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April 28, 2025, 11:45:12 AM
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I want to get verified in advance!!!
What's the problem???
Why does the casino use verification as a trick to steal money???
I simply ask you to verify my account in advance! But you strictly refuse me. As if I'm depriving you of the opportunity to play unfairly and win-win in advance???

I ask again, what's the problem??? Why do you refuse to verify my account before I start playing???

Because no big business can change their modus operandi for an individual with a $1k bank roll lol. It is simply not scalable. One more thing, no successful casino can ever build upon robbing the players out of their money, it is simply not sustainable in the long term.
I will give you another perspective to think about, if a casino does not want to pay a legitimate player there are literally millions of excuses other than the KYC trap so your assumptions are unfounded.
I have personally cashed out in the thousands from the casino in question without going through KYC, maybe this helps to make up your mind. 



Maybe he's just so tense on some KYC issues happening on other casino then think about that KYC will be used to delay or steal money from their gamblers here that's why he act like that.

But if he really don't like what the casino been implemented then I guess there's no need for him to push his self to gamble here. Also I don't see any point on why they need to change something just to do what they like to happen. Although I understand his sentiments towards those KYC trap things but that's not always happening. Usually this issue occur on shady casino, but for those long time reputable casino, I doubt they would use that reason to stop the withdrawals of their winning gamblers. Because that action is bad for their business.

everything is correct. your comment absolutely clearly indicates why it is important for me to do this.
I had a problem in the previous casino. After verification, my documents were not accepted with the wording "they differ from the format supported by our verifier", the document is not in English. And the dispute ended with them taking away all my winnings and returning only my deposit! Fortunately, the complaint filed on the Askgamblers website allowed me to get my winnings back. But these are already details, as a result of which the casino steals money, and if they are caught red-handed, the most they will do is return your money to you!!! No one even thinks about any material fine for theft!

I have an absolutely banal request - check my documents and give me permission or refusal to accept bets in advance! My request does not violate the casino rules in any way. The rules say that the request can be made at any time! All I want is to protect myself! Why would anyone have a negative reaction to this???

Bookmaker representative, can you tell me why you refuse to simply verify my account before I start placing bets???

I really hope that you will allow this to be done. And verification of players before the start of the game will be laid down in the traditions of fair betting!
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April 28, 2025, 12:07:34 PM
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I ask again, what's the problem??? Why do you refuse to verify my account before I start playing???
Betcoin.ag or any other casino won't change their KYC verification related rules just for you. Different casinos have different systems for KYC verification. I can see why you are worried about the KYC verification requirement during withdrawal. At the same time, I'm wondering why are you so desperate to play at Betcoin.ag! There are many casinos where you can complete the verification before making any deposit. You should choose those platforms instead of forcing a casino to change their rules.

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April 28, 2025, 12:58:09 PM
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I ask again, what's the problem??? Why do you refuse to verify my account before I start playing???
Betcoin.ag or any other casino won't change their KYC verification related rules just for you. Different casinos have different systems for KYC verification. I can see why you are worried about the KYC verification requirement during withdrawal. At the same time, I'm wondering why are you so desperate to play at Betcoin.ag! There are many casinos where you can complete the verification before making any deposit. You should choose those platforms instead of forcing a casino to change their rules.

What is the problem with allowing your clients to undergo verification before starting the game?

And don't tell me about the company's rules again. There is no ban on verification before starting the game.

I spent a lot of time choosing a casino where I would like to place bets. I studied many important parameters for myself - a convenient interface, very good odds, a long history of work, the presence of a license, a convenient method for depositing. Of course, this is all a subjective assessment, but it at least somehow indicates the high level of the casino and my comfortable pastime.

Why are you advising me to try another? There are no problems with this elsewhere?! Then why is there a problem here?

I simply asked myself about my safety. But now I am already worried about your reaction ... Instead of telling the casino that why not show good manners and verify the client's identity, there is nothing prohibited in this. You are starting to tell me that I almost want to change the entire system of the company ... What is the main rule of the company in your opinion? Allow any client to lose their money without any checks, but be sure to check the client in case of a win???

Ideally, the license issued to the casino is simply obliged to force them to verify the player before the game is allowed! If you allow the player to place bets, and only after the result of these bets, start doing some checks - this is fraud! You will not agree with me here either?
Why is a teenager asked for documents when he wants to go to a bar? Why not the other way around? It would be funny if they checked the age at the exit, after the events have happened...

I wrote so many comments, not because I really want to place bets here(I actually still want to bet here), but I am simply already scared of the trend that is developing on this forum. Everyone who writes their comments tells me that I want too much. And my request is more than basic! And to the question - "why are you refusing me?", you answer me "usually we do not do this!" Well, maybe it's time to change for the better? Maybe we can start with my account and forever create the best tradition for everyone - to verify their clients before the start of the game??? change your traditions not specifically for me, but for all your future clients!
And I would really like for at least one member of the forum community with legendary status to write something along the lines of "I agree that this person's request is indeed justified and does not in any way contradict fair play!" Because it already seems to me that maybe I really am going crazy and telling a lamppost to get out of my way.
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April 28, 2025, 01:08:16 PM
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I see some that have also advanced their compliance and verification, and they were allowed, maybe for some special case but not with betcoin.

