Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments

[fuk]

Obyte has plenty of use cases

lol man Obyte has zero use cases

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[tarmo888]

Obyte has plenty of use cases

lol man Obyte has zero use cases

... for you.

Still not sure why you stick around. I don't keep my pockets full of foreign currency, which countries I have no plan to go.

[fuk]

Obyte has plenty of use cases

lol man Obyte has zero use cases

... for you.

Still not sure why you stick around. I don't keep my pockets full of foreign currency, which countries I have no plan to go.

This is not a foreign currency but candy wrappers that were distributed free of charge. If you look at the amount distributed to the one hands, you will understand that the sale is not worth the effort.
Read this thread, the only participant who was able to see the use cases is you:)
btw there is no any ongoing ico on Obyte

[tarmo888]

Obyte has plenty of use cases

lol man Obyte has zero use cases

... for you.

Still not sure why you stick around. I don't keep my pockets full of foreign currency, which countries I have no plan to go.

This is not a foreign currency but candy wrappers that were distributed free of charge. If you look at the amount distributed to the one hands, you will understand that the sale is not worth the effort.
Read this thread, the only participant who was able to see the use cases is you:)
btw there is no any ongoing ico on Obyte

Most people who understand what Obyte is good for are not on Bitcointalk because they have given up on this toxic environment, they are either on Discord, Reddit or Twitter.
Most fiat currencies are candy wrappers, which you can only use in limited places called "countries".
USD is still considered global reserve currency, but in reality, there are many countries where only currency exchanges can accept that currency, all other businesses can't even accept it legally even if they would like to do so. Some countries have so shitty candy wrappers that you can't even wrap candies with it, can't burn for heat and can't wipe your ass.

Most foreign currencies have no use case for me and I don't go around whine about them how they have no use cases. Same with cryptocurrencies, I don't hodl cryptocurrencies that I don't see any point in them. I use Obyte wallet every day, even when there are days when I don't send any transactions.

[fuk]

Most fiat currencies are candy wrappers

Agreed. But this does not change the fact that there are practically no merchants accepted bytes. No ico's accepted bytes. And the saddest thing is that there is not even a hint that it will happen.

[tarmo888]

Most fiat currencies are candy wrappers

Agreed. But this does not change the fact that there are practically no merchants accepted bytes. No ico's accepted bytes. And the saddest thing is that there is not even a hint that it will happen.

If for you, only "merchants accepting" equals to "use case" or "adoption" then obviously you are holding a wrong currency in your hand. Even exchanging that into BTC would not help you much in that. Maybe stick to fiat candy wrappers, which is accepted everywhere in your country.

Cryptocurrencies a foremost internet currency, so it will get adopted within it's own ecosystem fist and then maybe internet merchants. Maybe never in physical merchants all over the world, but Obyte already has some in Milan.

"no ICO accepted bytes? What, of course they did. There is no ongoing one at the moment, but there is low interest of ICOs during the bear market too. So, can't blame that nobody wants to make a ICO at the moment.

[fuk]

"no ICO accepted bytes? What, of course they did. There is no ongoing one at the moment, but there is low interest of ICOs during the bear market too. So, can't blame that nobody wants to make a ICO at the moment.

https://www.coindesk.com/6-3-billion-2018-ico-funding-already-outpaced-2017
nobody wants to make ICO on Obyte. There is still huge volume on ethereum

Cryptocurrencies a foremost internet currency, so it will get adopted within it's own ecosystem

fine, sad that Obyte don't have own ecosystem   As for milano i doubt it's still work. No news over year

[tarmo888]

Cryptocurrencies a foremost internet currency, so it will get adopted within it's own ecosystem

fine, sad that Obyte don't have own ecosystem   As for milano i doubt it's still work. No news over year

So, they have to keep coming up with same news "we still accept bytes"? That's odd logic.

No ecosystem? What is this then? Do you even have a wallet installed or you keep all your cryptocurrencies on exchange?

