[ANN] Firo (FIRO) - Implementing ZKP privacy without trusted setup

[wtman]

I think poramin will continue with zcoin and gary le will start something like zcoin classic, so you should be able to get both zcoin and zcoin classic coins eventually. Depending upon which project you like, you can dump the other coins if you wish. Good luck to both zcoin and zcoin classic.

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[lukax8]

I think poramin will continue with zcoin and gary le will start something like zcoin classic, so you should be able to get both zcoin and zcoin classic coins eventually. Depending upon which project you like, you can dump the other coins if you wish. Good luck to both zcoin and zcoin classic.

you're right, I also think the same

[ERossin]

I will sell all my coins . it's so boring. and I do not know how this coin will be in the future.
it's very terrible.

[zcoinofficial]

Without getting into personal attacks or specifics in the spirit of keep things civil:

There's been a major disagreement between the two co-founders of the coin Poramin Insom (Lead Dev and Co-Founder) and Gary Le (Co-Founder) as to the direction of the coin and as to how funding is being utilised.

Poramin has done 100% of the coding for Zcoin and will continue to maintain Zcoin at the current github at (https://github.com/zcoinofficial/zcoin). The new website will be at zcoin.finance, the @zcoinofficial twitter at https://twitter.com/zcoinofficial and the BCT thread and Telegram chat room will remain the same.

Gary has started his own Github of the coin forked from Poramin's version at (https://github.com/zcoinproject/zcoin) and will retain control of the Twitter @zcoinproject, Reddit and Zcoin.tech domain.

The differences between the two for the moment will be in as to who the founder's reward is distributed to. Further details can be obtained from our slack at https://zcoinofficial.slack.com and get yourself an invite at http://invite.zcoin.finance:3000/

All coins prior to the fork will be recognized by both Poramin's and Gary's versions of Zcoin so if you maintain both wallets, you will get coins in both. As to who will the exchanges and pools will recognize, that is yet to be seen and we will keep you posted on updates. I understand that Gary's version will contain some modifications as well to his founder's reward from the existing one so exchanges and pools cannot just be stagnant with the current version and will have to make a choice between the two.

If you wish to support Poramin's version of the coin, you can obtain the updated release at https://github.com/zcoinofficial/zcoin/releases.

Thank you for your patience in the matter and I will continue to update you guys on any news here! I know it's a frustrating and tough rode but we believe some short term sacrifices are necessary for the long term growth of the coin. Thank you!

[jwinterm]

Without getting into personal attacks or specifics in the spirit of keep things civil:

There's been a major disagreement between the two co-founders of the coin Poramin Insom (Lead Dev and Co-Founder) and Gary Le (Co-Founder) as to the direction of the coin and as to how funding is being utilised.

Poramin has done 100% of the coding for Zcoin and will continue to maintain Zcoin at the current github at (https://github.com/zcoinofficial/zcoin). The new website will be at zcoin.finance, the @zcoinofficial twitter at https://twitter.com/zcoinofficial and the BCT thread and Telegram chat room will remain the same.

Gary has started his own Github of the coin forked from Poramin's version at (https://github.com/zcoinproject/zcoin) and will retain control of the Twitter @zcoinproject, Reddit and Zcoin.tech domain.

The differences between the two for the moment will be in as to who the founder's reward is distributed to. Further details can be obtained from our slack at https://zcoinofficial.slack.com and get yourself an invite at http://invite.zcoin.finance:3000/

All coins prior to the fork will be recognized by both Poramin's and Gary's versions of Zcoin so if you maintain both wallets, you will get coins in both. As to who will the exchanges and pools will recognize, that is yet to be seen and we will keep you posted on updates. I understand that Gary's version will contain some modifications as well to his founder's reward from the existing one so exchanges and pools cannot just be stagnant with the current version and will have to make a choice between the two.

If you wish to support Poramin's version of the coin, you can obtain the updated release at https://github.com/zcoinofficial/zcoin/releases.

Thank you for your patience in the matter and I will continue to update you guys on any news here! I know it's a frustrating and tough rode but we believe some short term sacrifices are necessary for the long term growth of the coin. Thank you!

You didn't even say who you are or who is controlling this thread (let alone what cause the disagreement and why it escalated to a split). Thanks for clearing things up

[jeremy grol]

Who is controlling this thread?
It seems since month that the one who control this thread doesn't have tech knoweledge.
Only few generic info.

