Ian Bakewell

[Deprived]

Whoever got scammed, you're seriously going to sit back and watch him take you for thousands of dollars? If that were me I'd take it into my own hands.

There's certainly people out there who will do that. I wouldn't, since all I lost was a couple hundred shares of BAKEWELL. But if I was Ian I wouldn't try to run, $100,000 is a lot of money and it is NOT difficult to find someone with the amount of info he posted. He even posted his utility bills here. If he stuck around and tried to work something out people would cut him some slack. We all make mistakes.

But yeah, unless he's moving to Asia running isn't going to solve anything for Ian. It will just make the people after him angry and more likely to do something stupid.

Ian if you're reading this, contact me and I'll help you, but don't try to run, you are making a mistake.

I'd agree with that.  His identity's too well known and the amount too large for him to just vanish - would assume one or more of the larger debtors will either take matters into their own hands (unlikely unless they're Canadian), go to the police (it's a large enough amount to get an investigation going - and I expect the forum would undelete some of his posts if necessary) or start negative publicity (website in his name so any Google of him finds it, contacting anyone likely to know him etc).

Being unable to repay the debts isn't a crime.  Stealing the investors' hardware plus that part of the debt he's able to repay IS.

I own zero shares now, so have no skin in this (took a tiny loss selling off what I happened to hold).  And he's in the wrong continent for me to do a lot anyway (though if he had owed me a lot I'd be going the law-enforcement route - as I don't have contacts to allow the more personal/effective method in Canada but can file a complaint from anywhere).

[MPOE-PR]

He's full on deleted himself back to 25 posts, no doubt trying to erase all traces of his dealings.

Beautyful, is it not?

Now imagine self-moderated thread had already been around earlier. Oh the wonderful cleaning sprees we would see. Hundreds of threads vanishing without a trace. The wailing and gnashing of victim's teeth all throughout the forum.

At least cadaver washing like for instance Jared Kenna's would work a lot better then.

[John (John K.)]

I am requesting theymos to tag him and restore the deleted content.

PS: I'm not invested nor affiliated with him in any way, but I think that him removing his traces after scamming the community is a bad precedent

[greyhawk]

At least cadaver washing like for instance Jared Kenna's would work a lot better then.

Who's that? It sounds like a porn name.

[Matthew N. Wright]

Everytime this happens, people say the same things: "You better watch out! Pain is coming!" and "It's not gonna be hard to track him down!". Really? REALLY? What justice was served to Tom Williams? Bitcoinica? Alberto Armandi? Trendon Shavers?

Please stop enabling scammers by not spending the necessary energy, time and funds on pursuing justice against them.
Please stop enabling scammers by *only* posting about what happened on a forum instead of actually calling the police, visiting them in person, suing, etc.

[LoweryCBS]

...Trendon Shavers...

Speaking of whom: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=35827

Last Active:    March 23, 2013, 04:30:53 PM

[theymos]

I tagged him and restored all of his deleted posts to Archival.

[MPOE-PR]

I tagged him and restored all of his deleted posts to Archival.

The restoring part is a huge step in the right direction.

If forum policy becomes "you may delete your own posts but if you get scammer tagged everything you deleted is undeleted by default" things'd be much neater.

[nebulus]

Now, all he has to do is wait for this "bubble" to burst and then apologize... *cough*

He didn't seem competent enough even back when glbse was about. Sorry... Rule #1: don't ever cash out borrowed coin.

+1 on the policy

[repentance]

I'd agree with that.  His identity's too well known and the amount too large for him to just vanish - would assume one or more of the larger debtors will either take matters into their own hands (unlikely unless they're Canadian), go to the police (it's a large enough amount to get an investigation going - and I expect the forum would undelete some of his posts if necessary) or start negative publicity (website in his name so any Google of him finds it, contacting anyone likely to know him etc).

There's not really any evidence that past scammers have had to "vanish" in order to avoid consequences, though.  I'm not saying that people shouldn't take whatever actions they can reasonably afford, but I think they need to keep their expectations about what results those actions might bring realistic.