Buy Obyte bytes if you want to:
* do P2P sports betting.
* get P2P flight insurance.
* register your username or email, so people could send you bytes more easily.
* take part of weekly lottery draw where you just need to hold bytes, lottery where nobody loses their funds.
* attest your real name to get additional benefits from other bots.
* post polls and vote on polls.
* take part of other ICOs.
* create your own token.
* post data to DAG or write a script and become an oracle.
* buy private tokens and transact with those.
* buy at shops in Milan.

[diyhockey]

Cryptocurrencies a foremost internet currency, so it will get adopted within it's own ecosystem

fine, sad that Obyte don't have own ecosystem   As for milano i doubt it's still work. No news over year

So, they have to keep coming up with same news "we still accept bytes"? That's odd logic.

No ecosystem? What is this then? Do you even have a wallet installed or you keep all your cryptocurrencies on exchange?

Buy Obyte bytes if you want to:
* do P2P sports betting.
* get P2P flight insurance.
* register your username or email, so people could send you bytes more easily.
* take part of weekly lottery draw where you just need to hold bytes, lottery where nobody loses their funds.
* attest your real name to get additional benefits from other bots.
* post polls and vote on polls.
* take part of other ICOs.
* create your own token.
* post data to DAG or write a script and become an oracle.
* buy private tokens and transact with those.
* buy at shops in Milan.

An ecosystem is not only a function but also an end product. Functions are needed to developers. Users need a product. Basically, everything you listed has either a crappy UX, as in the case of
* do P2P sports betting - bad UI, bad odds, low liquidity, limited number of events, currency is constantly losing value
* get P2P flight insurance -  bad UI
 or the product is missing, as in the case of
* take part of other ICOs - there is no ICOs.
* buy private tokens and transact with those - there is no usage for private tokens
* create your own token - what for? Another scam? The token must have a value proposition

[tarmo888]

Cryptocurrencies a foremost internet currency, so it will get adopted within it's own ecosystem

fine, sad that Obyte don't have own ecosystem   As for milano i doubt it's still work. No news over year

So, they have to keep coming up with same news "we still accept bytes"? That's odd logic.

No ecosystem? What is this then? Do you even have a wallet installed or you keep all your cryptocurrencies on exchange?

Buy Obyte bytes if you want to:
* do P2P sports betting.
* get P2P flight insurance.
* register your username or email, so people could send you bytes more easily.
* take part of weekly lottery draw where you just need to hold bytes, lottery where nobody loses their funds.
* attest your real name to get additional benefits from other bots.
* post polls and vote on polls.
* take part of other ICOs.
* create your own token.
* post data to DAG or write a script and become an oracle.
* buy private tokens and transact with those.
* buy at shops in Milan.

An ecosystem is not only a function but also an end product. Functions are needed to developers. Users need a product. Basically, everything you listed has either a crappy UX, as in the case of
* do P2P sports betting - bad UI, bad odds, low liquidity, limited number of events, currency is constantly losing value
* get P2P flight insurance -  bad UI
 or the product is missing, as in the case of
* take part of other ICOs - there is no ICOs.
* buy private tokens and transact with those - there is no usage for private tokens
* create your own token - what for? Another scam? The token must have a value proposition

So, which is it then? No product or bad UI or lack of users?

Sports betting bot is not function, it's product. Additionally to the chat UI, it also has web UI. https://bb-odds.herokuapp.com/
The functions that it is uses are: chatbot, smart-contracts, sports oracle, payments to smart-contract and payments to bot.
If you don't like the odds or the liquidity, offer better ones, it's P2P, so the odds depends what people offer.
There are tons of events available, most events get the odds 2-3 days before the event, but if you think that you would risk to offer some odds earlier then DO IT.

Flight insurance is also not a function, it's a product. It's only as bot. I get it, you don't like chatbot UI, but that doesn't mean it's bad UI.
The functions that it use are the same as Sports betting bot.

