends to be an expert.

And no, I will not lose my time answering to people out of context.

See you in hell.
I know you'd rather spend your time sending this project to hell.

Do you feel targeted ? Wink
What you were trying to suggest with your fake quote, wasn't it?  Roll Eyes
You decontextualized my words to troll me when you quoted me, I put the context on light with the full quote. And I suggest nothing, you suggest it yourself by your childish behavior.
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November 01, 2018, 08:08:23 PM
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The Byteball ICO website will be launching shortly.

But just to clarify: it's a website to better showcase how the Byteball platform is ideal for running an ICO. Byteball will not be having its own ICO!

Do you have any source or where did you get this information? Are you a member of the team? No offense for the skeptical questions, but you're a pretty new user.
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November 01, 2018, 09:12:47 PM
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I would like to encourage all remaining critics to raise their voices clearly. This is the only way to turn the tide and finish the endless series of wrong decisions.

You should finally be taken seriously.

This continued arrogance and ignorance on the part of management and development must stop. This aloof faction does not orient itself to the needs of the users, but rather indulges in its own narcissism.

The submissive sectarians here are certainly not a solution but the main cause of the problem. They are only promoting the regime of their autocratic dictator.

We need a roadmap that will be worked out in dialogue with you.
What we don't need is a permanent farce that will be stuck over us bit by bit.
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November 01, 2018, 09:52:14 PM
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I would like to encourage all remaining critics to raise their voices clearly. This is the only way to turn the tide and finish the endless series of wrong decisions.

You should finally be taken seriously.

This continued arrogance and ignorance on the part of management and development must stop. This aloof faction does not orient itself to the needs of the users, but rather indulges in its own narcissism.

The submissive sectarians here are certainly not a solution but the main cause of the problem. They are only promoting the regime of their autocratic dictator.

We need a roadmap that will be worked out in dialogue with you.
What we don't need is a permanent farce that will be stuck over us bit by bit.

Management?! Sounds like union speak.

IMO your continued arrogance and ignorance in thinking you'll affect change must stop... or not. IDGAF about your whining.

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November 01, 2018, 10:51:55 PM
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I would like to encourage all remaining critics to raise their voices clearly. This is the only way to turn the tide and finish the endless series of wrong decisions.

You should finally be taken seriously.

This continued arrogance and ignorance on the part of management and development must stop. This aloof faction does not orient itself to the needs of the users, but rather indulges in its own narcissism.

The submissive sectarians here are certainly not a solution but the main cause of the problem. They are only promoting the regime of their autocratic dictator.

We need a roadmap that will be worked out in dialogue with you.
What we don't need is a permanent farce that will be stuck over us bit by bit.

I agree with you on a point, Byteball team has to improve its communication and they are working on it. But Rome wasn't build in a day.

I'm pretty sure that Anton and the Byteball team see all your comments but your negative tonality don't deserve answer. Try to be polite instead of using despicable words like arrogance, ignorance, narcissism, submissives, sectarians, autocratic or dictator because this don't encourage dialogue. It's offensive.

Try to moderate yourself because nobody will do that for you and you could be certainly more useful if only you used your energy promoting Byteball instead of propagating negativity.
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The submissive sectarians here are certainly not a solution but the main cause of the problem.



I have said exactly this time and time again.

So many have seen the error of their ways now regarding supporting such an insane distributional method knowing full well huge swathes were going to the ico managers of competing projects.

Also not following through with the full moons after many investors bought on that premise.

Not listening to the community many times on many different issues.

I am still collecting this project even now because I do not think all is lost but tonych must react quickly and show willing to at least engage the community rather than just ignoring posts he does not agree with.

The project should be 100M or even 500M  now with a few tweaks and some community cohesion and belief.

Still all of this has been good for accumulating lots of byteball at a very low rate. Small risk now in terms of loss but lots of possible upside.

We will see. Hopefully lots of incoming progress that will turn things around.

Thing is Tonych works very hard compared to most devs and is of course smarter than 99% of other devs too.

Needs to  be more of a team player than lone wolf. Community and trust is important to gain the network effect that is lacking here.

At its current cap though it has to be one of the top 5 bets available out there.

