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Author Topic: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments  (Read 1234267 times)
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February 20, 2019, 09:43:18 AM
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What is the max size of the single transaction you can create in Obyte? How long will it take to process a 100 Gb weight transaction? Will such a transaction be able to disable the nodes?
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February 20, 2019, 09:47:52 AM
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it will be necessary to understand more on your system. and your answer puts things in its place. as they say now, im now realized that im didnt understand anything. thanks for the answer.

You don't understand what is a meaning of toolbox? Did you try Google it? Obyte features are the tools, Obyte product is the toolbox with the tools. That's the full implementation.

Are you saying that it is easier to develop all these features with Solidity, instead of just using those features that are built into Obyte? What needs more understanding of the platform, using some features or building the whole KYC integration from scratch?
Obyte uses lot of same libraries (SHA256,RIPEMD160,BIP32,BIP39) as Bitcoin and Ethereum, but instead of some complicated programming language, it's using Node.js environment. Most of the client libraries for Ethereum are with Node.js anyways.
So, how exactly would be Obyte learning curve steeper than anything else? If you know the basics of Bitcoin or Ethereum, you will feel comfortable with Obyte, just the data structure and consensus are different.
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February 20, 2019, 10:04:47 AM
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What is the max size of the single transaction you can create in Obyte? How long will it take to process a 100 Gb weight transaction? Will such a transaction be able to disable the nodes?

I don't know all the limits, there are different limits depending on message type (posting a poll has stricter limits than posting text), but 100 GB is probably not possible because SQLite would not even able to insert that amount of data at once (max that SQLite query can handle is little over 1GB).
It will not disable the nodes, it will probably make the network slower as there is more data to sync.
Most of the bottlenecks are not network related bandwidth limits, but validating the units instead, which are because of un-optimized SQL queries.
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February 20, 2019, 10:16:33 AM
Last edit: February 20, 2019, 02:43:21 PM by Thul
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Note: If you do not understand the meaning of 0Byte, then it is your own fault, not 0Byte.  Grin
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February 20, 2019, 06:48:36 PM
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Real world adoption (how it looks Smiley ) https://medium.com/fluidity/factor-805-introducing-dai-into-security-tokens-a02a98f69cd9
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February 21, 2019, 12:16:45 AM
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Note: If you do not understand the meaning of 0Byte, then it is your own fault, not 0Byte.  Grin
Just a note too, it's Obyte not 0byte. Different, right? You should know the correct name first
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February 21, 2019, 07:34:35 AM
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Been a while since I've actually used Byteball. Just wondering if there are any use or markets yet for Blackbytes.

I remember there used to be a service which traded Blackbytes for regular GBytes at a 2% ratio or so. Wondering if that still exists.

I think I tried sending Blackbytes in the past but got some error, for some reason they can't be sent like regular Bytes and need to be sent a special way. Is there some tutorial which discusses on how to send these Blackbytes?
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February 21, 2019, 01:25:58 PM
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Been a while since I've actually used Byteball. Just wondering if there are any use or markets yet for Blackbytes.

I remember there used to be a service which traded Blackbytes for regular GBytes at a 2% ratio or so. Wondering if that still exists.

I think I tried sending Blackbytes in the past but got some error, for some reason they can't be sent like regular Bytes and need to be sent a special way. Is there some tutorial which discusses on how to send these Blackbytes?


Not sure what you mean by markets, but if you mean centralized exchanges like Coinbase, Bittrex or Binance then thank god there is none. Blackbytes should always be sent P2P without middleman, otherwise one entity could start tracking who sent coins to who when the same coins end up back to that entity. Blackbytes are not great for speculative trading because their history grows as it changes hands. Blackbytes should be used for privacy, not for speculative trading. Read more Tony's original idea before it was launched https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1574508.0

Blackbytes had BEEB bot and Freebe bot exchanges for quite some time, BEEB is closed now, but Freebe was recently bought by Marc de Mesel and is still alive https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/adi3mh/whale_buys_anonymous_blackbytes_byteball_exchange/

Blackbytes are not sent from wallet address to wallet address, they are sent from device to device and that was possible to do only via Obyte chat by pairing 2 devices, but since June 23th 2018, Blackbytes can also be sent on any other messaging platform (just make sure it's end-to-end encrypted) as textcoins https://medium.com/obyte/private-textcoins-6a2288d80757

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February 22, 2019, 09:20:56 AM
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Been a while since I've actually used Byteball. Just wondering if there are any use or markets yet for Blackbytes.

I remember there used to be a service which traded Blackbytes for regular GBytes at a 2% ratio or so. Wondering if that still exists.

I think I tried sending Blackbytes in the past but got some error, for some reason they can't be sent like regular Bytes and need to be sent a special way. Is there some tutorial which discusses on how to send these Blackbytes?