There were ICOs, the fact that there is currently no ongoing ones doesn't change that fact. It's a product when somebody makes the ICO and uses also many Obyte built-in functions.

Private tokens can be exchanged on Freebe exchange, that's not a function either, that's a product built using Obyte functions. Nobody cares and knows what people you use those privacy tokens for.

Your own tokens - use your imagination, but I guess you don't have one because you can only criticize others. Seems like you know very well what is good UX, DO IT then.

[diyhockey]

Private tokens can be exchanged on Freebe exchange, that's not a function either, that's a product built using Obyte functions. Nobody cares and knows what people you use those privacy tokens for.

Let's be honest there is no any know markets accepted GBB. People can't use money if merchants do not accept their money.

[tarmo888]

Private tokens can be exchanged on Freebe exchange, that's not a function either, that's a product built using Obyte functions. Nobody cares and knows what people you use those privacy tokens for.

Let's be honest there is no any know markets accepted GBB. People can't use money if merchants do not accept their money.

Again the merchants, merchants, merchants. Getting old already.
Merchants already have currency they are fine with, they accept the fiat currency that's official in your country.
Cryptocurrencies have much more use cases than just trading it for goods.
Blackbytes are meant to be traded P2P, so if one centralized merchant would have most of the volume of blackbytes then it weakens its privacy features.
There are exchanges for bytes and exchange for blackbytes. Convert bytes/blackbytes to whatever currency the merchant accepts.

[diyhockey]

Private tokens can be exchanged on Freebe exchange, that's not a function either, that's a product built using Obyte functions. Nobody cares and knows what people you use those privacy tokens for.

Let's be honest there is no any know markets accepted GBB. People can't use money if merchants do not accept their money.

Again the merchants, merchants, merchants. Getting old already.
Merchants already have currency they are fine with, they accept the fiat currency that's official in your country.
Cryptocurrencies have much more use cases than just trading it for goods.
Blackbytes are meant to be traded P2P, so if one centralized merchant would have most of the volume of blackbytes then it weakens its privacy features.
There are exchanges for bytes and exchange for blackbytes. Convert bytes/blackbytes to whatever currency the merchant accepts.

Currency that can't be spend is not a currency.
tarmo888 - you can exchange your eth on btc, btc on gb, gb on gbb
diyhockey - ok, what for?
tarmo888 - in order to convert them to another currency whatever currency the merchant accepts
Reminds me of how my government works lol

[tarmo888]

Private tokens can be exchanged on Freebe exchange, that's not a function either, that's a product built using Obyte functions. Nobody cares and knows what people you use those privacy tokens for.

Let's be honest there is no any know markets accepted GBB. People can't use money if merchants do not accept their money.

Again the merchants, merchants, merchants. Getting old already.
Merchants already have currency they are fine with, they accept the fiat currency that's official in your country.
Cryptocurrencies have much more use cases than just trading it for goods.
Blackbytes are meant to be traded P2P, so if one centralized merchant would have most of the volume of blackbytes then it weakens its privacy features.
There are exchanges for bytes and exchange for blackbytes. Convert bytes/blackbytes to whatever currency the merchant accepts.

Currency that can't be spend is not a currency.
tarmo888 - you can exchange your eth on btc, btc on gb, gb on gbb
diyhockey - ok, what for?
tarmo888 - in order to convert them to another currency whatever currency the merchant accepts
Reminds me of how my government works lol

Now you got stuck with the "currency" term. Cryptocurrencies are more that just currencies and it takes time before they are more widely accepted than USD, which is not accepted everywhere either.
If you have traveled to other country, that doesn't accept USD, then you should know, this is how even fiat currencies work - if your destination country doesn't accept your candy wrappers, then you exchange it to their candy wrappers in currency exchange.

