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November 09, 2017, 07:08:27 AM
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I did not receive my blackbytes for the last drop, same with anyone else?
Are you sure your bytes were on a linked address? Blackbytes can only be distributed to linked  BB- addresses (see opening post + distribution rules).
Background Info:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1608859.msg19140588#msg19140588
What does it mean "linked" and  how can I identify my linked addresses / my addresses with balance?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1608859.msg20504621#msg20504621
If you're sure that your Bytes were on a linked address at the time of the snapshot, then you can contact Tony. Blackbytes transactions can be resent.
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November 09, 2017, 09:12:34 AM
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Any ideas on the fix?

Uncaught exception: Error: Error: SQLITE_CORRUPT: database disk image is malformed SELECT MAX(lb_units.main_chain_index) AS min_retrievable_mci FROM units JOIN units AS lb_units ON units.last_ball_unit=lb_units.unit WHERE units.is_on_main_chain=1 AND units.is_stable=1




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November 09, 2017, 09:57:35 AM
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I like what's going on in byteball, even though i liked the idea of having more 10% airdrops. be that as it may, the price is currently recovering, and we could see a breakout soon



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November 09, 2017, 10:30:55 AM
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I like what's going on in byteball, even though i liked the idea of having more 10% airdrops. be that as it may, the price is currently recovering, and we could see a breakout soon

ISnt the airdrop done? I still have some as a result of holding BTC - both blackbytes and GBYTE
Yes the price seems to be picking up, its a good development indeed
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November 09, 2017, 12:11:24 PM
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Major New Feature at Freebe Blackbyte Exchange

We can now very easy sell and buy blackbytes at the marketprice at #freebe

just use for example: sell 5g [your address] to sell 5 GBB at marketprice

or buy 20000m [your address] to buy 20000 MBB at marketprice


it is now possible to partially fill trade orders!

http://freebe.byte-ball.com

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November 09, 2017, 12:40:30 PM
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Any ideas on the fix?

Uncaught exception: Error: Error: SQLITE_CORRUPT: database disk image is malformed SELECT MAX(lb_units.main_chain_index) AS min_retrievable_mci FROM units JOIN units AS lb_units ON units.last_ball_unit=lb_units.unit WHERE units.is_on_main_chain=1 AND units.is_stable=1

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Misinformation.  This bug has not been fixed yet. 

Just to make sure that you did not know what you are talking about I upgraded to the latest version:

https://github.com/byteball/byteball/releases/tag/v1.11.2

re-downloaded it and re-installed it and sure enough, I still have the issue.

A fix is in the works.  I expect tonych will announce a new version with the fix when it is ready and available.  He knows all about this issue, see his post here:

Distribution of blackbytes is now finished.

I know about the "removing stable witnessed unit" error, working on it.

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November 09, 2017, 01:10:33 PM
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In terms of byteball airdrops and effect on price I would expect that skipping the airdrop for a particular month, equating to less supply that month, should tend to boost the price, just by normal supply versus demand dynamic, although that didn't seem noticeable in the last skipped air drop month.

I can imagine that 'slow' dripping of byteball into the market by these airdrops though, is prolonging  uncertainty and aggravated by the fact that Tony has ultimate control over when to airdrop and when not to and to change the rules at his whim. This airdropping is the equivalent of central banks tinkering with money supply and no different here really.

Part of me, in a very gung ho way, would like to just dump all the byteball onto the market in one huge load to byteball holders according to the amount of bytes they hold (not bitcoin holders), without pre-announcing it. This unexpected windfall would cause huge waves. But at the same time, in one quick shot remove all the prolonged uncertainties about distribution. Like ripping a plaster off quick is better than peeling off slowly.

Thats what I'd like, then we can get on with using byteball.

I had already put forward similar proposals (distribution in the direction of Ethereum for better spread effect and / or faster drop the remaining bytes to take the uncertainty).
The whole thread is full of alternative suggestions – it’s ok.
In fact, there are very strong concerns about fundamentally changing the rules(distribution exclusively to BTC & Byteball, distribution to 98%).
In fact, the negative, the positive effects could surpass or in other words:
If you are not sure if a solution is better, you better stick to the old one or “never change a running system”

So Tony adjusts the rules only gradually (according to the given framework) to the market situation or the requirements.
He changes the interest rate and possibly also the number of distributions per year.
In effect, he only controls  the speed of distribution (and the amount of inflation in the Byteball ecosystem).
Monetarily it does not matter to owners whether Tony performs a distribution of 20% per annum or monthly distributions of 1.53% (or every 2 months with 3.05%) because of the compounding effect.

He must be careful with the liquidity. The effect is like carbon dioxide (CO2) in nature:
*too little CO2 -> no growth in plants in the ecosystem .. no animals etc.
*too much CO2 -> Toxic effect occurs  -> mass extinction
Liquidity (CO2) is pumped into the ecosystem through the distributions and must first be stored by the holders until it can be meaningfully utilized by business.
The system must find it's balance. The more plants (business) there are in the ecosystem, the more CO2 (liquidity) the system can handle.
The function of the holders is therefore to tie up capital at an early stage so that the liquidity does not become toxic.
The real harvest season has come when the system demands more than Tony provides.