Not sure what you mean by markets, but if you mean centralized exchanges like Coinbase, Bittrex or Binance then thank god there is none. Blackbytes should always be sent P2P without middleman, otherwise one entity could start tracking who sent coins to who when the same coins end up back to that entity. Blackbytes are not great for speculative trading because their history grows as it changes hands. Blackbytes should be used for privacy, not for speculative trading. Read more Tony's original idea before it was launched https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1574508.0

Blackbytes had BEEB bot and Freebe bot exchanges for quite some time, BEEB is closed now, but Freebe was recently bought by Marc de Mesel and is still alive https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/adi3mh/whale_buys_anonymous_blackbytes_byteball_exchange/

Blackbytes are not sent from wallet address to wallet address, they are sent from device to device and that was possible to do only via Obyte chat by pairing 2 devices, but since June 23th 2018, Blackbytes can also be sent on any other messaging platform (just make sure it's end-to-end encrypted) as textcoins https://medium.com/obyte/private-textcoins-6a2288d80757



Quick one here. Obyte community no longer uses this thread, just Slack and Reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/obyte
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February 22, 2019, 02:03:13 PM
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There is a proposal about extending the Obyte protocol with timestamps
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1L5i0NNL2h7tgf-ZXo18ozHABSlciQUAE5x0ynV7FzyQ/edit

Your opinion is appreciated.

Simplicity is beauty
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February 22, 2019, 02:29:33 PM
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because it's not a same product as PayPal
what Obyte can offer to a legal merchant, that can't offer PayPal (visa, alipay, eth/dai and so on)?

You can view this video to get an idea how Obyte is superior to just plain payments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhNyD8Cj0dg

Simplicity is beauty
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February 23, 2019, 07:57:42 AM
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You can view this video to get an idea how Obyte is superior to just plain payments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhNyD8Cj0dg

The transaction speeds of Obyte is too fast, and transaction done smoothly without congested or delayed.
Furtheremore, the OByte can be use to bet directly.
It is very convenient altcoin.

 
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February 24, 2019, 03:36:33 AM
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You can view this video to get an idea how Obyte is superior to just plain payments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhNyD8Cj0dg

The transaction speeds of Obyte is too fast, and transaction done smoothly without congested or delayed.
Furtheremore, the OByte can be use to bet directly.
It is very convenient altcoin.

I couldn't agree more.  Cool

By the way, https://www.reddit.com/r/obyte is more informative than this thread.
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February 25, 2019, 02:09:53 PM
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There is a proposal about extending the Obyte protocol with timestamps
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1L5i0NNL2h7tgf-ZXo18ozHABSlciQUAE5x0ynV7FzyQ/edit

Your opinion is appreciated.

Love the concept and the idea of implementing the BIP format for further updates.
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February 26, 2019, 02:07:59 AM
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You can view this video to get an idea how Obyte is superior to just plain payments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhNyD8Cj0dg

Moreover, the topic, made by LoyceV presents informative details and explanation on Blackbyte:
Byteball: Blackbytes FAQ
Everyone who invested in Obyte, not invested yet but have interests, and have demand to use Blackbytes for transactions should know it.
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February 26, 2019, 11:46:44 AM
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You can view this video to get an idea how Obyte is superior to just plain payments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhNyD8Cj0dg

Moreover, the topic, made by LoyceV presents informative details and explanation on Blackbyte:
Byteball: Blackbytes FAQ
Everyone who invested in Obyte, not invested yet but have interests, and have demand to use Blackbytes for transactions should know it.

Can we continue our discussion here?
https://www.reddit.com/r/obyte/

 Cool
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February 26, 2019, 11:57:50 AM
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Can we continue our discussion here?
https://www.reddit.com/r/obyte/


By the way, https://www.reddit.com/r/obyte is more informative than this thread.


Why don't you just share the informations cointained in that "more informative" thread here? Why  cut out people following this thread?
Can't get what is wrong with discussing things here,

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February 26, 2019, 07:46:59 PM
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We expect to make two significant announcements within the next several weeks, one of which is a new exchange listing!

https://twitter.com/ObyteOrg/status/1100466684702396416

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February 27, 2019, 01:42:21 AM
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Can we continue our discussion here?
https://www.reddit.com/r/obyte/


By the way, https://www.reddit.com/r/obyte is more informative than this thread.


Why don't you just share the informations cointained in that "more informative" thread here? Why  cut out people following this thread?
Can't get what is wrong with discussing things here,

Thank you for still following this thread for the latest Obyte news. Apologies if you think I was trying to cut you off, twas not my intention.

You can also check the Reddit account for other news and updates not posted on this thread.

Cheers, mate!  Cool
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February 28, 2019, 04:50:49 AM
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BIoT milestone complete

Stage 1 of the BIoT project has been completed. Watch this short video showing how IoT payment channels can be opened using Obyte.
https://youtu.be/XCGgQ-Tgja0

See the code on Github.
https://github.com/BIoTws/biot_wallet

 Cool
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