[ANN] Firo (FIRO) - Implementing ZKP privacy without trusted setup

[marseille]

Other existing solutions utilize either coin mixing or ring signatures. Coin mixing in many current implementations involve a lot of trust on the mixer and rely on finding other people to mix with which can take time. Ring signatures are a lot better in that it finds similar transactions of similar denominations to mix with but it means that there's still an element of traceability since the real transaction path is still somewhere in there and other outside data and topological analysis may narrow this down further.

https://github.com/zcoinofficial/zcoin/wiki/How-does-Zcoin-compare-to-other-anonymity-methods%3F

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For coin mixing Supercoin uses multisig and the mixer/guarator are randomly chosen and system is completely trustless. Unfortunately I did not see further development of the tech, otherwise it could be a good one.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1351548.0

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[ybelevi]

hello,

i'm mining 2 xeon 2620, win 2016 srv server.cpu %69-70 is that normal? why cant i use all cpu
im useing ocminer's cpu miner

regards

[JonLord]

Are we touching the floor?

[adhitthana]

Are we touching the floor?

Total market cap once all 21 million coins are released is under $12M now I think.
So pricewise it's more reasonable, but still priced for success.

[adhitthana]

Why won't Roger Ver even fire off a simple tweet about Zcoin? He's favorited one of my Zcoin tweets but he won't make a public statement of support himself.

You'd think a guy $500k invested in this thing would be a bit more proactive....

he realized he was scammed by indonesian vertcoin dev parapin who stole the work from a university colleague.

what a scam zcoin. the best scam of 2016.
Enjoy lambo paparin-poparin-ponjamin or what is your name.

I got all signs at beginning when price was 0.08 and after ONLY 20 days from launch 3 dev addresses were drained. when we asked to dev where those coins was sent the answers was "anon bounties"

Such scam.

How many coins were in those addresses?
As we can now see the size of bounties they are offering.

Dev to help update Bitcoin core code to 0.13 2000 XZC
Develop open source pool software that supports MTP 3000 XZC
GPU miner with MTP algorithm 2000 XZC
CPU miner with MTP algorithm 1500 XZC

[ZimSET]

Are we touching the floor?

Total market cap once all 21 million coins are released is under $12M now I think.
So pricewise it's more reasonable, but still priced for success.

your forgetting that the final coin amount will be in around 9 years.. thats when we will have 21mil

from here it will take us 2months to go from 400k coins to 800k coins.

so give it 7months and we will have around a 800,000usd market cap. tiny for the tech, in comparison to what zcash will have.. around 300million

[zcoinofficial]

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[Daniko7]

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I offer you German translation, if needed. just pm me if necassary...
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[cmaxim23]

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[kamikaza]

Guys, question. Is there any connection between zcoin and zoin?

[Skirmant]

Guys, question. Is there any connection between zcoin and zoin?

It's just a fork of ZCoin

[adhitthana]

Are we touching the floor?

Total market cap once all 21 million coins are released is under $12M now I think.
So pricewise it's more reasonable, but still priced for success.

your forgetting that the final coin amount will be in around 9 years.. thats when we will have 21mil

from here it will take us 2months to go from 400k coins to 800k coins.

so give it 7months and we will have around a 800,000usd market cap. tiny for the tech, in comparison to what zcash will have.. around 300million

Market capilalisation is a measurement designed for equities not for crypto currencies. It is seriously flawed if one uses it to value crypto coins IMHO
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1684276.msg16910985#msg16910985

[drays]

Guys, question. Is there any connection between zcoin and zoin?

It's just a fork of ZCoin

Its funny how this open-source thing works. . Someone spent many months (if not years) developing something, then he publishes it as open-source, and in 1-5 days it is being copied and exploited, often without giving any credit to the original. I know open-source is good, but sometimes it is getting ridiculous. I am coming from closed-source business world myself, and though I like open-source, but sometimes I think there should be limits on that (maybe a grace period of few months/years before the source is opened).

Do you guys think those clones are harming the original or are good for it...? In a perfect world they should help (by working in parallel and finding and fixing issues), but in reality I am not sure...

[zoin]

Guys, question. Is there any connection between zcoin and zoin?

It's just a fork of ZCoin

Its funny how this open-source thing works. . Someone spent many months (if not years) developing something, then he publishes it as open-source, and in 1-5 days it is being copied and exploited, often without giving any credit to the original. I know open-source is good, but sometimes it is getting ridiculous. I am coming from closed-source business world myself, and though I like open-source, but sometimes I think there should be limits on that (maybe a grace period of few months/years before the source is opened).