[diyhockey]

if your destination country doesn't accept your candy wrappers, then you exchange it to their candy wrappers in currency exchange

Sure. Ultimate goal of this exchange is getting access to services. Pay the taxi, buy food, pay rent of room.
If sellers do not accept their national currency, then I do not need it, right? I need currency that they accept.  Otherwise is just a used paper, useless thing.
When you say people can exchange their coins on GBB, i ask what for? Which services can be paid with it?

[BTCspace]

what's the big exchange?

also why not change the unit of Gbyte to Mbyte ?

i think that's will make this coin become more popular...

the coin missed the good opportunity last year, i hope Obyte can take the opportunity this year!
i still believe in this coin and hope this coin have a big future.

[tarmo888]

if your destination country doesn't accept your candy wrappers, then you exchange it to their candy wrappers in currency exchange

Sure. Ultimate goal of this exchange is getting access to services. Pay the taxi, buy food, pay rent of room.
If sellers do not accept their national currency, then I do not need it, right? I need currency that they accept.  Otherwise is just a used paper, useless thing.
When you say people can exchange their coins on GBB, i ask what for? Which services can be paid with it?

What ever service between 2 people who need privacy, that coin is meant for transaction from person to person, not from person to merchant.

[diyhockey]

if your destination country doesn't accept your candy wrappers, then you exchange it to their candy wrappers in currency exchange

Sure. Ultimate goal of this exchange is getting access to services. Pay the taxi, buy food, pay rent of room.
If sellers do not accept their national currency, then I do not need it, right? I need currency that they accept.  Otherwise is just a used paper, useless thing.
When you say people can exchange their coins on GBB, i ask what for? Which services can be paid with it?

What ever service between 2 people who need privacy, that coin is meant for transaction from person to person, not from person to merchant.

Do you understand that if a person sends value to a person, then he expects to receive value in return? It can be other sov (in case of travel or investing in better sov), goods, services.
Can you show me list of persons (usually they called merchants) who exchange their value (preferably online services, marijuana dealers, electronics distributors) on gbb?

[tarmo888]

what's the big exchange?

also why not change the unit of Gbyte to Mbyte ?

i think that's will make this coin become more popular...

the coin missed the good opportunity last year, i hope Obyte can take the opportunity this year!
i still believe in this coin and hope this coin have a big future.

It's not announced yet, which is a new TOP10 exchange.

It's up to exchange to list it as GBYTE or MBYTE, but since it's GBYTE on CMC, all exchanges list it as GBYTE too, to avoid confusion.
If you change GBYTE to MBYTE on CMC then total supply won't be anymore displayed as 1,000,000 GBYTE, but 1,000,000,000 MBYTE.
Also, exchanges are like wholesales, where people trade in bulk, so highest unit makes sense for them.
What opportunity was last year? It's has been over year long bear market and most coin prices follow BTC.

[tarmo888]

if your destination country doesn't accept your candy wrappers, then you exchange it to their candy wrappers in currency exchange

Sure. Ultimate goal of this exchange is getting access to services. Pay the taxi, buy food, pay rent of room.
If sellers do not accept their national currency, then I do not need it, right? I need currency that they accept.  Otherwise is just a used paper, useless thing.
When you say people can exchange their coins on GBB, i ask what for? Which services can be paid with it?

What ever service between 2 people who need privacy, that coin is meant for transaction from person to person, not from person to merchant.

Do you understand that if a person sends value to a person, then he expects to receive value in return? It can be other sov (in case of travel or investing in better sov), goods, services.
Can you show me list of persons (usually they called merchants) who exchange their value (preferably online services, marijuana dealers, electronics distributors) on gbb?

That wouldn't be really private then if I could point to that kind of list. It's up to buyer and seller to agree on the price and medium of exchange. I don't go to dark web, so I don't know where you can find them. Blackbytes is meant more for individual persons transacting with each other, not with bigger merchants. If you still don't get it, you should read this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1574508.0