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August 31, 2017, 05:07:05 PM
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I want to manually backup my byteball wallet but having trouble locating where it's stored.

What's default install dir?
Why don't you use the inbuilt full backup feature? You can reach it via the hamburger menu > settings > full backup. This will create an encrypted and optionally compressed backup file. Don't forget to full backup after every ful moon distribution round, because the Blackbytes are only stored locally.

The inbuilt backup feature doesnt work for some users, including myself. This is documented.

Oh?

I think you're talking about issues from many versions back.   I am able to backup/restore from/to any platform.
Only exception is that you can't backup a full node to be restored to an android/ios for obvious reasons (8GB DB).
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August 31, 2017, 05:15:16 PM
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I think my wallet is screwed  Cry It showing message on the restore from backup page that
'if you moved this backup from another device stop using on the original one immediately after creating the backup.Never clone wallets. if you need access from several devices,use multisig.'
I restored my wallet 3 times on same PC because i was not able to send blackbytes and still i am not able to send it.I think byteball wallet is treating my wallet as clone.how to fix this?

I've got a couple of days ago a message too that the wallet may be a restore from old backup and such.
I downloaded the last version, I installed it and it started working.
Maybe you have an older version too? You should try an install, at least to rule this possibility out.

(Backup everything you can first, just to be sure).
I have the latest version.Tried uninstalling and reinstalling and the problem is not fixed.Deleted 3 times wallet from %appdata%/local/byteball and restored again and it all 3 times created 3 new address along with old address but wallet always stuck at 'Syncing... 13 private payment left'.It's treating my wallet as clone.

There is a few reasons why you would get this issue.  It's possible that you sent GBB/GB, but then did a restore so the GB is spent without the restore knowing it.  Or that you restored a backup and had a GBB sender resend a package, etc.  Also, could have had 2 copies running at the same time (like on a phone and on a pc).  No matter the reason, this can be resolved although a little delicate.   You could send me the DB and I can fix it, but it would require trust on your part AND that I would have a copy of your wallet for the future - not the best solution.   Or, you could start another wallet and send all your funds from the one with the issue to it.

Basically, it's resolvable.   You can PM me directly and I can walk you through a solution.
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August 31, 2017, 05:26:35 PM
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so around 11% increase in distribution from this airdrop right? what are your price predictions 1 day before drop and 1 day after drop? is the pre-airdrop pump coming?
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August 31, 2017, 05:31:08 PM
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Guys, what are your prediction for this Airdrop, since the reward is not very high for bitcoin holders but it's great for Byteball holders like me. Will the price of byteball incerase or decrease because of this airdrop? I'm thinking to sell some exchanging to bitcoin but don't know where is the best time, any?
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so around 11% increase in distribution from this airdrop right? what are your price predictions 1 day before drop and 1 day after drop? is the pre-airdrop pump coming?

Asking the public?  Smiley
Public is normally wrong.
Flipping a coin might make a better prediction.    Wink
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August 31, 2017, 05:58:20 PM
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There is a few reasons why you would get this issue.  It's possible that you sent GBB/GB, but then did a restore so the GB is spent without the restore knowing it.  Or that you restored a backup and had a GBB sender resend a package, etc.  Also, could have had 2 copies running at the same time (like on a phone and on a pc).  No matter the reason, this can be resolved although a little delicate.   You could send me the DB and I can fix it, but it would require trust on your part AND that I would have a copy of your wallet for the future - not the best solution.   Or, you could start another wallet and send all your funds from the one with the issue to it.

Basically, it's resolvable.   You can PM me directly and I can walk you through a solution.

I never sent GBB only today i tried to spend and got the error.This is actually what happened.I will try to explain
I applied for airdrop and received 7 GBB blackbytes and took a backup so far so good.Now i received 10 GBB blackbytes next month and didn't took the backup.My system crashed and i reinstalled windows.Recovered the backup and got 7GBB blackbytes.I panicked and asked for help and was told to contact tonych because only he can resent the lost 10 GBB so i requested him and he did helped me.I got back my 10GBB back so back to 17GBB.Now from yesterday i am trying to send blackbytes and every time i get the error and also it gets stuck on 'Syncing..11 private payment left'.I restored backup 5,6 times and still the same problem.17 GBB blackbytes are stuck in my wallet and i can't transfer them i don't know why.Bytes (GB) transfer seems to be working fine.

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August 31, 2017, 06:06:21 PM
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There is a few reasons why you would get this issue.  It's possible that you sent GBB/GB, but then did a restore so the GB is spent without the restore knowing it.  Or that you restored a backup and had a GBB sender resend a package, etc.  Also, could have had 2 copies running at the same time (like on a phone and on a pc).  No matter the reason, this can be resolved although a little delicate.   You could send me the DB and I can fix it, but it would require trust on your part AND that I would have a copy of your wallet for the future - not the best solution.   Or, you could start another wallet and send all your funds from the one with the issue to it.

Basically, it's resolvable.   You can PM me directly and I can walk you through a solution.

I never sent GBB only today i tried to spend and got the error.This is actually what happened.I will try to explain
I applied for airdrop and received 7 GBB blackbytes and took a backup so far so good.Now i received 10 GBB blackbytes next month and didn't took the backup.My system crashed and i reinstalled windows.Recovered the backup and got 7GBB blackbytes.I panicked and asked for help and was told to contact tonych because only he can resent the lost 10 GBB so i requested him and he did helped me.I got back my 10GBB back so back to 17GBB.Now from yesterday i am trying to send blackbytes and every time i get the error and also it gets stuck on 'Syncing..11 private payment left'.I restored backup 5,6 times and still the same problem.17 GBB blackbytes are stuck in my wallet and i can't transfer them i don't know why.Bytes (GB) transfer seems to be working fine.

