I beg to differ. If a user derails your thread even after repeatedly asking him not to post in the thread, you can get a mod to interfere. Nothing wrong with that.
Are you begging to differ with me? I think you misunderstood me if so.
I have no problem with enforcing the rules, especially the ones that keep a thread on topic.
I'm okay with the way it's working right now.I tend to have no-tolerance over some of the Yo-Bit signature posters ,expect a few good ones.I can simply add a warning that members with Yo-Bit signature and low quality posts are not allowed to comment on this thread,your replies may get deleted if I find them spammy.Nothing wrong with that I feel.
I agree with you, we should be able to establish and enforce guidelines to keep threads on topic, troll free etc. My point is that there's no good reason that this can't be don transparently.
No user should be encouraging questions and asking for opinions publicly while privately going to mods to have users blacklisted for bringing up valid issues.
For example:
(this isn't just about Betcoin)
Betcoin refuses to list any rules for their new self-moderated thread other than "no spam" because what they want to delete any post that brings up their scummy behavior. They really just want to bump their thread and peacefully thank their sig campaign shills for all the compliments.
They have never asked me not to post in their thread because that would contradict the transparent image they try to fabricate. Instead they just ask mods to do it for them.
This is what Betcoin wants players to believe (they are referring to me here):
The staff looks at all the work you put in and appreciates your work ethic and commitment. You really should be earning good bitcoin and building equity instead of having everything deleted from Betcoin or moved to the next page of the forum as more posts are added. Ultimately, you just waste time while keeping Betcoin on the front page of the thread which means more traffic, more signature campaign members, etc. We think you have a strong work ethic and could be a great contributor as you once were. The amount of time and energy you have put in so far is truly remarkable. It shows us that we have something special because every great company has people this passionate, but we want to channel your passion to help you more as you once were a great member of the community. We look forward to your thoughts.
We would not stop you, because this is the proper forum for it. We would encourage you as you ask important questions. We are working on a wide variety of things right now from all of our members including you but asking multiple times a day just is not necessary.
You are definitely helping bring in new users and we appreciate it.
Again, I am just the forum rep and this has also been a good experience for me as well.
We would actually much rather have you back in the community. Our staff is working on much of the great feedback you and all of our players have provided. I am the forum rep and as advised by owners, staff etc. going back and forth in a forum is never productive, but staying on the first page in the thread is very beneficial for Betcoin as the referrals from BitcoinTalk have never been higher. We will continue to work hard to make everything as perfect as possible at Betcoin and you will always be welcome back.
They should not be able to pm mods to do their dirty work for them.
A user who blacklists someone from their thread must notify them. A moderator can be an intermediary I suppose, I've actually done so before when explaining self moderated rules to both parties, but it can't be a secret blacklist.
This is good to hear. But it's not whats being enforced.
There are obviously pros and cons to self-modded threads. Obviously scammers and unscrupulous people will abuse them, but they're also useful for honest thread-starters who just want to keep trolls and shitposters out. I would prefer there be more options for self-moderated threads where the OP can either blacklist users from even posting there in the first place or bar entire usergroups from posting and this would cut out Staff having to be involved which is better for everyone. As an example, you could choose to block newbies to stop people from just creating a new account to continue trolling or if you wanted to create a giveaway thread but only allow it to Seniors or Heroes and above or whatever you could do that too.
There are also negatives to creating a self-modded thread though as many people either tend not to post in them or look upon them with suspicion, but I guess that's up to the OP to weigh up the pros and cons but if they're unhappy with the moderation here and want to do it themselves I think that should be their right to do so.
I agree with everything here.
What if self-moderated threads were all grouped together:
Bitcoin Forum > Economy > Marketplace > Gambling > Self-Moderated
