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February 13, 2017, 02:09:18 PM
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Awesome miner, great job! Yet unusable for CryptoNote...
On all my miners it always jumps to 100% fan speed on RX400 cards...eventually.
Using 16.9.2 drivers (16.10.1 or 16.11.5 make no difference)
Same miners do Claymore XMR non-stop for weeks.

Does anyone have any solution for this 100% fan issue?

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February 13, 2017, 02:44:04 PM
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Awesome miner, great job! Yet unusable for CryptoNote...
On all my miners it always jumps to 100% fan speed on RX400 cards...eventually.
Using 16.9.2 drivers (16.10.1 or 16.11.5 make no difference)
Same miners do Claymore XMR non-stop for weeks.

Does anyone have any solution for this 100% fan issue?
No 100% fan here. 30% fan 73 °C.

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February 13, 2017, 03:00:27 PM
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No 100% fan here. 30% fan 73 °C.
What cards do you have? RX 470 or 480?
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February 13, 2017, 03:37:32 PM
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i use a 480 and 260x,they both work just fine as u can see


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February 13, 2017, 04:10:01 PM
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For me the problem is persistent on Win10 on several platforms: 4,5 and 6 cards on Asrock MBs (h81 btc r2.0, anniversary and B150) mostly 470 REFs, but also 480REFs.
Apparently it also happens on non-REFs (Asus) rx480 and rx470.
All cards run UV and bios modded.
Non-Polaris cards are not affected.

Any advice is appreciated.

EDIT: it can run for hours before it will jump to 100% for no apparent reason. Also various forks are affected (wolf's xmr, zawawa's GG, nicehash, etc...)
Again, it happens ONLY on CryptoNote...

P.S. ohh and I do run stable setups:


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February 13, 2017, 04:26:59 PM
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For me the problem is persistent on Win10 on several platforms: 4,5 and 6 cards on Asrock MBs (h81 btc r2.0, anniversary and B150) mostly 470 REFs, but also 480REFs.
Apparently it also happens on non-REFs (Asus) rx480 and rx470.
All cards run UV and bios modded.
Non-Polaris cards are not affected.

Any advice is appreciated.

EDIT: it can run for hours before it will jump to 100% for no apparent reason. Also various forks are affected (wolf's xmr, zawawa's GG, nicehash, etc...)
Again, it happens ONLY on CryptoNote...

P.S. ohh and I do run stable setups:



I've got the same issue on my gaming rig running the newer 17.1.2 driver. Another rig I have is running 16.11.4 and doesn't have the fan issue. Going to try downgrading to 16.11.4 later to see if the issue is solved.
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February 13, 2017, 04:35:18 PM
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For me the problem is persistent on Win10 on several platforms: 4,5 and 6 cards on Asrock MBs (h81 btc r2.0, anniversary and B150) mostly 470 REFs, but also 480REFs.
Apparently it also happens on non-REFs (Asus) rx480 and rx470.
All cards run UV and bios modded.
Non-Polaris cards are not affected.

Any advice is appreciated.

EDIT: it can run for hours before it will jump to 100% for no apparent reason. Also various forks are affected (wolf's xmr, zawawa's GG, nicehash, etc...)
Again, it happens ONLY on CryptoNote...

P.S. ohh and I do run stable setups:



I've got the same issue on my gaming rig running the newer 17.1.2 driver. Another rig I have is running 16.11.4 and doesn't have the fan issue. Going to try downgrading to 16.11.4 later to see if the issue is solved.

well... 17 is a no go for me anyways, since it enforces bios signature check...
and this:

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Using 16.9.2 drivers (16.10.1 or 16.11.5 make no difference)
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February 13, 2017, 04:38:54 PM
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What's more interesting is why it doesn't happened on your other rig. Can you please describe the setup?
What's so special about it...Are we talking XMR? are those rx400? what OS is that? Are cards modded? how about voltage?

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February 13, 2017, 04:48:58 PM
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I'm speculating a bit here but this 100% fan issue seems to be a bug in amd win drivers:
It's likely a thing between CryptoNote algo implementation and drivers for RX400, as I know someone who has the same issue in Claymore's Cryptonote miner!

EDIT: which is really weird and hard to imagine

 

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February 13, 2017, 05:38:37 PM
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I'm speculating a bit here but this 100% fan issue seems to be a bug in amd win drivers:
It's likely a thing between CryptoNote algo implementation and drivers for RX400, as I know someone who has the same issue in Claymore's Cryptonote miner!

EDIT: which is really weird and hard to imagine

 


its definitely amd win driver issue with RX cards, its same issues with Claymore , Wolf0 , SG while mining XMR, because of that when im in XMR mood , im using ubuntu, no issues under nix`es.