Anyway we will see. Hope for the best for byteball anyway.


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November 02, 2018, 07:34:32 AM
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It's a real pity. The project could become something big, but the direction taken makes me pessimistic.
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November 02, 2018, 08:13:45 AM
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It's a real pity. The project could become something big, but the direction taken makes me pessimistic.

Everyone here already knows that you think so, no need to keep announcing that. Do something useful for Byteball or sell your coins.
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November 02, 2018, 08:45:53 AM
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Thing is Tonych works very hard compared to most devs and is of course smarter than 99% of other devs too.

Needs to  be more of a team player than lone wolf. Community and trust is important to gain the network effect that is lacking here.


And what are you basing this opinion on? Do you have first hand experience working with Tony or you just like to speculate and talk how things should be?

My experience as developer has been totally different with Tony. Never considered him as lone wolf and he delegates lot of work to other people, even when it seems like he is doing everything.

Also, never felt that he doesn't trust people, so I don't get where you get this from. I guess trust is a two-way street, after a while you give up explaining why some things are the way they are (12 non-anonymous witnesses), especially when some of the stuff argued here are documented multiple times over and over.

There are plenty of people with their own opinion how things should be in cryptoverse. None of the projects need people like that, only people who make things happening are needed.
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I would like to encourage all remaining critics to raise their voices clearly. This is the only way to turn the tide and finish the endless series of wrong decisions.

You should finally be taken seriously.

This continued arrogance and ignorance on the part of management and development must stop. This aloof faction does not orient itself to the needs of the users, but rather indulges in its own narcissism.

The submissive sectarians here are certainly not a solution but the main cause of the problem. They are only promoting the regime of their autocratic dictator.

We need a roadmap that will be worked out in dialogue with you.
What we don't need is a permanent farce that will be stuck over us bit by bit.

I agree with you on a point, Byteball team has to improve its communication and they are working on it. But Rome wasn't build in a day.

I'm pretty sure that Anton and the Byteball team see all your comments but your negative tonality don't deserve answer. Try to be polite instead of using despicable words like arrogance, ignorance, narcissism, submissives, sectarians, autocratic or dictator because this don't encourage dialogue. It's offensive.

Try to moderate yourself because nobody will do that for you and you could be certainly more useful if only you used your energy promoting Byteball instead of propagating negativity.
You never listen to us.
Just some facts
Bitcoin & bytebal airdrops:
1. people joined such as: Marc De Mesel, Richard Heart, Kaiserex, Milan enthusiast, @neversaynever, @seb, @pxrunes, Rogier Eijkelhof. Very small part of what i can remember. And thousands of not so publicly but still active people. Check first pages of this and russian threads.
‏2. have placed gbyte in top 40.
3. created one of the largest communities in the altcoin space (check the first pages, early slack).
4. listing to one of the biggest altcoin exchange at that times (bitrex).
5. created one of the largest hype in the altcoin space.
5. a) created liquidity, without which adoption is impossible.
6. added hundreds of merchants in Milano
simple, unrelated questions:
 Why did you cancel airdrop, if you could just reduce the volume?
 Do you think steam bots, bitcointalk shitposters, twitter reposters added more value than early followers which came here from bitcoin airdrop? Do you even count it in some way? Or you just turned on the crazy mode and follow your paranoik advisors?
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November 02, 2018, 09:24:17 AM
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I would like to encourage all remaining critics to raise their voices clearly. This is the only way to turn the tide and finish the endless series of wrong decisions.

You should finally be taken seriously.

This continued arrogance and ignorance on the part of management and development must stop. This aloof faction does not orient itself to the needs of the users, but rather indulges in its own narcissism.

The submissive sectarians here are certainly not a solution but the main cause of the problem. They are only promoting the regime of their autocratic dictator.

We need a roadmap that will be worked out in dialogue with you.
What we don't need is a permanent farce that will be stuck over us bit by bit.

I agree with you on a point, Byteball team has to improve its communication and they are working on it. But Rome wasn't build in a day.

I'm pretty sure that Anton and the Byteball team see all your comments but your negative tonality don't deserve answer. Try to be polite instead of using despicable words like arrogance, ignorance, narcissism, submissives, sectarians, autocratic or dictator because this don't encourage dialogue. It's offensive.