Do you guys think those clones are harming the original or are good for it...? In a perfect world they should help (by working in parallel and finding and fixing issues), but in reality I am not sure...

I don't want to get involved in this thread, but you'll find quite the opposite.

ZCoin does not give credit to the Zerocoin developers (see Copyright statements in Github and GUI):

https://github.com/zcoinofficial/zcoin/blob/master/README.md

90% of the work done in ZCoin for Zerocoin was from the Zerocoin library:

https://github.com/Zerocoin/libzerocoin

Zoin on the other hand, gives full credit to ZCoin (for their contribution) and ZeroCoin in the Copyright statements and GUI:

https://github.com/zoin/zoin/blob/master/README.md

[landslide]

Guys, question. Is there any connection between zcoin and zoin?

It's just a fork of ZCoin

Its funny how this open-source thing works. . Someone spent many months (if not years) developing something, then he publishes it as open-source, and in 1-5 days it is being copied and exploited, often without giving any credit to the original. I know open-source is good, but sometimes it is getting ridiculous. I am coming from closed-source business world myself, and though I like open-source, but sometimes I think there should be limits on that (maybe a grace period of few months/years before the source is opened).

Do you guys think those clones are harming the original or are good for it...? In a perfect world they should help (by working in parallel and finding and fixing issues), but in reality I am not sure...

I dont think it is a problem. Usually the forked coin has a lot less market cap than the original one, also some clone coin does make improvements on the coin which advances our understanding. So nothing to worry about.

[tomsmith26]

Guys, question. Is there any connection between zcoin and zoin?

It's just a fork of ZCoin

Its funny how this open-source thing works. . Someone spent many months (if not years) developing something, then he publishes it as open-source, and in 1-5 days it is being copied and exploited, often without giving any credit to the original. I know open-source is good, but sometimes it is getting ridiculous. I am coming from closed-source business world myself, and though I like open-source, but sometimes I think there should be limits on that (maybe a grace period of few months/years before the source is opened).

Do you guys think those clones are harming the original or are good for it...? In a perfect world they should help (by working in parallel and finding and fixing issues), but in reality I am not sure...

I don't want to get involved in this thread, but you'll find quite the opposite.

ZCoin does not give credit to the Zerocoin developers (see Copyright statements in Github and GUI):

https://github.com/zcoinofficial/zcoin/blob/master/README.md

90% of the work done in ZCoin for Zerocoin was from the Zerocoin library:

https://github.com/Zerocoin/libzerocoin

Zoin on the other hand, gives full credit to ZCoin (for their contribution) and ZeroCoin in the Copyright statements and GUI:

https://github.com/zoin/zoin/blob/master/README.md

there are two coins here (zcoin and zoin) it 's easily confused.

[miass]

Scroll through the 45 pages and found no solution, there is a normal miner for Windows ? And after all, what is an algorithm? Thank you all for understanding.

[barrysty1e]

Guys, question. Is there any connection between zcoin and zoin?

It's just a fork of ZCoin

Its funny how this open-source thing works. . Someone spent many months (if not years) developing something, then he publishes it as open-source, and in 1-5 days it is being copied and exploited, often without giving any credit to the original. I know open-source is good, but sometimes it is getting ridiculous. I am coming from closed-source business world myself, and though I like open-source, but sometimes I think there should be limits on that (maybe a grace period of few months/years before the source is opened).

Do you guys think those clones are harming the original or are good for it...? In a perfect world they should help (by working in parallel and finding and fixing issues), but in reality I am not sure...

I don't want to get involved in this thread, but you'll find quite the opposite.

ZCoin does not give credit to the Zerocoin developers (see Copyright statements in Github and GUI):

https://github.com/zcoinofficial/zcoin/blob/master/README.md

90% of the work done in ZCoin for Zerocoin was from the Zerocoin library:

https://github.com/Zerocoin/libzerocoin

Zoin on the other hand, gives full credit to ZCoin (for their contribution) and ZeroCoin in the Copyright statements and GUI:

https://github.com/zoin/zoin/blob/master/README.md

its not so much that; implementing libzerocoin in itself is not easy.

it'd be like building a drag car, and then not giving credit to whoever manufactured the pistons, both things are not easy tasks but one won't work without the other.

[ocminer]

Algo was modified after block 8192, therefore a new miner is needed:

https://github.com/ocminer/cpuminer-xzc

I've changed the port on suprnova to 5596 because nobody seems to have updated yet and the old port was flooded with invalid shares.

please download the new miner and use it only on the new port

[doktor83]

wtf why algo change now, i have to change my miners now on 20 computers.