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December 29, 2017, 08:52:55 PM
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Well I see the Byteball thread is now doing the post count,price parity thing.
I know... useless fact, just thought I'd throw it out there for a shiggle.....

Hmm, would it be that time again when I already called for a (self) moderated topic?

Anyway, GBYTE has many interesting aspects worth discussing and I for one would be interested in some statistics about the DAG. More specifically, is there a way to get stats about the number of transactions per day? I've seen https://explorer.byteball.org/ but it seems to show little more information than the graph itself.
Yes, you can see number of transactions on https://byteball.fr/heartbeat.php.
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December 29, 2017, 09:39:59 PM
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Well I see the Byteball thread is now doing the post count,price parity thing.
I know... useless fact, just thought I'd throw it out there for a shiggle.....

Hmm, would it be that time again when I already called for a (self) moderated topic?


not exactly sure what you are insinuating there but
if you mean please abstain from posting useless fun facts on the thread
I certainly will and my humble apologies...
if not, well nm....

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December 30, 2017, 01:24:33 AM
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With your help we can spread the information about Byteball to the maximum number of people. Each of your invested byte will work to attract new audience, the inflow of which will significantly increase the value of cryptocurrency.
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December 30, 2017, 01:58:49 AM
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Hello! We have opened a fund-raising for large-scale MARKETING of Byteball.
With your help we can spread the information about Byteball to the maximum number of people. Each of your invested byte will work to attract new audience, the inflow of which will significantly increase the value of cryptocurrency.
More information you can find here:
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Topic(EN) - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2664152
Topic(RU) - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2664256
Bot's pairing code - AqlIgvF1BXb0MjrlxY6HYRFOAhfcdi0FpbR/PAGH+map@byteball.org/bb#0000
We will regularly form the reporting of spending with a list of platforms on which reviews and the advertising were ordered with the amounts of their spending. These reports you can see by going to our website, pointed in the heading.
You can share your ideas about the development of Byteball with us, or suggest partnership, by writing in the topic, or by writing to our e-mail: support@bytesfund.com

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Does Tony have any word or opinion on this?

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December 30, 2017, 03:36:25 AM
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Hello! We have opened a fund-raising for large-scale MARKETING of Byteball.
With your help we can spread the information about Byteball to the maximum number of people. Each of your invested byte will work to attract new audience, the inflow of which will significantly increase the value of cryptocurrency.
More information you can find here:
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Topic(EN) - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2664152
Topic(RU) - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2664256
Bot's pairing code - AqlIgvF1BXb0MjrlxY6HYRFOAhfcdi0FpbR/PAGH+map@byteball.org/bb#0000
We will regularly form the reporting of spending with a list of platforms on which reviews and the advertising were ordered with the amounts of their spending. These reports you can see by going to our website, pointed in the heading.
You can share your ideas about the development of Byteball with us, or suggest partnership, by writing in the topic, or by writing to our e-mail: support@bytesfund.com

*We aren't the official developer's fund.
Does Tony have any word or opinion on this?

Yes, he literally said on slack "thanks for bringing this to my attention, i have no idea who they are"

My comment (and haven't gotten a response):
Glad to see people getting involved!  My concern comes from the fact that there is no independent accountability or means of recourse if this group does not deliver on its promises. Everything they are hoping to achieve through this effort could be done more efficiently and with safeguards if donations (for example) flow through the community fund externally designated for this project. Would something like this work for the group? Or is the group only interested in efforts if they directly receive the money first?

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December 30, 2017, 03:44:14 AM
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I'm reading a lot of talk from here and telegram and slack of people wanting to change the multiple that bytes are traded in from GBYTE to MBYTE.

I have read people saying "if tony wanted to he could make the change immediately with no problem". But I'm wondering, can anyone provide evidence of a Bittrex listed coin that has already done this?
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December 30, 2017, 10:05:27 AM
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let's change the basic unit to MB or KB ?


i think byteball reasonable valuation should be 50% of IOTA !

I think IOTA reasonable valuation should be 50% of byteball because IOTA even doesn't have a warking wallet and peoples that use it have a lot of trouble!
And I think byteball need more exchange.


Well what about the fact iota is not even able to operate in a decentralised manner right now. It has its coordinator training wheels on and they are afraid to remove them. I would find that far more worrying right now.

IOTA is an ico coin... no one really know how they really distribute the coin

byteball is better and more transparent

i hope byteball have same marketcap as iota at least!


let's hope in 2018, 1 Gbyte= 5000$



$5000 is quite possible but not so fast. I would bet that this scenario could occur in the span of 3 years. $1500 by the end of 2018 is more realistic.



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December 30, 2017, 10:23:33 AM
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let's change the basic unit to MB or KB ?


i think byteball reasonable valuation should be 50% of IOTA !

I think IOTA reasonable valuation should be 50% of byteball because IOTA even doesn't have a warking wallet and peoples that use it have a lot of trouble!
And I think byteball need more exchange.


