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February 04, 2019, 12:41:06 PM
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Nice to know it's quiet here now  Cool

Obyte community no longer uses this thread, FYI, just Slack and Reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/obyte

Is there any reasonable explanation for this step? Of course, if it's an official statement.
I can understand for Reddit, but Slack?





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February 04, 2019, 01:14:01 PM
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Nice to know it's quiet here now  Cool

Obyte community no longer uses this thread, FYI, just Slack and Reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/obyte

Is there any reasonable explanation for this step? Of course, if it's an official statement.
I can understand for Reddit, but Slack?

I think someone has forgotten to update that spam bot. Officially, Obyte has moved from Slack to Discord with the rebranding https://www.reddit.com/r/obyte/comments/aix23f/please_sign_up_to_our_new_discord_community_our/
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February 04, 2019, 02:12:44 PM
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I think someone has forgotten to update that spam bot. Officially, Obyte has moved from Slack to Discord with the rebranding https://www.reddit.com/r/obyte/comments/aix23f/please_sign_up_to_our_new_discord_community_our/
After the rebranding process from Byteball to Obyte, I got it.
Byteball has fallen very significantly since its all time high last year, but it seems that it is general difficult of crypto, not only Obyte.
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February 05, 2019, 12:59:46 PM
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but it seems that it is general difficult of crypto, not only Obyte.
what is mean that obyte is not better other shit
You're wrong about that. They sell portable coolers in the Antarctic, while their competitors sell heavy refrigerators and freezers there.
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February 05, 2019, 02:16:00 PM
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this coin have one of the biggest community, it's really a Pity not on any major exchanges

how about binance?
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February 05, 2019, 03:51:28 PM
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this coin have one of the biggest community, it's really a Pity not on any major exchanges

how about binance?
Anyone could use BISQ without registration and KYC, then at least the volume would increase there. Furthermore one would have his money under constant own control. - Other Exchanges do not need serious users.

But of course you are right: Except for speculation, Zero-Byte is not usable.
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February 05, 2019, 04:29:06 PM
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this coin have one of the biggest community, it's really a Pity not on any major exchanges

how about binance?
Anyone could use BISQ without registration and KYC, then at least the volume would increase there. Furthermore one would have his money under constant own control. - Other Exchanges do not need serious users.

But of course you are right: Except for speculation, Zero-Byte is not usable.

No amount of new exchanges would make Obyte suddenly moon in bear market. When Bitcoin goes up, altcoins go up, when Bitcoin drops, altcoins drop even more.
Bittrex is one of the major exchanges and you don't need BISQ to buy bytes without KYC. Even Byte-BTC exchange bot in Obyte wallet has more volume than on BISQ for same pair.

For low-volume altcoins like Obyte, the biggest factor that affects the price is amount of people who are willing to dump the bytes at any price. If the buy wall is only as strong as 25GB then anybody with 100GB can make the price drop hard by just selling all at once. Now if you have more markets with even weaker buy walls then users have even more options where they can dump the price. There needs to be more demand before more exchanges.

Users who FUD the coins that they themselves hodl are the biggest mystery for me. I think that only happens in crypto-verse, haven't noticed any other investors doing something stupid as that.
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February 05, 2019, 05:23:09 PM
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this coin have one of the biggest community, it's really a Pity not on any major exchanges

how about binance?
Anyone could use BISQ without registration and KYC, then at least the volume would increase there. Furthermore one would have his money under constant own control. - Other Exchanges do not need serious users.

But of course you are right: Except for speculation, Zero-Byte is not usable.

the reason is simple there is nohype. and binance has long not added projects that do not bring they money. you can criticize for this but they are right. in this market there are very few real people who believe in the technology itself. and that means everyone only looks at money including cz.
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February 05, 2019, 06:30:48 PM
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Users who FUD the coins that they themselves hodl are the biggest mystery for me. I think that only happens in crypto-verse, haven't noticed any other investors doing something stupid as that.
"It's when the tide goes out that you find out who has been swimming naked," people cease to engage in self-deception when the essence of their bags becomes obvious
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February 05, 2019, 09:56:43 PM
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this coin have one of the biggest community, it's really a Pity not on any major exchanges

how about binance?
Anyone could use BISQ without registration and KYC, then at least the volume would increase there. Furthermore one would have his money under constant own control. - Other Exchanges do not need serious users.

But of course you are right: Except for speculation, Zero-Byte is not usable.

No amount of new exchanges would make Obyte suddenly moon in bear market. When Bitcoin goes up, altcoins go up, when Bitcoin drops, altcoins drop even more.
Bittrex is one of the major exchanges and you don't need BISQ to buy bytes without KYC. Even Byte-BTC exchange bot in Obyte wallet has more volume than on BISQ for same pair.