Who's controlling the thread? Which dev? Poram or gary?
A lot of black holes.

[ocminer]

Please guys, stop fighting about the 'right' and 'wrong' dev and fork, just create a new fork, for example xzc classic and remove Gary's founder address from this one while removing poramins founder address from the other fork and upload this into new github repositorys.

Currently you're self destructing the coin by the low info that's flowing to the miners... No one knows what's happening to bittrex etc..  Miners / Pools and the community need final info and plans

[spirea]

i have sold all my XZC and stopped mining this coin, its not serious !

[giagge]

Stop trolling , the coin no dead , im continue mining .

[rowenta01]

Ok this is bad news. But the project continues its march forward! And I still think that the project is of high quality. It was better that it happened now. The project starts quickly on a good basis!

[AizenSou]

Please guys, stop fighting about the 'right' and 'wrong' dev and fork, just create a new fork, for example xzc classic and remove Gary's founder address from this one while removing poramins founder address from the other fork and upload this into new github repositorys.

Currently you're self destructing the coin by the low info that's flowing to the miners... No one knows what's happening to bittrex etc..  Miners / Pools and the community need final info and plans

Why xzc classic ? XZC continues to be the original one. Gary didn't do anything and he forked the original git to his new repo. He even stated that he continues to steal Poramin' work by pulling the code from the original git. Gary' version should be the classic one. 

[AizenSou]

Ok this is bad news. But the project continues its march forward! And I still think that the project is of high quality. It was better that it happened now. The project starts quickly on a good basis!

It's actually good news. We got rid of the biggest dumper who does nothing beside dumping.

[irukandji]

Without getting into personal attacks or specifics in the spirit of keep things civil:

Who are you?

Are you Poramin?  

[zcoinofficial]

It's me Reuben and I'm speaking on Poramins behalf I have been controlling this thread since I took the community manager position. To go into the details of the split would involve a lot of public mud flinging so after speaking to Gary,  we agreed not to do that.

The respective slacks are always there for people to read and make their own conclusions and a lot of info is out there already for people who really want to know.

[cmaxim23]

Im a newbee bagholder.
Someone mention that I can keep coins in both forks. Can some one explain please how to do that? may be a little youtube tutorial to help a brother out?

[irukandji]

delete

[golfhuso]

Without getting into personal attacks or specifics in the spirit of keep things civil:

There's been a major disagreement between the two co-founders of the coin Poramin Insom (Lead Dev and Co-Founder) and Gary Le (Co-Founder) as to the direction of the coin and as to how funding is being utilised.

Poramin has done 100% of the coding for Zcoin and will continue to maintain Zcoin at the current github at (https://github.com/zcoinofficial/zcoin). The new website will be at zcoin.finance, the @zcoinofficial twitter at https://twitter.com/zcoinofficial and the BCT thread and Telegram chat room will remain the same.

Gary has started his own Github of the coin forked from Poramin's version at (https://github.com/zcoinproject/zcoin) and will retain control of the Twitter @zcoinproject, Reddit and Zcoin.tech domain.

The differences between the two for the moment will be in as to who the founder's reward is distributed to. Further details can be obtained from our slack at https://zcoinofficial.slack.com and get yourself an invite at http://invite.zcoin.finance:3000/

All coins prior to the fork will be recognized by both Poramin's and Gary's versions of Zcoin so if you maintain both wallets, you will get coins in both. As to who will the exchanges and pools will recognize, that is yet to be seen and we will keep you posted on updates. I understand that Gary's version will contain some modifications as well to his founder's reward from the existing one so exchanges and pools cannot just be stagnant with the current version and will have to make a choice between the two.

If you wish to support Poramin's version of the coin, you can obtain the updated release at https://github.com/zcoinofficial/zcoin/releases.

Thank you for your patience in the matter and I will continue to update you guys on any news here! I know it's a frustrating and tough rode but we believe some short term sacrifices are necessary for the long term growth of the coin. Thank you!

Well.... imagine Roger's face. It must be priceless. 

[wtman]

I agree with the above too. Gary Le should go ahead with xzc classic. Good luck to XZC and XZC Classic. Let us get back to discussing MTP development again

[Gss2k2]

Wait what exactly is their deferences? They just dont like each other or they want to do something totally different?

[giagge]

Why bittrex have Wallet Maintenance .