I think that it's very simple: when they don't ask you to do so, you don't have to do it. And if there is nothing to worry about fraud and your funds are clean, you have nothing to stress yourself with.

So, for now, you're free to gamble without having to do any compliance for now, unless they ask you, but it means suspecting some violations or just some routine compliance.

No, that's not how it works!

The verification process is a tricky move for the casino, which is always left in case the client wins something.
Why does no one have a question - does the casino have the right to allow its clients to place bets without checking whether the information provided during registration is reliable? Is the player really 18 years old? Is he not prohibited from playing?
The answer is very simple - all the casino rules exist for only one purpose - to steal your money!!! I am talking specifically about stealing! When they accept your bets, they do not care that you are breaking them. But how can a casino want to follow the rules when it is profitable for them?!
They're not there to steal anyone's money. It's always a presumption of a gambler that has lost a lot when they can't accept that they've lost. It is to say that their been robbed by the casino.

But in the first place, they won't lost(steal in your saying) if they have never gambled at all.

And as for these information, I believe that most casinos that you have not yet verified allows you to change details.

I already want to ask the casino a direct question - YOU directly indicate that you earn money by not paying out winnings to your clients because of verification? How do you explain your behavior, why do you refuse verification before the start of the game???
For most withdrawals, there have no issues so far about withdrawals. And as for the verification, the support has said that they always say the same thing for all users that they only ask it when something odd is found with the user.

But I understand why you want to get verified first before gambling, it's not the first time that I've seen a gambler requested that.

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April 28, 2025, 01:12:26 PM
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We were trying to be cordial so you didn't lose all credibility on your new BitcoinTalk account. But since you insist on pushing this, we will layout the full details for everyone to see. You came in our chat and asked about banned regions. We told you that based on the location of your passport, we could not accept your play. Then you came in again, using a different account email, and asked to verify.

We had already told you that your ID was unacceptable. Why would you ask to verify after already being told that you would not pass verification? Perhaps you were going to get someone else to verify for you.

Do not create another Betcoin account. We will be able to tell it is you, regardless of whose ID you use and you will forfeit your winnings and deposit, as you already have been warned and at that point, it would be considered malicious multi-accounting.

Please stop posting about this our thread, as any further responses will be considered spam and removed. We were trying to let this go, but you insisted on an answer and now you will look like a liar for the rest of the life of your BitcoinTalk account.


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I was asked to give an insight for this matter, and though the player UberV has created a thread of his own for this issue, to honor the member's request, I'll address the matter being discussed up to this point this far here once and only once, and will address and redirect the continuation of discussion regarding the issue that UberV needed on his thread..

So, after reading all of those uhh, slight drama, first of all, UberV, "I agree that this person's request is indeed justified and does not in any way contradict fair play!". Though the wordings were already given by other legendary members, though not verbatim.

Yes, we can understand your need and concern of "being robbed" by a casino with vague KYC reason, we can understand the urge to feel safe by completing KYC prior to it being asked. In fact, it is rather encouraged by many gamblers to other gamblers to avoid inconvenient situation in the future.

That said, your concern seemed to be unnecessary this time. Betcoin, by far, is the only casino in my list with 100% resolved rate. From the time I build my list to this date I write this post, there is no other casinos have this beside Betcoin. Hell, I'll put it in the open, at times, it's actually their rep who "chase me" with follow ups instead of me chasing them to give a follow ups for a case. They are beyond prompt in addressing matters. At times they even already attend to and resolve cases before I can notify their rep.

So, yes, you have your right to feel concerned and have the urge to perform KYC before it will be asked in the future.

Do they have to follow your request, though? No. Why? I'll redirect the discussion and try to explain it to you in your own thread.

And those above, are written with a deliberate disregard to David's revelation of your previous inquiry about your eligibility while being in restricted territory, because that too will be addressed in your own thread.

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We were trying to be cordial so you didn't lose all credibility on your new BitcoinTalk account. But since you insist on pushing this, we will layout the full details for everyone to see. You came in our chat and asked about banned regions. We told you that based on the location of your passport, we could not accept your play. Then you came in again, using a different account email, and asked to verify.
This is pretty surprising. Now it is clear to me why OP was desperate to play at Betcoin.ag by completing the KYC verification in advance. The KYC verification process isn't same at your casino like some other casinos. The user was trying to find a loopholes here to complete the KYC verification despite being a resident or citizen of restricted countries. And he is trying to blackmail Betcoin.ag by creating an unnecessary accusation thread Grin.

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The user was trying to find a loopholes here to complete the KYC verification despite being a resident or citizen of restricted countries. And he is trying to blackmail Betcoin.ag by creating an unnecessary accusation thread Grin.

It was a long rant in the scam accusation section. It's unfair for Betcoin.ag for him to create a scam accusation when there is no amount involved.
We have a scam format in the scam section where it involves amounts and transaction logs but he cannot or has nothing to show because there are none.
Better ignore this guy; he is annoying. He can just move and play elsewhere.

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