I really wish that the ability to edit/delete posts was time limited and/or there was a way to confine it to the first post in a thread in certain forums.

[malevolent]

At least cadaver washing like for instance Jared Kenna's would work a lot better then.

Who's that? It sounds like a porn name.

CEO of Tradehill (a former Bitcoin exchange that was forced to shut down after losing $100K).

...Trendon Shavers...

Speaking of whom: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=35827
Last Active:    March 23, 2013, 04:30:53 PM

Probably wants to ensure no one wants to meet him in person

[MoonShadow]

I don't believe Ian's intent was to default.  Hopefully he will return on his own and attempt to make amends. 

[ldrgn]

So why does Ian Bakewell get all his posts undeleted and Usagi didn't?  Usagi had 10 times the number of threads about his fraud back then - there was no shortage of forum attention.  Usagi also deleted his personal website making this forum the only place where the information was archived.  I guess the belief that mods only care about the frauds where they were victims is true.

[Bowjob]

So why does Ian Bakewell get all his posts undeleted and Usagi didn't?  Usagi had 10 times the number of threads about his fraud back then - there was no shortage of forum attention.  Usagi also deleted his personal website making this forum the only place where the information was archived.  I guess the belief that mods only care about the frauds where they were victims is true.

This has nothing to do with Usagi. This thread refers to Bakewell alone. If you want to start bitching, go make your own thread.

[🏰 TradeFortress 🏰]

I don't believe Ian's intent was to default.  Hopefully he will return on his own and attempt to make amends. 

I don't believe Ian initially wanted to scam the coins, however after the ~5x rally he couldn't afford to pay back and just thought "fuck it", deleting all his posts and changed it to closed

[John (John K.)]

So why does Ian Bakewell get all his posts undeleted and Usagi didn't?  Usagi had 10 times the number of threads about his fraud back then - there was no shortage of forum attention.  Usagi also deleted his personal website making this forum the only place where the information was archived.  I guess the belief that mods only care about the frauds where they were victims is true.

This has nothing to do with Usagi. This thread refers to Bakewell alone. If you want to start bitching, go make your own thread.

This, and as I said above I'm not affiliated nor invested with Bakewell. I've not invested a single bitcent in him, and expect that no mods/admins are invested in him either. It's just that the case is clear here.

[MoonShadow]

So why does Ian Bakewell get all his posts undeleted and Usagi didn't?  Usagi had 10 times the number of threads about his fraud back then - there was no shortage of forum attention.  Usagi also deleted his personal website making this forum the only place where the information was archived.  I guess the belief that mods only care about the frauds where they were victims is true.

This has nothing to do with Usagi. This thread refers to Bakewell alone. If you want to start bitching, go make your own thread.

This, and as I said above I'm not affiliated nor invested with Bakewell. I've not invested a single bitcent in him, and expect that no mods/admins are invested in him either. It's just that the case is clear here.

Sadly, I loaned him 60 BTC.

[John (John K.)]

So why does Ian Bakewell get all his posts undeleted and Usagi didn't?  Usagi had 10 times the number of threads about his fraud back then - there was no shortage of forum attention.  Usagi also deleted his personal website making this forum the only place where the information was archived.  I guess the belief that mods only care about the frauds where they were victims is true.

This has nothing to do with Usagi. This thread refers to Bakewell alone. If you want to start bitching, go make your own thread.

This, and as I said above I'm not affiliated nor invested with Bakewell. I've not invested a single bitcent in him, and expect that no mods/admins are invested in him either. It's just that the case is clear here.

Sadly, I loaned him 60 BTC.

...Oops. I didn't know of that when I requested theymos to undelete his post, for all it's worth.

[zebedee]

I don't believe Ian's intent was to default.  Hopefully he will return on his own and attempt to make amends. 

You're wrong.  Follow the blockchain.

[repentance]

Wonder if he'll return the 30,000 G.SDICE shares he "borrowed" (base value 191 BTC).

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=162873.0