Try to moderate yourself because nobody will do that for you and you could be certainly more useful if only you used your energy promoting Byteball instead of propagating negativity.
You never listen to us.
Just some facts
Bitcoin & bytebal airdrops:
1. people joined such as: Marc De Mesel, Richard Heart, Kaiserex, Milan enthusiast, @neversaynever, @seb, @pxrunes, Rogier Eijkelhof. Very small part of what i can remember. And thousands of not so publicly but still active people. Check first pages of this and russian threads.
‏2. have placed gbyte in top 40.
3. created one of the largest communities in the altcoin space (check the first pages, early slack).
4. listing to one of the biggest altcoin exchange at that times (bitrex).
5. created one of the largest hype in the altcoin space.
5. a) created liquidity, without which adoption is impossible.
6. added hundreds of merchants in Milano
simple question:
 Why did you cancel airdrop, if you could just reduce the volume?
 Do you think steam bots, bitcointalk shitposters, twitter reposters added more value than early followers which came here from bitcoin airdrop? Do you even count it in some way? Or you just turned on the crazy mode and follow your paranoik advisors without own thinking?

Seriously? Reasons why it was cancelled has been told many time over and over again. Here, you can read it yourself https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1608859.msg30564528#msg30564528
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November 02, 2018, 09:28:52 AM
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You never listen to us.
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That's right!
I have already argued with angels' tongues and tried to lead the project in an important direction... you don't even get an answer.

At some point it's enough and you just have to get clearer.
Most critics probably showed less perseverance and have left the sinking ship for a long time.
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November 02, 2018, 09:36:31 AM
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You never listen to us.
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That's right!
I have already argued with angels' tongues and tried to lead the project in an important direction... you don't even get an answer.

At some point it's enough and you just have to get clearer. Most critics probably showed less perseverance and have left the sinking ship for a long time.

This also goes both ways. You explain people why Bitcoin airdrop was not good enough, but still get questions like "But, why cancel airdrops?".
Same thing with 12 witnesses, no matter how many times it has been explained why anonymous witnesses won't work, but nobody listens, still get questions like "But why not random 12 witnesses from a pool of unlimited number of anonymous witnesses?".

So, who is not listening who?
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Seriously? Reasons why it was cancelled has been told many time over and over again. Here, you can read it yourself https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1608859.msg30564528#msg30564528
But last few airdrops failed to attract any significant number of new users while quickly consuming the undistributed pool

- The goal is not only to attract, but also to keep existing community. Saving existing community in the network without use cases and airdrops! How? Tony did you even think about it?
- The last few airdrops is not a representative sample to make conclusions, especially when the results of actions based on these findings may entail the death of the nascent community.
- Why it was impossible to make a soft decision and instead of cancelling only reduce the volume?

side note. You throw links, the content of which you not tried to accept critically. In trying to show me the obvious. You have not answered to any of my questions. As a sectarian following the leader blindly.
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Seriously? Reasons why it was cancelled has been told many time over and over again. Here, you can read it yourself https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1608859.msg30564528#msg30564528
But last few airdrops failed to attract any significant number of new users while quickly consuming the undistributed pool

- The goal is not only to attract, but also to keep existing community. Saving existing community in the network without use cases! How? Tony did you even think about it?
- The last few airdrops is not a representative sample to make conclusions, especially when the results of actions based on these findings may entail the death of the nascent community.
- Why it was impossible to make a soft decision and instead of cancelling only reduce the volume?
side note. You throw links, the content of which you not tried to accept critically. In trying to show me the obvious. You have not answered to any of my questions. As a sectarian following the leader blindly.

Of course, makes total sense, if somebody agrees with something then they must be just following blindly because it is not possible that anybody than me has brain and could have their own thoughts Tongue
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Seriously? Reasons why it was cancelled has been told many time over and over again. Here, you can read it yourself https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1608859.msg30564528#msg30564528
But last few airdrops failed to attract any significant number of new users while quickly consuming the undistributed pool

- The goal is not only to attract, but also to keep existing community. Saving existing community in the network without use cases! How? Tony did you even think about it?
- The last few airdrops is not a representative sample to make conclusions, especially when the results of actions based on these findings may entail the death of the nascent community.
- Why it was impossible to make a soft decision and instead of cancelling only reduce the volume?
side note. You throw links, the content of which you not tried to accept critically. In trying to show me the obvious. You have not answered to any of my questions. As a sectarian following the leader blindly.