For low-volume altcoins like Obyte, the biggest factor that affects the price is amount of people who are willing to dump the bytes at any price. If the buy wall is only as strong as 25GB then anybody with 100GB can make the price drop hard by just selling all at once. Now if you have more markets with even weaker buy walls then users have even more options where they can dump the price. There needs to be more demand before more exchanges.

Users who FUD the coins that they themselves hodl are the biggest mystery for me. I think that only happens in crypto-verse, haven't noticed any other investors doing something stupid as that.
Decentralized crypto currencies (sure, Zero-Byte is not one of them) are of course only useful for decentralized exchanges. BISQ also offers the possibility to exchange BTC for Fiat (and vice versa) without KYC.

Those who use centralized exchanges, such as Bittrex, have not understood decentralized crypto currencies. Since even the developers don't understand this, one shouldn't be surprised that apart from speculators hardly anyone is interested in it.

The critics invested in Crypto do not spread FUD but facts that are uncomfortable for the echo chamber. It is logical that it is in their interest that "the team" should come to their senses.
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February 06, 2019, 12:14:42 AM
Last edit: February 06, 2019, 01:56:22 AM by tarmo888
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this coin have one of the biggest community, it's really a Pity not on any major exchanges

how about binance?
Anyone could use BISQ without registration and KYC, then at least the volume would increase there. Furthermore one would have his money under constant own control. - Other Exchanges do not need serious users.

But of course you are right: Except for speculation, Zero-Byte is not usable.

No amount of new exchanges would make Obyte suddenly moon in bear market. When Bitcoin goes up, altcoins go up, when Bitcoin drops, altcoins drop even more.
Bittrex is one of the major exchanges and you don't need BISQ to buy bytes without KYC. Even Byte-BTC exchange bot in Obyte wallet has more volume than on BISQ for same pair.

For low-volume altcoins like Obyte, the biggest factor that affects the price is amount of people who are willing to dump the bytes at any price. If the buy wall is only as strong as 25GB then anybody with 100GB can make the price drop hard by just selling all at once. Now if you have more markets with even weaker buy walls then users have even more options where they can dump the price. There needs to be more demand before more exchanges.

Users who FUD the coins that they themselves hodl are the biggest mystery for me. I think that only happens in crypto-verse, haven't noticed any other investors doing something stupid as that.
Decentralized crypto currencies (sure, Zero-Byte is not one of them) are of course only useful for decentralized exchanges. BISQ also offers the possibility to exchange BTC for Fiat (and vice versa) without KYC.

Those who use centralized exchanges, such as Bittrex, have not understood decentralized crypto currencies. Since even the developers don't understand this, one shouldn't be surprised that apart from speculators hardly anyone is interested in it.

The critics invested in Crypto do not spread FUD but facts that are uncomfortable for the echo chamber. It is logical that it is in their interest that "the team" should come to their senses.

Well, that is cute, but you can also find a person on LocalBitcoins to exchange cash to BTC, not that hard. There is nothing wrong using centralized exchanges if you don't keep your funds there at all times and send them immediately to your wallet that you have private keys. If you use anything else than "Face to face (in person)" payment method on BISQ then it is no way better than using centralized exchange and it is you who needs to come to your senses. If the payment method is centralized then it as bad as centralized exchange.

It is more safer for normal people to get their cryptocurrencies from centralized exchange than it is to meet somebody they don't know in real life, even if just want to exchange less than 1000usd worth. I hope that centralized exchange will be replaced with decentralized exchanges like BISQ, but we are not there yet and GBYTE volume on BISQ and Byte-BTC exchange bot clearly shows that.
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February 06, 2019, 08:33:33 AM
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Above all, it shows that "the team" constantly refuses to develop a real benefit that appeals to the only target group that really needs crypto currencies.

A topic which consistently bounces off the filter bubble. The tarmo commentary makes this all too clear again. The uncomfortable essence of the criticism is simply filtered out.
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February 06, 2019, 01:57:44 PM
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Above all, it shows that "the team" constantly refuses to develop a real benefit that appeals to the only target group that really needs crypto currencies.

A topic which consistently bounces off the filter bubble. The tarmo commentary makes this all too clear again. The uncomfortable essence of the criticism is simply filtered out.

Yeah, but maybe you are the one who don't see the big picture. The goal is a wide adoption, not just some black market niche, who already has plenty of options.

Eventually everybody will benefit from cryptocurrencies, even if they don't totally replace fiat currencies. The goal is not to replace fiat currencies either, the goal is to provide alternative, the more sound money than what we have today because of the central banks trend to get rid of cash.

If people would agree with you, you would have already found developers to build what you want others to build for you. If nobody wants to join you on this idea that you are trying to push then maybe you are just wrong?
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February 06, 2019, 04:09:58 PM
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Above all, it shows that "the team" constantly refuses to develop a real benefit that appeals to the only target group that really needs crypto currencies.

A topic which consistently bounces off the filter bubble. The tarmo commentary makes this all too clear again. The uncomfortable essence of the criticism is simply filtered out.

