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September 06, 2016, 12:41:34 PM
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Hello.

This account (UID=6) is the oldest regular account here on Bitcointalk.

It was bought as a collector's item.

It will never be used for any transactions and therefore I do not care if it's painted with red and in fact if it's not against the rules, I would encourage others to mark the account red as a bought collector's item that you should not trust or try to trade with.

The only problem I have is the accusations that it's been a hacked account.  There is no sufficient proof for this and is only pure speculation. This account will never be used to trade, buy, sell, transact, or raise any bitcoin of any sort so it should not be tainted with speculated claims that doesn't even serve as a safety measure for other members.

This feedback is absolutely fine: "Account being sold. Do not rely on age of account to equate to being trusted."

Timelord2067 and Quickseller's feedback involving hacking accusations should be adjusted.
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September 06, 2016, 12:43:31 PM
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The person who sold you this account (if it was in fact sold) most likely hacked it.

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September 06, 2016, 12:56:54 PM
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The person who sold you this account (if it was in fact sold) most likely hacked it.

This is speculation though and doesn't add any value to the feedback system.  It only taints the collectible (the account).

It has 2 posts from the original owner which does not have any ties to any business, organization or anything that could be used to leverage the account pretending to be the original owner.

I have no problem with what you're trying to do.  My only gripe is that you are focusing on a guessed hacking accusation from the seller instead of leaving feedback that accurately describes what has happened.

I do not dispute that this is a bought account.  I am more than fine with people marking it red to warn users not to trust or trade with this account (as they should).  The guessing should be left out though.

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September 06, 2016, 02:03:11 PM
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My rating is not speculation. The forum was hacked last year, during which time, password hashes to all the accounts were leaked. Based on the length of time since your account was last active, it is reasonable to conclude that someone with access to the password hashes was able to figure out the prior password to your account. I don't think the original owner will come back for his account, however unless you got a signed message, the account is almost certainly hacked.

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September 06, 2016, 02:19:10 PM
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Where would I get a signed message from?

There are only 2 posts on this account and I don't see what value it would serve as I'm not going to pretend like I am the original owner. I am not.  I bought it. I didn't hack it.

There was a sale thread.  I bought the account.  It is being used as a collectible/novelty account.  Users should not trade or trust this account.

It could be that the original owner decided to come back and sell the account.  It could be that the seller hacked it, but that doesn't mean that I hacked it as your feedback seems to point towards.

Why not just leave feedback that accurately portrays what has happened?

Leaving "probably hacked" gives the wrong impression and the only damage that you are doing is to me. 
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September 07, 2016, 01:12:54 PM
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Where would I get a signed message from?

There are only 2 posts on this account and I don't see what value it would serve as I'm not going to pretend like I am the original owner. I am not.  I bought it. I didn't hack it.

There was a sale thread.  I bought the account.  It is being used as a collectible/novelty account.  Users should not trade or trust this account.

It could be that the original owner decided to come back and sell the account.  It could be that the seller hacked it, but that doesn't mean that I hacked it as your feedback seems to point towards.

Why not just leave feedback that accurately portrays what has happened?

Leaving "probably hacked" gives the wrong impression and the only damage that you are doing is to me. 

Do you know it wasn't hacked?

It seems like you are concerned with resale value.  Clearly there is some sort of value to it, since you paid for it.

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September 09, 2016, 12:17:02 PM
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Where would I get a signed message from?

There are only 2 posts on this account and I don't see what value it would serve as I'm not going to pretend like I am the original owner. I am not.  I bought it. I didn't hack it.

There was a sale thread.  I bought the account.  It is being used as a collectible/novelty account.  Users should not trade or trust this account.

It could be that the original owner decided to come back and sell the account.  It could be that the seller hacked it, but that doesn't mean that I hacked it as your feedback seems to point towards.

Why not just leave feedback that accurately portrays what has happened?

Leaving "probably hacked" gives the wrong impression and the only damage that you are doing is to me. 

Do you know it wasn't hacked?

It seems like you are concerned with resale value.  Clearly there is some sort of value to it, since you paid for it.

Not going to re-sell it ever.

I really just don't want people thinking that I hacked it.  Quickseller's comment kind of insinuates that.  Timelord's feedback is much more appropriate because it comes with an explanation, not just a vague accusation that can easily be misinterpreted.

It takes 20 seconds to re-adjust the feedback and make it more accurate.  I don't think it's too much to ask.
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September 11, 2016, 03:28:30 PM
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Hello.

This account (UID=6) is the oldest regular account here on Bitcointalk.

It was bought as a collector's item.

It will never be used for any transactions and therefore I do not care if it's painted with red and in fact if it's not against the rules, I would encourage others to mark the account red as a bought collector's item that you should not trust or try to trade with.

The only problem I have is the accusations that it's been a hacked account.  There is no sufficient proof for this and is only pure speculation. This account will never be used to trade, buy, sell, transact, or raise any bitcoin of any sort so it should not be tainted with speculated claims that doesn't even serve as a safety measure for other members.

This feedback is absolutely fine: "Account being sold. Do not rely on age of account to equate to being trusted."

Timelord2067 and Quickseller's feedback involving hacking accusations should be adjusted.
Just curious. Feel free to not answer my question.

How much did you buy it for?

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September 12, 2016, 09:27:09 PM
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Fwiw, I tend to believe you and can't see what benefit there is to pursuing this.
DT members with time on their hands might like to have a look at this revived old account, because it's got red flags all over for me.

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September 13, 2016, 09:42:41 AM
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Hello.

This account (UID=6) is the oldest regular account here on Bitcointalk.

It was bought as a collector's item.

It will never be used for any transactions and therefore I do not care if it's painted with red and in fact if it's not against the rules, I would encourage others to mark the account red as a bought collector's item that you should not trust or try to trade with.

The only problem I have is the accusations that it's been a hacked account.  There is no sufficient proof for this and is only pure speculation. This account will never be used to trade, buy, sell, transact, or raise any bitcoin of any sort so it should not be tainted with speculated claims that doesn't even serve as a safety measure for other members.

This feedback is absolutely fine: "Account being sold. Do not rely on age of account to equate to being trusted."

Timelord2067 and Quickseller's feedback involving hacking accusations should be adjusted.

You are mistaken, I did not leave negative feedback / trust.

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See also https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1607521.0

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September 13, 2016, 10:54:29 AM
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Quickseller loves to put up stuff without being able to prove it. His assumptions are worth shit.

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September 13, 2016, 07:12:25 PM
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Quickseller loves to put up stuff without being able to prove it. His assumptions are worth shit.

... and QuickSeller has deleted my post (in his self-moderated thread about violence) concerning his bullying.

Surely that is a form of violence in itself!

http://archive.is/jLCpj#selection-4621.0-4691.64

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September 13, 2016, 07:27:29 PM
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Quickseller loves to put up stuff without being able to prove it. His assumptions are worth shit.

... and QuickSeller has deleted my post (in his self-moderated thread about violence) concerning his bullying.

Surely that is a form of violence in itself!

http://archive.is/jLCpj#selection-4621.0-4691.64

Nah, violence would be if he struck your head with a heavy steel wrench for making a post on Bitcointalk

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