I understand.

So, you can try to resolve this a couple of ways as I suggested.

Send everything you can to a new wallet
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Send me your backup, I fix it, send it back.  (Then do the first suggestion so that I no longer have access to your bytes).
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August 31, 2017, 07:23:01 PM
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dang, is there a byetball faucet? need some to cover tx fee

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August 31, 2017, 08:10:48 PM
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Feature request for developers:
make postal tracking oracle to get parcels delivery status by tracking numbers - shipping ordered, parcel accepted by delivery service, in transit, passed customs, delivered etc.


It would be very useful, will make possible secure payments for buying goods from classifieds with mail delivery and merchant who accept Byteball. And this is one more area to use Byteball for p2p payments.
Scheme: buyer and seller found each other and agreed. Buyer makes conditional payment, seller will receive it only after shipment is delivered. Or maybe buyer get some discount if seller shipped item with a delay.

Delivery status is obtained from postal tracking service (17track.net, track-trace.com, national postal services etc) through the oracle.
Postal tracking services have simple APIs for this.
I understand that such payments will not replace trading platforms like Ebay and cheating is still possible, but honest people still more, they just need a tool to reduce mistrust of other participants.

Unfortunately I'm not a developer... Sad

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August 31, 2017, 11:57:13 PM
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Feature request for developers:
make postal tracking oracle to get parcels delivery status by tracking numbers - shipping ordered, parcel accepted by delivery service, in transit, passed customs, delivered etc.


It would be very useful, will make possible secure payments for buying goods from classifieds with mail delivery and merchant who accept Byteball. And this is one more area to use Byteball for p2p payments.
Scheme: buyer and seller found each other and agreed. Buyer makes conditional payment, seller will receive it only after shipment is delivered. Or maybe buyer get some discount if seller shipped item with a delay.

Delivery status is obtained from postal tracking service (17track.net, track-trace.com, national postal services etc) through the oracle.
Postal tracking services have simple APIs for this.
I understand that such payments will not replace trading platforms like Ebay and cheating is still possible, but honest people still more, they just need a tool to reduce mistrust of other participants.

Unfortunately I'm not a developer... Sad

ALL the major carriers (USPS/UPS/FEDEX/DHL/Royal Mail/etc...) have fairly straightforward and easily accessed APIs.  If I was a more adept developer I thought the same thing a while back, conditional smart contracts for physical goods are lacking a decent verification system that doesn't involve an active third party.

Downside is I could put a TN into the contract, ship you a velvet elvis photo instead of the gold bullion you ordered and the contract will still execute, so there's still a substantial trust issue in play there, but I do think this would be a VERY nice feature to have for contract creation.

Maybe even have it check for insurance/insured value if that's possible to help remove a small part of the trust issue at hand.
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September 01, 2017, 01:12:09 AM
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Is this correct?

Can somebody say if this calculation is correct?

Yes, but then the price drops after the distribution.  Just have to be careful not to get sucked away by the tide! 

How big is byteballs development team?
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September 01, 2017, 02:46:26 AM
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Does the Byteball wallet need to be updated? I've been told that it does but the version I'm using (which is the very first one) appears to be working fine for me at the moment...

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September 01, 2017, 03:39:00 AM
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Does the Byteball wallet need to be updated? I've been told that it does but the version I'm using (which is the very first one) appears to be working fine for me at the moment...

1.10.1 is the latest.

Many issues resolved over the last few versions.  Like backups, syncing, DB issues.
I find it hard to believe you're working with the first version.
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September 01, 2017, 03:42:52 AM
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man, no idea how i forgot to link my bitcoin to this. i guess worst case i can just buy it online somewhere. Any exchanges yet or do you need to do transfers with a 3rd party?
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September 01, 2017, 04:07:37 AM
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Now the payment for bitcoin is decreased, so many people may not bother to link their bitcoins. It is more interesting to have GByte to get more. The price has been pretty low for a while...

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September 01, 2017, 04:27:21 AM
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man, no idea how i forgot to link my bitcoin to this. i guess worst case i can just buy it online somewhere. Any exchanges yet or do you need to do transfers with a 3rd party?

there is a guide here

https://medium.com/byteball-help/tutorial-on-linking-trezor-wallet-to-byteball-account-via-signing-a-message-b4e390d7e1a8

and fwiw unless you have a lot its more worthwhile to have GB for this drop. 160 BTC = 1 GB whereas 10 GB = 1 GB . Idk about you but I know what I am getting and not linking

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September 01, 2017, 05:58:02 AM
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The next airdrop is coming nearer  Grin

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The next airdrop is coming nearer  Grin

There won't be as much volatility / excitement this time around, because the air drop amount has decreased. Fewer people are waiting for the airdrop and getting ready to dump their coins as soon as they get their hands on them.


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September 01, 2017, 06:21:08 AM
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Anyone here facing this problem of 'Syncing... 11 private payments left' and sometimes 'Syncing... 13 private payments left','Syncing... 16 private payments left'.
This happens to many wallets, I've reported it to Tony, but it's still unclear what causes it.
My wallets work fine while giving this message though.

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September 01, 2017, 06:33:27 AM
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I was really into Byteball at the beginning, but the first snapshot didn't work for me. So disappointing. Then I just didn't have any more Bitcoins.  Sad
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September 01, 2017, 06:36:04 AM
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Anyone here facing this problem of 'Syncing... 11 private payments left' and sometimes 'Syncing... 13 private payments left','Syncing... 16 private payments left'.
This happens to many wallets, I've reported it to Tony, but it's still unclear what causes it.
My wallets work fine while giving this message though.
I had that myself: kept the message "27 private payments left for a while". Then I updated my wallet, shutdown the system and started it again and the message was gone.
Weird error though

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