Yeah, but maybe you are the one who don't see the big picture. The goal is a wide adoption, not just some black market niche, who already has plenty of options.

Eventually everybody will benefit from cryptocurrencies, even if they don't totally replace fiat currencies. The goal is not to replace fiat currencies either, the goal is to provide alternative, the more sound money than what we have today because of the central banks trend to get rid of cash.

If people would agree with you, you would have already found developers to build what you want others to build for you. If nobody wants to join you on this idea that you are trying to push then maybe you are just wrong?
Obyte do nothing for wide adoption. Or obyte do something for wide adoption, but world don't need another "Ivan print own best money" altcoin. Every day some guy create a new altcoin for wide adoption, nobody cares about it. It looks like a psychiatric hospital with Napoleon's, beyond its borders no one knows about their existence. Obyte reddit even don't get a 100 subscribers  Grin. There is not a single payment processor receiving bytes after a 2 years of existence lol. What wide adoption are you talking
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February 06, 2019, 05:17:37 PM
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Obyte do nothing for wide adoption. Or obyte do something for wide adoption, but world don't need another "Ivan print own best money" altcoin. Every day some guy create a new altcoin for wide adoption, nobody cares about it. It looks like a psychiatric hospital with Napoleon's, beyond its borders no one knows about their existence. Obyte reddit even don't get a 100 subscribers  Grin. There is not a single payment processor receiving bytes after a 2 years of existence lol. What wide adoption are you talking

So, why are you here? Go buy some Bitcoin (you decide, which is the real one - BTC, BCH, BSV) and live happily ever after.
At least Obyte is different than most of the Bitcoin forks and tries to solve the problem with different technical solution and from different angle. Is it the right one, nobody knows yet, but time will tell, two years is nothing.

Less that 100 subscribers? I am not sure if you are trolling or really isn't aware that Obyte had to drop the old sub-reddit with rebranding and start with new because you can't rename sub-reddits.
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February 07, 2019, 05:51:20 AM
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Above all, it shows that "the team" constantly refuses to develop a real benefit that appeals to the only target group that really needs crypto currencies.

A topic which consistently bounces off the filter bubble. The tarmo commentary makes this all too clear again. The uncomfortable essence of the criticism is simply filtered out.

Yeah, but maybe you are the one who don't see the big picture. The goal is a wide adoption, not just some black market niche, who already has plenty of options.

Eventually everybody will benefit from cryptocurrencies, even if they don't totally replace fiat currencies. The goal is not to replace fiat currencies either, the goal is to provide alternative, the more sound money than what we have today because of the central banks trend to get rid of cash.

If people would agree with you, you would have already found developers to build what you want others to build for you. If nobody wants to join you on this idea that you are trying to push then maybe you are just wrong?
Obyte do nothing for wide adoption. Or obyte do something for wide adoption, but world don't need another "Ivan print own best money" altcoin. Every day some guy create a new altcoin for wide adoption, nobody cares about it. It looks like a psychiatric hospital with Napoleon's, beyond its borders no one knows about their existence. Obyte reddit even don't get a 100 subscribers  Grin. There is not a single payment processor receiving bytes after a 2 years of existence lol. What wide adoption are you talking

This guy is funny as  Cool

Posting on this forum is a waste of time. Post on reddit instead https://www.reddit.com/r/obyte
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February 07, 2019, 06:56:23 AM
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Above all, it shows that "the team" constantly refuses to develop a real benefit that appeals to the only target group that really needs crypto currencies.

A topic which consistently bounces off the filter bubble. The tarmo commentary makes this all too clear again. The uncomfortable essence of the criticism is simply filtered out.
Yeah, but maybe you are the one who don't see the big picture. The goal is a wide adoption, not just some black market niche, who already has plenty of options.
The growth of the market niche, which you refuse to serve, doubles annually.
For sure it's not me who doesn't see the big picture.
There is still no other target group.
Leave your Echo Chamber and finally arrive in reality.
Nobody is really interested in a coin that is as decentralized as a central bank.
There are therefore more trustworthy alternatives to cash.
Furthermore: (Zero-)Byte... the association... that is not money.
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February 07, 2019, 12:35:24 PM
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Can anyone tell me what the byteball ICOs are doing? Have I heard about some Titan coin?
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February 07, 2019, 01:01:31 PM
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Can anyone tell me what the byteball ICOs are doing? Have I heard about some Titan coin?

Maybe that is more appropriate topic for that question because this is Obyte annoncements topic, not Titan coin.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2378943.0
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February 07, 2019, 02:18:27 PM
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Can anyone tell me what the byteball ICOs are doing? Have I heard about some Titan coin?

Maybe that is more appropriate topic for that question because this is Obyte annoncements topic, not Titan coin.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2378943.0
It would be embarrassing if it was written here, wouldn't it?   Grin
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