Well what about the fact iota is not even able to operate in a decentralised manner right now. It has its coordinator training wheels on and they are afraid to remove them. I would find that far more worrying right now.

IOTA is an ico coin... no one really know how they really distribute the coin

byteball is better and more transparent

i hope byteball have same marketcap as iota at least!


let's hope in 2018, 1 Gbyte= 5000$



$5000 is quite possible but not so fast. I would bet that this scenario could occur in the span of 3 years. $1500 by the end of 2018 is more realistic.

only because of the denomination. Both iota and XRB went up 10x this month. There should be no reason why BB should not follow
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December 30, 2017, 12:27:57 PM
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wait for the next weeks, Byteball will skyrocket  2018 Wink

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December 30, 2017, 02:10:31 PM
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Small pumps, hard dumps
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December 30, 2017, 04:36:49 PM
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let's change the basic unit to MB or KB ?


i think byteball reasonable valuation should be 50% of IOTA !

I think IOTA reasonable valuation should be 50% of byteball because IOTA even doesn't have a warking wallet and peoples that use it have a lot of trouble!
And I think byteball need more exchange.


Well what about the fact iota is not even able to operate in a decentralised manner right now. It has its coordinator training wheels on and they are afraid to remove them. I would find that far more worrying right now.

IOTA is an ico coin... no one really know how they really distribute the coin

byteball is better and more transparent

i hope byteball have same marketcap as iota at least!


let's hope in 2018, 1 Gbyte= 5000$



$5000 is quite possible but not so fast. I would bet that this scenario could occur in the span of 3 years. $1500 by the end of 2018 is more realistic.

Considering that it was $300 a couple of weeks back, $1500 would be a lot. In any case, if we really believe in the long term potential, we can sit tight on our coins. We could also have one round of air drop, if we are lucky.


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December 30, 2017, 04:40:34 PM
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I like Byteball much more than IOTA. IOTA is greedy, Byteball airdrop model is almost perfect!

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December 30, 2017, 04:42:18 PM
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Hello! We have opened a fund-raising for large-scale MARKETING of Byteball.
With your help we can spread the information about Byteball to the maximum number of people. Each of your invested byte will work to attract new audience, the inflow of which will significantly increase the value of cryptocurrency.
More information you can find here:
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Topic(EN) - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2664152
Topic(RU) - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2664256
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You can share your ideas about the development of Byteball with us, or suggest partnership, by writing in the topic, or by writing to our e-mail: support@bytesfund.com

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Maybe would help if you firstly show some your articles and using a few your own Bytes for promotion, then people would add without concerns I think
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December 30, 2017, 04:57:55 PM
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let's change the basic unit to MB or KB ?


i think byteball reasonable valuation should be 50% of IOTA !

I think IOTA reasonable valuation should be 50% of byteball because IOTA even doesn't have a warking wallet and peoples that use it have a lot of trouble!
And I think byteball need more exchange.


Well what about the fact iota is not even able to operate in a decentralised manner right now. It has its coordinator training wheels on and they are afraid to remove them. I would find that far more worrying right now.

IOTA is an ico coin... no one really know how they really distribute the coin

byteball is better and more transparent

i hope byteball have same marketcap as iota at least!


let's hope in 2018, 1 Gbyte= 5000$


Why do people always compare IOTA with byteball? The byteball has always been technology-driven, while IOTA has always been marketing-driven
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December 30, 2017, 05:00:38 PM
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Hello! We have opened a fund-raising for large-scale MARKETING of Byteball.
With your help we can spread the information about Byteball to the maximum number of people. Each of your invested byte will work to attract new audience, the inflow of which will significantly increase the value of cryptocurrency.
More information you can find here:
Site - https://bytesfund.com
Topic(EN) - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2664152
Topic(RU) - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2664256
Bot's pairing code - AqlIgvF1BXb0MjrlxY6HYRFOAhfcdi0FpbR/PAGH+map@byteball.org/bb#0000
We will regularly form the reporting of spending with a list of platforms on which reviews and the advertising were ordered with the amounts of their spending. These reports you can see by going to our website, pointed in the heading.
You can share your ideas about the development of Byteball with us, or suggest partnership, by writing in the topic, or by writing to our e-mail: support@bytesfund.com

*We aren't the official developer's fund.
Maybe would help if you firstly show some your articles and using a few your own Bytes for promotion, then people would add without concerns I think
Happy to see some of the supporters of byteball spontaneously doing the marketing of this project, which is very good thing, will promote the price increase
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December 30, 2017, 05:07:51 PM
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Blackbytes Escrow Exchange Bot (BEEB) is offering you 1,000,000 Bytes!