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February 13, 2017, 06:45:49 PM
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its definitely amd win driver issue with RX cards, its same issues with Claymore , Wolf0 , SG while mining XMR, because of that when im in XMR mood , im using ubuntu, no issues under nix`es.
Not necessarily a driver issue. I've had this problem (100% fan) only with this sgminer. The same rig has been mining for 2+ weeks now pretty much non-stop with Wolf's miner and not a single problem with that one. Also tried Claymore for a few days and also never had this problem with it. The only 2 theories I've got at the moment are:

1 - 100% fan happens with sgminer-gm only on mixed cards rigs. I've had this problem in a rig that has two rx 480 and one rx 470. Right now testing another rig which has only 3x rx 480 and no other cards - so far it's stable with no fan weirdness, but hasn't been running long enough yet to draw any conclusions. Then again, just a few posts earlier someone posted a screenshot of a mixed rig. But the problem could be with mixing rx 470 and rx 480 specifically within one rig. Anyone here runs them mixed with this sgminer and cryptonote?

2. Might be related to some specific cards. The rig I've had this problem on has an Asus RX 470 Strix, maybe something's about this card that sgminer-gm doesn't like. RX 480 Nitro cards seem to work fine.
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its definitely amd win driver issue with RX cards, its same issues with Claymore , Wolf0 , SG while mining XMR, because of that when im in XMR mood , im using ubuntu, no issues under nix`es.
Not necessarily a driver issue. I've had this problem (100% fan) only with this sgminer. The same rig has been mining for 2+ weeks now pretty much non-stop with Wolf's miner and not a single problem with that one. Also tried Claymore for a few days and also never had this problem with it. The only 2 theories I've got at the moment are:

1 - 100% fan happens with sgminer-gm only on mixed cards rigs. I've had this problem in a rig that has two rx 480 and one rx 470. Right now testing another rig which has only 3x rx 480 and no other cards - so far it's stable with no fan weirdness, but hasn't been running long enough yet to draw any conclusions. Then again, just a few posts earlier someone posted a screenshot of a mixed rig. But the problem could be with mixing rx 470 and rx 480 specifically within one rig. Anyone here runs them mixed with this sgminer and cryptonote?

2. Might be related to some specific cards. The rig I've had this problem on has an Asus RX 470 Strix, maybe something's about this card that sgminer-gm doesn't like. RX 480 Nitro cards seem to work fine.

for me its happening with all XMR miners on win, as i mentioned before, Claymore , SG , less on Wolf0 but still happens. And thos are Sapphire Nitros+ 480 , all from same series 11260-01-20G , identical.

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February 13, 2017, 08:12:37 PM
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its definitely amd win driver issue with RX cards, its same issues with Claymore , Wolf0 , SG while mining XMR, because of that when im in XMR mood , im using ubuntu, no issues under nix`es.
Not necessarily a driver issue. I've had this problem (100% fan) only with this sgminer. The same rig has been mining for 2+ weeks now pretty much non-stop with Wolf's miner and not a single problem with that one. Also tried Claymore for a few days and also never had this problem with it. The only 2 theories I've got at the moment are:

1 - 100% fan happens with sgminer-gm only on mixed cards rigs. I've had this problem in a rig that has two rx 480 and one rx 470. Right now testing another rig which has only 3x rx 480 and no other cards - so far it's stable with no fan weirdness, but hasn't been running long enough yet to draw any conclusions. Then again, just a few posts earlier someone posted a screenshot of a mixed rig. But the problem could be with mixing rx 470 and rx 480 specifically within one rig. Anyone here runs them mixed with this sgminer and cryptonote?

2. Might be related to some specific cards. The rig I've had this problem on has an Asus RX 470 Strix, maybe something's about this card that sgminer-gm doesn't like. RX 480 Nitro cards seem to work fine.

Well... All my rigs are fine with claymore (in fact I NEVER had 100% fan with claymore xmr) and ALL sgminer forks have this problem for me.
Some of my rigs are mixed amd generations, some are mixed rx470 & 480, and some are exclusively 470. (REFs, Nitros and a few Asuses)

At this point I have no clue as to what exactly causes this, but dual win/linux seems now as a valid option