Yes, Tony is currently God and central bank in the Byteball ecosystem.
That's not nice. However, one can assume that this is not fun for him:
*He originally wanted to dump all 98% in four rounds onto the market.(..which was not possible because the participation was too low. )
*The central bank role violates his motto "simplicy is beauty"
*The distribution takes time, which he does not have and one usually reaps criticism
So I'm assuming that he will end this state as soon as possible.
Long story short: Things are currently complicated, but will become easier. There is no patent solution

I think Tony had thought of his role quite differently (more passive in background like SN).
But things are as they are … and they are not bad.
When the distribution started Christmas, I never imagined we having an ICO on Byteball in November. Smiley
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November 09, 2017, 01:57:39 PM
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I also think it would be fine to airdrop ETH holders
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November 09, 2017, 02:06:24 PM
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I also will try to exchange my GBB with GB. I want to keep GB continuously even I don't want to make any transaction at the moment. I also am looking for the update on next distribution whether it be carried out or postponed for next month. Lot of things are being built which will bring value in future for sure with the increase of demand.
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November 09, 2017, 03:25:03 PM
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I also will try to exchange my GBB with GB. I want to keep GB continuously even I don't want to make any transaction at the moment. I also am looking for the update on next distribution whether it be carried out or postponed for next month. Lot of things are being built which will bring value in future for sure with the increase of demand.

You can sell your GBB on http://www.beeb-bot.com

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November 09, 2017, 03:55:04 PM
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Does Smb knows, whether this team has experience?
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November 09, 2017, 03:57:43 PM
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Does Smb knows, whether this team has experience?

experience in what? in developing this coin / tool / project? yes, a lot of things have been done since the beginning of byteball.

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November 09, 2017, 04:07:28 PM
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Hi,

Could anyone help/advise about the byteball wallets -

I installed the mobile wallet and decided to import the seed from the desktop, but saw a warning not to clone the wallet and if proceed stop using the wallet with the same seed  Huh

So the question is if it is possible to access the same wallet/address from the different devices (at least not simultaneously, but in turn), ie use the mobile client on the go and then switch to the desktop one when get back home.

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November 09, 2017, 05:48:12 PM
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So the question is if it is possible to access the same wallet/address from the different devices (at least not simultaneously, but in turn), ie use the mobile client on the go and then switch to the desktop one when get back home.
You're gonna corrupt your blackbytes if you do this.

What you need, is a multisig wallet: 2 devices, 1 needed to sign. You can set it up from your existing wallet by adding a new 1-2 wallet, then pair with the other device, transfer a small amount to test, and once it works: transfer everything.

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November 09, 2017, 07:24:57 PM
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So the question is if it is possible to access the same wallet/address from the different devices (at least not simultaneously, but in turn), ie use the mobile client on the go and then switch to the desktop one when get back home.
You're gonna corrupt your blackbytes if you do this.

What you need, is a multisig wallet: 2 devices, 1 needed to sign. You can set it up from your existing wallet by adding a new 1-2 wallet, then pair with the other device, transfer a small amount to test, and once it works: transfer everything.

last time i have tried to recover from seed and i don't see my blackbytes . Do I have lost them or what ?
I got some strange messages.

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November 09, 2017, 07:35:59 PM
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Interview with Anton Churyumov and how blockchain enables trust
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One could rephrase the famous quote about statistics and say “There are three kinds of scams: scams, downright scams, and ICOs”.

With this quote in mind, may I remind all the people who are complaining about the airdrop that Tony never made any promises, never asked for money, and only gives away a great product and money for free?

last time i have tried to recover from seed and i don't see my blackbytes . Do I have lost them or what ?
Blackbytes are anonymous, the seed doesn't restore them, use the backup-feature in the wallet.

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November 09, 2017, 10:15:41 PM
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Interview with Anton Churyumov and how blockchain enables trust
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One could rephrase the famous quote about statistics and say “There are three kinds of scams: scams, downright scams, and ICOs”.

With this quote in mind, may I remind all the people who are complaining about the airdrop that Tony never made any promises, never asked for money, and only gives away a great product and money for free?

last time i have tried to recover from seed and i don't see my blackbytes . Do I have lost them or what ?
Blackbytes are anonymous, the seed doesn't restore them, use the backup-feature in the wallet.

Does this mean that every time I receive Blackbytes I have to do a full backup? If I will recover from seed, will I have 0 blackbytes?
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November 09, 2017, 10:23:24 PM
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Unfortunately yes, you need to backup after every blackbytes transaction.
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November 09, 2017, 10:36:05 PM
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I also will try to exchange my GBB with GB. I want to keep GB continuously even I don't want to make any transaction at the moment. I also am looking for the update on next distribution whether it be carried out or postponed for next month. Lot of things are being built which will bring value in future for sure with the increase of demand.

You can sell your GBB on http://www.beeb-bot.com

This resource can be trusted? First time I see that somewhere it is possible to sell blackbytes, except in wallet with the help of bot.

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November 09, 2017, 11:16:17 PM
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One could rephrase the famous quote about statistics and say “There are three kinds of scams: scams, downright scams, and ICOs”.

With this quote in mind, may I remind all the people who are complaining about the airdrop that Tony never made any promises, never asked for money, and only gives away a great product and money for free?

last time i have tried to recover from seed and i don't see my blackbytes . Do I have lost them or what ?
Blackbytes are anonymous, the seed doesn't restore them, use the backup-feature in the wallet.

Does this mean that every time I receive Blackbytes I have to do a full backup? If I will recover from seed, will I have 0 blackbytes?

Yes.
Best way to be safe is to use a multi-device wallet, then each time you receive blackbytes the private data are replicated among all your devices.

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