Buy and sale your BlackBytes on BEEB bot - More info at http://beeb-bot.com


Here is your link to receive 1,000,000 Bytes: https://byteball.org/openapp.html#textcoin?penalty-soup-blouse-spot-broken-obey-brick-always-flame-trumpet-match-hockey

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December 30, 2017, 06:23:13 PM
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*** 330 MBytes 24h net profit on binaryballs with 5 contracts ***

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See the contract details on stat page !

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December 30, 2017, 06:37:25 PM
Last edit: December 30, 2017, 06:54:53 PM by Rogerdale
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$5000 is quite possible but not so fast. I would bet that this scenario could occur in the span of 3 years. $1500 by the end of 2018 is more realistic.

If you expect $1500 by the end of 2018, you should immediately sell Byteball and buy Bitcoin and Ethereum. Bitcoin will cost $50000 by the end of 2018, and Ethereum will cost $5000. You should hold Byteball only if you expect $5000 in a year term.

But Byteball so undervalued comparing to XRB for example, that it can give x3 any time.
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December 30, 2017, 08:59:01 PM
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Blackbytes Escrow Exchange Bot (BEEB) is offering you 1,000,000 Bytes!

Buy and sale your BlackBytes on BEEB bot - More info at http://beeb-bot.com


Here is your link to receive 1,000,000 Bytes: https://byteball.org/openapp.html#textcoin?penalty-soup-blouse-spot-broken-obey-brick-always-flame-trumpet-match-hockey
wow

this is really nice

i will buy some byteball..


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December 30, 2017, 09:11:23 PM
 #16260

Version 1.11.3 released https://github.com/byteball/byteball/releases

* Added support for user friendly asset names.  However you will see the names in the wallet only after we set up the registries.  More about it later.

Sorry for the delay, recent wallet issues took too much time.  This is how the registry system is supposed to work.

Asset names are supposed to be assigned by trusted users/businesses called registries.  Any number of registries can exist, and each hub will have a list of registries it trusts.  Only names assigned by trusted registries will be broadcast to wallets connected to the hub.

The registries post data records like this https://explorer.byteball.org/#kYdnCr84pe/T7QJRLV0Yknf24+n9K9c9AGZclgS8WVA=
Pay attention to the Data section of this unit:
Code:
asset: 9x6ZmDXonsyLhv2lEc5snj04MPiQ8tMq7m8qSJLac8o=
name: tonycoin
decimals: 2
It says that registry 3Y24IXW57546PQAPQ2SXYEPEDNX4KC6Y (the author of this unit) assigned name "tonycoin" to asset 9x6ZmDXonsyLhv2lEc5snj04MPiQ8tMq7m8qSJLac8o= and its amounts must be displayed with 2 decimal places.

Anyone can post such a record and be a self-proclaimed registry, they need to use only the standard wallet with its recently added data posting functionality.

However, to make these names visible by users, the registry must be trusted by hubs.  It is in the interest of the hubs to create a safe environment for their users where asset names are unique, clear, and fairly assigned, without names that were created to deliberately confuse, mislead, or scam people, and without name squatting.  That's why the hubs are expected to trust only those registries whose policies meet their quality criteria.

Each hub can have its own set of criteria, here is what I would expect from a registry to be trusted:

- it should never register the same name to two different assets
- it should do its best to avoid registering a name that was already registered by another trusted registry to another asset (impossible to totally exclude e.g. if they make registrations at nearly the same time)
- it should not register names that are meant to mislead people.  E.g. names that are similar to existing ones, names using spelling tricks (lowercase L for uppercase I, etc), names that are already associated with something else (e.g. a random guy cannot apply to register "microsoft")
- it should not register dictionary words to avoid name squatting.  When the asset is still associated with a dictionary word, it must be qualified, e.g. with the owner's name.  For example, you can't register a "pizza" but can register "PapaJohnsPizza" or "DominosPizza".  The registries may use a hierarchical structure in such cases, e.g. papajohns.pizza, dominos.pizza, hawaiian.dominos.pizza.  The registry should verify the owner's name, either on its own, or relying on a third-party verification (such as attestation).  In any case, the responsibility is with the registry.
- invented words are OK.  E.g. it was OK to register "google" in 1997.

It all sounds similar to trademark registration, just more decentralized with multiple competing registries.

Registration is a manual process and takes some work and human judgement to validate each application.  That's why registries are supposed to charge a fee for their work.

If the same name is still registered to different assets by different registries, and both registries are trusted by the hub, the hub should append a suffix with the registry name to remove ambiguity in the wallets.  Otherwise, the suffix is not displayed to make the name shorter.

The end result is, asset names are unique and honest, making the environment safe for users.  This is different from other platforms (such as Waves) where duplicate names are allowed, anyone can register anything, and users have to be constantly on guard against scams.

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Now, we still have 0 trusted registries on the default hub byteball.org and the assets in the wallets are still cryptic hashes.  My proposal is that we elect 1 or 2 registries to start with.  We already have a poll bot and can put it to use here.  If this sounds like a good idea, let's start with nominations.



that's really a nice feature


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