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February 13, 2017, 08:22:49 PM
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All my rigs are fine with claymore (in fact I NEVER had 100% fan with claymore xmr) and ALL sgminer forks have this problem for me.
Some of my rigs are mixed amd generations, some are mixed rx470 & 480, and some are exclusively 470. (REFs, Nitros and a few Asuses
Do you have any rigs that have no RX 470 cards in them? There might be a problem with (some?) RX 470 cards not working properly either by themselves or with RX 480 cards in the same rig. That's just an idea, of course, I'm still trying to figure out this thing myself and those "theories" of mine are a long shot  Grin, but still might be worth checking out. My "rx 480 only" rig seems to work fine so far, I'll run it with sgminer from now on and see whether it's stable for more than just a few hours.
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February 14, 2017, 12:51:34 AM
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Removed 17.1.2 this morning with DDU, tried installing 16.11.4 a few times but it would crash half way through driver installation. Gave up on that, and installed 16.11.5 after another DDU cleanup. I'm going to preemptively say the issue is solved. SGMiner has been running for 7+ hours and the fans are behaving as they should. With 17.x.x they'd go max RPM within about 2 hours, then eventually the fan on one of the GPUs would actually turn its self off. That caused the GPU to overheat, reach thermal limit and turn off the rig to protect its self. For the past 2 weeks I've been trying to figure out why it would turn off, and figured the PSU was to blame. I ended up figuring out the aforementioned problem by leaving VNC connected to it on another rig.

@Prelude
What's more interesting is why it doesn't happened on your other rig. Can you please describe the setup?
What's so special about it...Are we talking XMR? are those rx400? what OS is that? Are cards modded? how about voltage?

Rig that wasn't having fan issues:

4x Reference RX480 + 2x Reference style Sapphire RX470, all 6 with modded BIOS.
Win 10 Pro X64 / 16.11.4 driver
Mining XMR with SGMiner 5.5.5-gm

Stable for weeks on end

Rig with fan issues:
4x Reference RX480 with modded BIOS.
Win 10 Pro X64 / 17.1.1 and 17.1.2 driver, both same issue
Mining XMR with SGMiner 5.5.5-gm

Would mine for 2 hours or so before 1 or more GPUs' fans went full throttle. Eventually one of the fans would turn off completely, causing over temp protection to kick in and power down rig. Claymore would work perfectly for as long as I let it, no fan issues.



 

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February 14, 2017, 01:23:20 AM
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Well. I hope you solved the issue for yourself with driver reinstall.
If I recall correctly sometimes SGM XMR managed to work for a day or so without 100% ... 6+ hours for sure.
Do you run it undervolted? (Becasue I do - ETH@850mv, ZEC@910mv and XMR @910-925)

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February 14, 2017, 02:17:04 AM
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Well. I hope you solved the issue for yourself with driver reinstall.
If I recall correctly sometimes SGM XMR managed to work for a day or so without 100% ... 6+ hours for sure.
Do you run it undervolted? (Becasue I do - ETH@850mv, ZEC@910mv and XMR @910-925)

Have you tried with 16.11.4/5? I'm closing in on 9 hours now without issue. Will report back after 24h.

Yes, undervolted.  Running them at 1250MHz @ 975mV before vdroop.
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Yeah, I also thought my 2nd rig with 3x rx 480 was stable with no issues, left it for the night, and after I returned back to it today — had 0-100% fan issue with one card. That's after ~12 hours of running. The fan doesn't actually spin 100% all the time, it goes to 100% for a minute or so, and then drops to 0% (stops completely), then a minute or so later - back to 100% again.

It might be that the card is simply not stable and that's how sgminer-gm crashes? The card that was having 100% fan issues today had the "DEAD" status in sgminer. So I dropped the clocks a bit and testing it again. I'm getting higher cryptonight hashrate with this sgminer than with any other miner, so it could be just stressing the cards more than other miners and thus the clocks/voltages that are stable with other miners might not be stable with sgminer. When a card crashes - we get this 100% fan issue. That's my new working theory anyway. Cheesy
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Yeah, I also thought my 2nd rig with 3x rx 480 was stable with no issues, left it for the night, and after I returned back to it today — had 0-100% fan issue with one card. That's after ~12 hours of running. The fan doesn't actually spin 100% all the time, it goes to 100% for a minute or so, and then drops to 0% (stops completely), then a minute or so later - back to 100% again.

It might be that the card is simply not stable and that's how sgminer-gm crashes? The card that was having 100% fan issues today had the "DEAD" status in sgminer. So I dropped the clocks a bit and testing it again. I'm getting higher cryptonight hashrate with this sgminer than with any other miner, so it could be just stressing the cards more than other miners and thus the clocks/voltages that are stable with other miners might not be stable with sgminer. When a card crashes - we get this 100% fan issue. That's my new working theory anyway. Cheesy

No, that's not the issue. It's a bug with sgminer and some driver versions. I say the bug is with sgminer because claymore doesn't have issues with the fans.

I'm over 24h without fan issues now, problem solved. Use 16.11.4 or 16.11.5. Hopefully the sgminer bug can get sorted, I'd like to use the latest drivers on my gaming rig.
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