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September 18, 2016, 10:05:43 PM
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Just wait and see:

https://twitter.com/FAILCommunity/status/777624681536946176

This could not be another DAO FAIL, but will surely teach you some lessons.  

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September 18, 2016, 10:25:21 PM
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Mods this thread can now be locked down as it's a duplicate of this one:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1620666.0

Thank you.

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September 18, 2016, 11:39:22 PM
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"fromshanghiwithlove" - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1620716.0

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September 19, 2016, 03:41:58 AM
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Just wait and see:

https://twitter.com/FAILCommunity/status/777624681536946176

This could not be another DAO FAIL, but will surely teach you some lessons.  

The AMAZING thing is that price is hardly affected. 
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September 19, 2016, 03:47:41 AM
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Well nothing happened and the price is still ok. This is just some people waiting for it to fail and sensationalizing the hell out of the latest bug. To keep things in perspective, it is only a bug. Nothing the development team cannot fix. If everything fails they can always fork it.

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September 19, 2016, 03:57:08 AM
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Hmm ya weird the price is the same pretty much i think.. $12.72

Which is pure lunacy anyway.. no idea why it's even worth 1 cent.
You are all retarded.  Roll Eyes

Oh and Spartak's topic is better because it's not all in CAPS with 80 font  Cheesy

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September 19, 2016, 04:57:49 AM
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Here is a quote from someone who has a better idea on what is going on. The problem is minor and it only proves some people get too excited and get carried way causing them to sensationalize the issue.

Memory leak means you have to restart the program from time to time, else it could eat up all the available memory then freeze/crash.
It's nothing big and it's not a security issue.
I don't think it would cause dump unless more FUD is placed onto the forums.


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September 19, 2016, 05:20:01 AM
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Here is a quote from someone who has a better idea on what is going on. The problem is minor and it only proves some people get too excited and get carried way causing them to sensationalize the issue.

Memory leak means you have to restart the program from time to time, else it could eat up all the available memory then freeze/crash.
It's nothing big and it's not a security issue.
I don't think it would cause dump unless more FUD is placed onto the forums.



The point is that a specific block (and probably a specific transaction) caused such a significant memory leak that the software crashed.  Normal memory leaks do, as your quote says, but that would never get any "coherent effect" because nodes are started up with random times, and hence the crashing rate would be constant and small.  The simultaneous crashing by memory leaks on a specific block actually means something totally different: an exploit.  Mostly, probably, a kind of buffer overflow, the base of 95% of all exploits.
It means that special transactions can blow up your node... or maybe totally other things.  That means the code contains at least one buffer overflow or similar error, and hence most probably MANY.  This is no surprise, as the execution of the complex code means that your node is a small OS in a certain way.  Much, much more complicated to manage exploitless than bitcoin-like nodes.

This is the signature of ethereum: security was an afterthought, and the system they set up is just too complex.

Ethereum is a hacker's paradise.
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September 19, 2016, 05:41:15 AM
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Well nothing happened and the price is still ok. This is just some people waiting for it to fail and sensationalizing the hell out of the latest bug. To keep things in perspective, it is only a bug. Nothing the development team cannot fix. If everything fails they can always fork it.

Really? The price went down by 4.2% (at some point) in less than 2 hours, but that's probably because Poloniex freezed deposits/withdrawals almost immediately after the bug was found.

Here is a quote from someone who has a better idea on what is going on. The problem is minor and it only proves some people get too excited and get carried way causing them to sensationalize the issue.

Memory leak means you have to restart the program from time to time, else it could eat up all the available memory then freeze/crash.
It's nothing big and it's not a security issue.
I don't think it would cause dump unless more FUD is placed onto the forums.

Here is a quote from someone who is willing to explain you the bigger picture here:

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GROW THE FUCK UP AND USE YOUR BRAIN!

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September 19, 2016, 07:37:25 AM
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This will not effect Ethereum supporters.  They have faith.  Ethereum is a belief system not unlike religion.  Moreover, they are all ready and willing to commit financial suicide and/or cryptojihad for their cryptofaith and, their almighty leader Vitalik Buterin (Peace be upon him). 
This religious DETH CULT will soon be having its annual Devcon pilgrimage / cryptohajj.  Ether People will travel from far and wide to Shanghai next week for the religious festival.  They feel nothing can stop them.

This is the 21st Century man.  The world turnd to shit.  Government are loosing control, the middle east is torn apart by proxy war, the fiat financial systems are crumbling. People need to believe in something!

Welcome to the first Church of Appliantology "Ethereum"  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvnO3On4_fo

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September 19, 2016, 07:57:34 AM
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This will not effect Ethereum supporters.  They have faith.  Ethereum is a belief system not unlike religion.  Moreover, they are all ready and willing to commit financial suicide and/or cryptojihad for their cryptofaith and, their almighty leader Vitalik Buterin (Peace be upon him). 
This religious DETH CULT will soon be having its annual Devcon pilgrimage / cryptohajj.  Ether People will travel from far and wide to Shanghai next week for the religious festival.  They feel nothing can stop them.

This is the 21st Century man.  The world turnd to shit.  Government are loosing control, the middle east is torn apart by proxy war, the fiat financial systems are crumbling. People need to believe in something!

