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March 10, 2019, 06:33:38 PM
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If no investors nothing will help. Even hard fork will not help.

Does your educated opinion say something else?
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March 10, 2019, 06:44:55 PM
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If no investors nothing will help. Even hard fork will not help.

Does your educated opinion say something else?

What investors? There are already too many HODLers on Obyte who doesn't spend, just sit on their bytes. Obyte doesn't need investors right now, it didn't even need an ICO.

Yes, it needs witnesses who will also stay, so you can't bribe them with fees. Witnesses are not investors.

Obyte also needs developers and businesses who build more stuff using Obyte as a platform.
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March 10, 2019, 06:52:02 PM
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Doesn't your educated opinion say that these:
- witnesses
-"developers and businesses who build more stuff using Obyte as a platform"
are investors ?

Are they hobbists?
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March 10, 2019, 07:00:14 PM
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Doesn't your educated opinion say that these:
- witnesses
-"developers and businesses who build more stuff using Obyte as a platform"
are investors ?

Are they hobbists?

You have some fiat money in wallet? Are you automatically central bank investor or central bank hobbyist? Or you could also be just an user?
The uneducated opinion part was a reference to you not knowing how fees and witnesses work, but it seems now that you lack of vocabulary too.
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March 10, 2019, 07:17:12 PM
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They are investors.
They put something into it and expects to get something in return.

But if your educated opinion says something else then okay.
Let's say they are users.

Replace "investors" in my previous post that made you making off-topic with "investors and users".

Does it solve your naming problem?
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March 10, 2019, 09:26:54 PM
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If no investors nothing will help. Even hard fork will not help.

Does your educated opinion say something else?

There are already too many HODLers already on Obyte who doesn't spend, just sit on their bytes

Is there a list of places you can spend Obyte ?
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March 10, 2019, 09:42:36 PM
Last edit: March 10, 2019, 09:53:31 PM by tarmo888
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There are already too many HODLers on Obyte who doesn't spend, just sit on their bytes

Is there a list of places you can spend Obyte ?

Yes, it's in the app, it's called Bot Store.
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March 13, 2019, 01:19:18 AM
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Question... whatever happened to the TitanCoin token that was hyped as the first ICO on Byteball? I apparently have some tokens... did the project die? Huh

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March 13, 2019, 07:34:08 AM
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Question... whatever happened to the TitanCoin token that was hyped as the first ICO on Byteball? I apparently have some tokens... did the project die? Huh

interested too...
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March 13, 2019, 09:10:18 AM
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Question... whatever happened to the TitanCoin token that was hyped as the first ICO on Byteball? I apparently have some tokens... did the project die? Huh

interested too...


3 weeks ago one of my colleagues talked to the former marketing man:

"...they plan to launch ICO some time this year. They just tried to KYC/AML but no response from coin holders. Just several had done it."

My guess is that they wait for the bull market to kick in before starting their ICO.

Follow me on twitter! I'm a private Bitcoin and altcoin hodler. Giving away crypto for free on my Twitter feed!
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March 13, 2019, 05:11:55 PM
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Question... whatever happened to the TitanCoin token that was hyped as the first ICO on Byteball? I apparently have some tokens... did the project die? Huh

interested too...


3 weeks ago one of my colleagues talked to the former marketing man:

"...they plan to launch ICO some time this year. They just tried to KYC/AML but no response from coin holders. Just several had done it."

My guess is that they wait for the bull market to kick in before starting their ICO.
One more scam from the same people?

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Yes, it's in the app, it's called Bot Store.
What i can buy in Bot Store? I'm not a gambler and i don't need your insurance. I do not understand why you deny the obvious. Obyt has no use cases. It is not your personal fault. Most altcoins are not destined to reach adoption
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March 13, 2019, 06:10:57 PM
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Yes, it's in the app, it's called Bot Store.
What i can buy in Bot Store? I'm not a gambler and i don't need your insurance. I do not understand why you deny the obvious. Obyt has no use cases. It is not your personal fault. Most altcoins are not destined to reach adoption

So, because you are not into sports betting or insurance, it means that Obyte doesn't have any use cases? Cool logic.
Why do you even have bytes if you don't find any use for Obyte?
Do you often go to foreign countries and bitch there also that they don't accept your country currency?
What do you expect? That cryptocurrency with $25m marketcap, which is intended to be used on internet, becomes instantly accepted in a shop near you?

Buy Obyte bytes if you want to:
* do P2P sports betting.
* get P2P flight insurance.
* register your username or email, so people could send you bytes more easily.
* take part of weekly lottery draw where you just need to hold bytes, lottery where nobody loses their funds.
* attest your real name to get additional benefits from other bots.
* post polls and vote on polls.
* take part of other ICOs.
* create your own token.
* post data to DAG or write a script and become an oracle.
* buy private tokens and transact with those.
* buy at shops in Milan.

