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September 21, 2016, 04:07:31 PM
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Uh, yes it would, as most users arent coders at all? Darknet thug buyers and sellers dont know the technology behind it, they were taught the simplest way with bitcoin by their nerd buddy who happens to be smart enough to know how to transact safely without losing it all.

you arent coding a new coin... all you need is a wallet and that's simple. if you can configure tor you know something(basics at least).
and if a friend of yours run your "business", well, your friend is probably managing btc for you and can do the same with xmr.... you are failing to see the diference between the drug dealer from your street to a DNM drug dealer.

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September 21, 2016, 04:08:26 PM
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Can you buy guns with xmr?

in the dark web you can buy almost everything, heck they can build gun with plastic there and a 3d printer lol, just check youtube, it's not that hard but a bit costly yes
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September 21, 2016, 04:21:35 PM
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Can you buy guns with xmr?
Yes if the darknet marketplace where you are trying to buy that gun accept XMR. XMR still needs lots more development aside from darkweb marketplaces accepted them as payment method for better stability over price.


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September 22, 2016, 04:37:30 AM
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There was a post somewhere in the altcoin forum that said that the darknet merchants' acceptance of XMR is decreasing. I will try to find it. This is really very normal because first, those that dropped it might just be testing it. Second, XMR does not have enough of the infrastructure needed to make it easier to use. A light wallet that works properly than the present one which is in its alpha release must be replaced. Third, that's reality. I takes some time for people to adjust and make use of what is new offered to them. It will take maybe more than 1 year before XMR becomes really prominent in the darknet.

It will take just some being busted because of using transparent BTC instead of XMR.

People are lazy animals they will not do anything that are not forced to do.



But that is not the point. The point was that the merchants that are accepting XMR is decreasing despit the threat of being caught using "transparent BTC". Or maybe they prefer bitcoins + using a tumbling service instead because it is more convenient for them. Whatever the reason is if the merchants accepting XMR is decreasing instead of increasing then that is not a good sign.

Also your reaction is very much like the Ostrich picture who refuses to listen to feedback.

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September 22, 2016, 07:02:23 AM
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If you look at the volume you can sense that the XMR hype is more of pump than the use case, I don't think darknet acceptability is that high since there is still Bitcoin mixing service which can make the transaction still remain anonymous.

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September 22, 2016, 08:03:49 AM
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Uh, yes it would, as most users arent coders at all? Darknet thug buyers and sellers dont know the technology behind it, they were taught the simplest way with bitcoin by their nerd buddy who happens to be smart enough to know how to transact safely without losing it all.

you arent coding a new coin... all you need is a wallet and that's simple. if you can configure tor you know something(basics at least).
and if a friend of yours run your "business", well, your friend is probably managing btc for you and can do the same with xmr.... you are failing to see the diference between the drug dealer from your street to a DNM drug dealer.

He doesn't fail to see... He doesn't want to see cause he's an SDC-shill...
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September 22, 2016, 08:06:11 AM
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But that is not the point. The point was that the merchants that are accepting XMR is decreasing despit the threat of being caught using "transparent BTC". Or maybe they prefer bitcoins + using a tumbling service instead because it is more convenient for them. Whatever the reason is if the merchants accepting XMR is decreasing instead of increasing  then that is not a good sign.

Also your reaction is very much like the Ostrich picture who refuses to listen to feedback.

Any proof for these bolded claims would be nice... otherwise you're just juggling empty airballs...

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September 22, 2016, 09:43:50 AM
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Can you buy guns with xmr?

Yes, you can. But why would you? Don't buy guns, guns are bad. Head over to the DNM and buy Ecstasy instead.

Bad idea.. i damn near died last time i took that shit.
Talk about a savage nasty OD experience Sad
Many people are dead from taking that shit.
Guns are safer LOL

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September 23, 2016, 01:30:49 AM
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But that is not the point. The point was that the merchants that are accepting XMR is decreasing despit the threat of being caught using "transparent BTC". Or maybe they prefer bitcoins + using a tumbling service instead because it is more convenient for them. Whatever the reason is if the merchants accepting XMR is decreasing instead of increasing  then that is not a good sign.

Also your reaction is very much like the Ostrich picture who refuses to listen to feedback.

Any proof for these bolded claims would be nice... otherwise you're just juggling empty airballs...

best regards,

There was actual data posted by someone here in the forum. It was in the XMR speculation thread if I remember correctly. I will look for it and post here when I find it. The  numbers were in fact decreasing at the time of that post. It looked like the darknet market merchants were trying it out and then dropped it. Why that is is another matter. I speculate that most of their customers are still using bitcoins.

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September 25, 2016, 12:25:13 PM
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But that is not the point. The point was that the merchants that are accepting XMR is decreasing despit the threat of being caught using "transparent BTC". Or maybe they prefer bitcoins + using a tumbling service instead because it is more convenient for them. Whatever the reason is if the merchants accepting XMR is decreasing instead of increasing  then that is not a good sign.

Also your reaction is very much like the Ostrich picture who refuses to listen to feedback.

Any proof for these bolded claims would be nice... otherwise you're just juggling empty airballs...

best regards,

There was actual data posted by someone here in the forum. It was in the XMR speculation thread if I remember correctly. I will look for it and post here when I find it. The  numbers were in fact decreasing at the time of that post. It looked like the darknet market merchants were trying it out and then dropped it. Why that is is another matter. I speculate that most of their customers are still using bitcoins.

Best regards.

Exactly. That is what i said. people are uses to use something they will nto just change overnight. They need a push. And push will come with some news sooner or latter.
This was expected at least to me.  Not sure what kind of feedback i need. There was hype and many merchants offered stuff for XMR. Now that si decreasing. At soem point it will stop or already did. From that point will just slowly increase. Monero development will also help here with small improvements that help users. Last fork made blockchain smaller probably was more useful things there. GUI will also help.

Datas was posted on 13 Sept here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=753252.msg16269149#msg16269149
This user is also a day trader. So he might made them up a bit. I am not saying he did.

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September 26, 2016, 03:42:46 AM
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@Febo. For me the most important thing for the darknet merchants is ease of use. So a good, stable light wallet is needed for XMR. I hope a third party will create one. The existing one is ok but it is not stable yet. It was also pointed out by the one who made it that it is still an alpha release. If there is no light wallet then a GUI will also help a lot. But again there is delay with this. I can see litecoin chasing Monero in the future if the litecoin development team release a good implementation of CT and dynamic block sizes. The current infrastructure of LTC will give them the advantage.

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