Welcome to the first Church of Appliantology "Ethereum"  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvnO3On4_fo

Hahaha, that's a nice trolling. Grin I'm really laughing with tears. Smiley

P.S. I don't care about Ethereum, I care about the consequences which caused.

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September 19, 2016, 08:18:09 AM
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consequences...  50% of nodes could go off line if they see a certain type of transaction.  

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/53dfof/geth_crashing_memory_leak/

Edit: my previous post is no joke.  If i lived in America i would be involved in setting up counselling groups, self help books and therapy sessions to cure the afflicted. It is our duty to not turn our back on them. 

One can judge a cripto community by the way it cares for its vulnerable.

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consequences...  50% of nodes could go off line if they see a certain type of transaction. 

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/53dfof/geth_crashing_memory_leak/

I saw that and it was already fixed by (I suppose) karalabe, but that's not the point.

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September 19, 2016, 08:28:10 AM
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Except that they already fix it. They almost fix bugs as soon as they appear, not even btctalk trolls can keep up. Unprecedented. But what is the point then, dollface ? The point is, it is not perfect and without bugs ?  Everyone knows that . They're doing something that can be a game changer, for everything, and you expect no bugs ? You were born today ?
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September 19, 2016, 08:28:24 AM
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This will not effect Ethereum supporters.  They have faith.  Ethereum is a belief system not unlike religion.  Moreover, they are all ready and willing to commit financial suicide and/or cryptojihad for their cryptofaith and, their almighty leader Vitalik Buterin (Peace be upon him). 
This religious DETH CULT will soon be having its annual Devcon pilgrimage / cryptohajj.  Ether People will travel from far and wide to Shanghai next week for the religious festival.  They feel nothing can stop them.

This is the 21st Century man.  The world turnd to shit.  Government are loosing control, the middle east is torn apart by proxy war, the fiat financial systems are crumbling. People need to believe in something!

Welcome to the first Church of Appliantology "Ethereum"  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvnO3On4_fo

Brilliant  Cheesy
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September 19, 2016, 08:35:21 AM
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Except that they already fix it. They almost fix bugs as soon as they appear, not even btctalk trolls can keep up. Unprecedented. But what is the point then, dollface ? The point is, it is not perfect and without bugs ?  Everyone knows that . They're doing something that can be a game changer, for everything, and you expect no bugs ? You were born today ?

EXCEPT THAT THEY RAISED 100S OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND EVERY NOW AND THEN, THE SONG REPEATS: "THE DAO WAS OUR BIGGEST PROJECT AND OUR BIGGEST FAILURE. GET OVER IT.". WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE PEOPLE WHO LOST MONEY IN THE MEAN TIME?

Ethereum fucked the concept of crypto. Period. I'm not a hater or something.

And don't call me a troll or a dollface, because you are really seeing my face. If you want to prove some point, you can come over here and say it in front of me, but that's just in case you have an appointment with your dentist.

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September 19, 2016, 08:37:34 AM
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Wow dollface, you're scary. I wouldn't post my picture with that kind of stupid haircut. You're not even good looking. Ofcourse they raised money, they are not red cross. Can you do better if you let's say, raise double the amount ? Can you hire better developers and do something better with not 2x the amount, but 10 times the money they had  ? I doubt that.
I'm not telling you something new, but most if not every startup fails more or less, some of them even fail so badly with great ideeas. Never read around about startups being bought for milions simply for their technology / ideea / whatnot , even though they weren't making any profit ? This is the world we live in, great ideeas / technology are invested and speculated in.
If there will be very succesful dapps deployed, eth could go up to ~100$ easily, that's why 13$ atm is not that much of a risk and that's the reason it's cap is over 1billion.
Ethereum didnt fuck up any crypto concept, because all the crypto was before ethereum was : blockchain / crypto that aimed to be currency. That was all it was and all everyone thought it can be. Untill ethereum came. So don't tell me you don;t agree with what i just said. Ethereum atm is the reason blockchain technology is not only associated with dark markets, drugs, prostitution, weapon traffickers and so on. Now it's starting being associated with technology and unlimited possiblities.
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September 19, 2016, 08:42:53 AM
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Wow dollface, you're scary. I wouldn't post my picture with that kind of stupid haircut. You're not even good looking. Ofcourse they raised money, they are not red cross. Can you do better if you let's say, raise double the amount ? Can you hire better developers and do something better with not 2x the amount, but 10 times the money they had  ? I doubt that.
I'm not telling you something new, but most if not every startup fails more or less, some of them even fail so badly with great ideeas. Never read around about startups being bought for milions simply for their technology / ideea / whatnot , even though they weren't making any profit ? This is the world we live in, great ideeas / technology are invested and speculated in.
If there will be very succesful dapps deployed, eth could go up to ~100$ easily, that's why 13$ atm is not that much of a risk and that's the reason it's cap is over 1billion.

Oh, wow... Brad Pitt of Economics just gave his opinion. Where can I sign for an autograph?

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September 19, 2016, 08:45:10 AM
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You can requote now sweetie, i edited.
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You can requote now sweetie, i edited.

Not until you show yourself. I thought we had something.

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