Of course, makes total sense, if somebody agrees with something then they must be just following blindly because it is not possible that anybody than me has brain and could have their own thoughts Tongue
it is not so much about consent, but about the rejection of reality. The case against was not considered and the community was destroyed. Now there is no community, no merchants, price destroyed. You right, agreeing with someone does not mean being a sectarian. Being a sectarian means following the leader even when everyone around see an alternate reality.
The truth sounds on almost every page of this topic in the past 8 months: removing the only initiative of be a ball holder, Tony did not provide a qualitative alternative. If Tony had not been so harsh, he would have understood that without use cases community will collapse without airdrops. Because there are alternatives on the market that have either use cases, or holding initiatives, or both. Airdrop was a glue, keeping the community together and making it productive, until the real use cases will not cover the majority of the community.
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November 02, 2018, 10:23:25 AM
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Hardcore sectarians are generally not capable of critical, creative and differentiated dialogue. Discussions with these religious zealots usually lead nowhere.
Switching on the ignore filter would make sense and would also prevent this thread from being spammed with useless discussions.

Let us hope that the critical spirits of the past will find their way back here and will now be more offensive.
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Thing is Tonych works very hard compared to most devs and is of course smarter than 99% of other devs too.

Needs to  be more of a team player than lone wolf. Community and trust is important to gain the network effect that is lacking here.


And what are you basing this opinion on? Do you have first hand experience working with Tony or you just like to speculate and talk how things should be?

My experience as developer has been totally different with Tony. Never considered him as lone wolf and he delegates lot of work to other people, even when it seems like he is doing everything.

Also, never felt that he doesn't trust people, so I don't get where you get this from. I guess trust is a two-way street, after a while you give up explaining why some things are the way they are (12 non-anonymous witnesses), especially when some of the stuff argued here are documented multiple times over and over.

There are plenty of people with their own opinion how things should be in cryptoverse. None of the projects need people like that, only people who make things happening are needed.


I have first hand experience on telling him 100x at the start of this project not to knowingly allow huge swathes of this to go for free into the hands of other ico mangers

Sadly now these competitors had huge bags of free byteball we had to stop the airdrops to those that INVESTED in buying byteball on the basis of getting the free airdrops. This destroyed trust further.

I have seen multiple people call for a change in the exchange unit to megabyte so that the huge group of people that are under the impression that byteball was too expensive to risk investing so went with the far cheaper iota.

I leave the design to the experts like tony. The obvious things that damage the project that could be changed quite simply he does not listen to at all.

"There are plenty of people with their own opinion how things should be in cryptoverse. None of the projects need people like that, only people who make things happening are needed"

Wrong again. The plenty are always needed in some way else you will get no network effect a be relegated to page 10 on cmc.

You simply need a leadership who can bring the plenty around to their way of thinking. On the deeper technical aspects it is not essential the plenty understand what is beyond their scope. However on other more straight forward matters discussion is required to build a strong community. Without that then it is highly unlikely you will get the network effect required to become relevant here. When a community feels it is ignored it will move away to other projects.

I like tony and he seems very honest and hardworking. He should employ a good community manager whom can interface with him and the community.


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I like tony and he seems very honest and hardworking. He should employ a good community manager whom can interface with him and the community.
This!
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Why We Are Integrating Ethereum into OpenBazaar
Oct 31, 2018
In a previous article we explained how we’re integrating Ethereum into OpenBazaar in addition to Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash and Zcash. In this article we want to talk about why we’re integrating Ethereum.

[...]
https://openbazaar.org/blog/why-we-are-integrating-ethereum-into-openbazaar/


Instead of Ethereum, bite ball would certainly have been more interesting.

Bite ball needs above all usability, so I pointed out this option several months ago. But at that time bite ball was still in the top 50.

But that doesn't matter. You can integrate the OpenBazaar concept completely within bite ball, as already mentioned several times.
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