If you don't need to any of that, sell your bytes to currency that is accepted in places you want to shop. It is that simple.
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March 13, 2019, 10:46:17 PM
Last edit: March 13, 2019, 10:56:26 PM by afbitcoins
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I think I'm reaching capitulation point on this project. (Taking big losses on this punt). You don't need investors? Yeh probably not. You never valued them. But good luck, I always liked the tech. Shame it didn't work out for me; Maybe those who stick with it will win in the end
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March 13, 2019, 11:21:22 PM
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I think I'm reaching capitulation point on this project. (Taking big losses on this punt). You don't need investors? Yeh probably not. You never valued them. But good luck, I always liked the tech. Shame it didn't work out for me; Maybe those who stick with it will win in the end

Tell me this, what good is there from those "investors" who just sit on their bag? Where is the value in that?
There is no investors in crypto-space, just speculators. Investing is something else, investors actually support companies they invest into.
How exactly are you loosing money if the GBYTE/USD price has gone up last 3 months and GBYTE/BTC price is same as 6 months ago.
Which coin has performed better during last 3-6 months? BTC, BCH, ETH, XRP?
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March 14, 2019, 11:17:14 AM
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I think I'm reaching capitulation point on this project. (Taking big losses on this punt). You don't need investors? Yeh probably not. You never valued them. But good luck, I always liked the tech. Shame it didn't work out for me; Maybe those who stick with it will win in the end

Tell me this, what good is there from those "investors" who just sit on their bag? Where is the value in that?
There is no investors in crypto-space, just speculators. Investing is something else, investors actually support companies they invest into.
How exactly are you loosing money if the GBYTE/USD price has gone up last 3 months and GBYTE/BTC price is same as 6 months ago.
Which coin has performed better during last 3-6 months? BTC, BCH, ETH, XRP?

I think he got into this coin before. In fact, the last 6 months, the price in btc is at the lowest values since the moment of the launch. I think it was around 0.01 only once when Sasha dumped his bytes. And it was literally one hour dump. Then price went back to 0.02 and raised up
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March 14, 2019, 12:35:23 PM
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I think I'm reaching capitulation point on this project. (Taking big losses on this punt). You don't need investors? Yeh probably not. You never valued them. But good luck, I always liked the tech. Shame it didn't work out for me; Maybe those who stick with it will win in the end

Tell me this, what good is there from those "investors" who just sit on their bag? Where is the value in that?
There is no investors in crypto-space, just speculators. Investing is something else, investors actually support companies they invest into.
How exactly are you loosing money if the GBYTE/USD price has gone up last 3 months and GBYTE/BTC price is same as 6 months ago.
Which coin has performed better during last 3-6 months? BTC, BCH, ETH, XRP?

I think he got into this coin before. In fact, the last 6 months, the price in btc is at the lowest values since the moment of the launch. I think it was around 0.01 only once when Sasha dumped his bytes. And it was literally one hour dump. Then price went back to 0.02 and raised ut

Pretty much most altcoins are the lowest in their BTC price right now because it has been over year long bear market.

If the goal is to gain more BTC then any TA tool will show that altcoin pumps get weaker with every next bull-run in BTC price, but not in USD price.
GBYTE/BTC rose much more in 2017 June (0.35BTC) than GBYTE/BTC in December 2017 (0.07BTC), but GBYTE/USD rose little bit more on second time (900USD in June 2017 and over 1000USD in December 2017).

If the goal is to gain more USD then, when BTC rises, alts rise more. When BTC falls, alts fall more. If the goal is to gain more BTC then stick to speculation of new coins.
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March 14, 2019, 01:51:58 PM
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If the goal is to gain more USD then, when BTC rises, alts rise more. When BTC falls, alts fall more. If the goal is to gain more BTC then stick to speculation of new coins.
if you earn btc when BTC rises, you earn USD as well
if you earn usd when BTC rises, that's mean better to hold BTC. Less risks higher profits
Most of the coins i followed was in top 50 at the bull and stay in top 50 at the bear. Byteball falled much more of average
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March 15, 2019, 06:48:21 AM
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If no investors nothing will help. Even hard fork will not help.

Does your educated opinion say something else?

These days most of the coins unnecessary go to the hardfork phase just to create the hyip  and attract the investors. This trend is not so successful if the only mission is to attract the investors. If Obyte has to be valuable, they need to bring is some use cases which actually make people buy the coin.

The only advantage Obyte has currently is its very limited supply which can make the price grow up very quickly, provided investors show interest in this coin.

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March 15, 2019, 09:14:15 AM
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The only advantage Obyte has currently is its very limited supply
What a bullshit, one Obyte is 1000000000 bytes, 1000000000000000 of coins is not very limited supply  Grin . In any case, a sane person understands that a kilogram of hay weighs as much as a kilogram of nails, even if a kilogram of hay is a stuffed bag, and a kilogram of nails is a handful of iron. Wink
Price is a display of supply and demand
Security demand. Is when coins used for POS or similar ponzi shit - Obyte don't have it.
Usage. Is when coins open doors to exclusive markets, or to the services with better UX - Obyte don't have it.
Speculations. Day trading. Need lot of hype, shill, exchanges, etc  - Obyte don't have it.
imho no need to be a scientists to see the reason for the slow demise of this coin

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The only advantage Obyte has currently is its very limited supply
What a bullshit, one Obyte is 1000000000 bytes, 1000000000000000 of coins is not very limited supply  Grin . In any case, a sane person understands that a kilogram of hay weighs as much as a kilogram of nails, even if a kilogram of hay is a stuffed bag, and a kilogram of nails is a handful of iron. Wink
Price is a display of supply and demand
Security demand. Is when coins used for POS or similar ponzi shit - Obyte don't have it.
Usage. Is when coins open doors to exclusive markets, or to the services with better UX - Obyte don't have it.
Speculations. Day trading. Need lot of hype, shill, exchanges, etc  - Obyte don't have it.
imho no need to be a scientists to see the reason for the slow demise of this coin

Would generally agree that supply matters, but do you look at Bitcoin supply also in smallest units, satoshis? Bytes cannot be divided.
Obyte has plenty of use cases and even more feature, which other people can build products on top of.

If you don't find any value of current use cases then why own any GBYTE?
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