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April 22, 2017, 09:40:44 PM
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What is the point about XZC today ?

Technics
We are waiting for a very promising improvement (MTP) :-).
This is a all new improvement and it is probably risquy.

Mining
Mining is largely centralized on an unique pool and at any time a 51% attack can be done !
On the others pools, no more gains with a very high unluck score.

Exchanges/trading
For Bittrex (BTC38 has problems for withdrawing our BTC out of china).
The XZC value is stable since more one week, but there is a very big change : no more buyers wall, even at low price, and the order book is completely empty for the buyers side. The order book has only 25 btc for buyers and 725 btc for sellers (x29). And many sellers are at low price, with big volumes (more than 1800 XZC below 600,000 sats, and not mine).
Look at the graph "order book" : it is spectacular : many peoples want sell XZC but very few want buy XZC.

At any time the price may collapse.

Sorry but I stop mining on SuprNova (too much money lost) and I sold my XZC (too risquy with in one side a potential 51% attack and in the other side an order book completely empty for buyers).

I will be probably back when things will be better for XZC.
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Im not a miner so not educated on your technical analysis but in terms of order books you are not speaking truth at all. right now on Bittrex the amountof BIDS is 218071.703 XZC
And the ASKS are 38287.400 XZC

Thats seems pretty healthy to me for a rising price and demand for this coin by the market....

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April 23, 2017, 10:24:56 AM
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...but in terms of order books you are not speaking truth at all. right now on Bittrex the amountof BIDS is 218071.703 XZC
And the ASKS are 38287.400 XZC

Thats seems pretty healthy to me for a rising price and demand for this coin by the market....
Are you serious Huh

Take a real look at the order book : in the bids side, there are 150,250 bids at 1 satoshi, 24,937 at 2 satoshis, 20,000 at 3 satoshis... and so on : these are "fake" bids.
You can't compare these ridiculous more than 200,000 unreal bids (compared to the 218,416 total at this time) bids with those aroud the market price (600,000 sats) : be serious.
Between 4 satoshis and 600,000 satoshis, the reality is they are only 18,000 bids !!! How many bids beetween 600,000 and 500,000 satoshis (for example) ? Very few !

Look at the order book graph, for example with a 25% price range and you will see how the market is really imbalance and can collapse at any time.

For my part, my XZC are sold now.
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April 23, 2017, 11:20:48 AM
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...but in terms of order books you are not speaking truth at all. right now on Bittrex the amountof BIDS is 218071.703 XZC
And the ASKS are 38287.400 XZC

Thats seems pretty healthy to me for a rising price and demand for this coin by the market....
Are you serious Huh

Take a real look at the order book : in the bids side, there are 150,250 bids at 1 satoshi, 24,937 at 2 satoshis, 20,000 at 3 satoshis... and so on : these are "fake" bids.
You can't compare these ridiculous more than 200,000 unreal bids (compared to the 218,416 total at this time) bids with those aroud the market price (600,000 sats) : be serious.
Between 4 satoshis and 600,000 satoshis, the reality is they are only 18,000 bids !!! How many bids beetween 600,000 and 500,000 satoshis (for example) ? Very few !

Look at the order book graph, for example with a 25% price range and you will see how the market is really imbalance and can collapse at any time.

For my part, my XZC are sold now.

thank you,

We're very happy for you.

You can leave the thread if you want now.

There seems no more reason for you to be here.

Unless you're there just to make the market fall or attack the Zcoin team that really works really well. And that does everything to anticipate future problems. No currency crypto was perfect after only 7 months of existence. But the Zcoin is a very good piece, full of promise and ambition!

Good day to you,

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April 23, 2017, 04:44:17 PM
Last edit: April 23, 2017, 05:25:36 PM by chraibi
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Hi,
i'm newbie in zcoin and i really like this coin, it's promising.

I want to know why price is very Low in some markets like Tradesatoshi.com : https://tradesatoshi.com/Exchange?market=XZC_BTC

the price is about 0.0047 BTC for one XZC  ?

Thanks
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April 23, 2017, 08:26:31 PM
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Awfully quiet around zcoin :/ whats going on any news ?
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April 23, 2017, 10:28:08 PM
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April 24, 2017, 01:16:24 AM
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Hi,
For Chinese miners, you can try our Zcoin mining pool:
http://xzc.newpool.top

欢迎中国的矿工兄弟们使用我们的零币挖矿矿池:
http://xzc.newpool.top
还有其它山寨币币种,详见:
http://www.newpool.top/
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April 24, 2017, 07:00:36 AM
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Hi,
i'm newbie in zcoin and i really like this coin, it's promising.

I want to know why price is very Low in some markets like Tradesatoshi.com : https://tradesatoshi.com/Exchange?market=XZC_BTC

the price is about 0.0047 BTC for one XZC  ?

Thanks

Yes, it's very cheap now, guy. If you have your money there then you go buy all batchs under 0.005btc immediately and you get a big profit when you transfer zcoin to bittrex exchange for selling. it's very easy to make money , guy.
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April 24, 2017, 02:06:40 PM
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Hi,
For Chinese miners, you can try our Zcoin mining pool:
http://xzc.newpool.top

欢迎中国的矿工兄弟们使用我们的零币挖矿矿池:
http://xzc.newpool.top
还有其它山寨币币种,详见:
http://www.newpool.top/


6卡 470 ETH矿机挖这个收益一天有多少?
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April 25, 2017, 11:09:36 AM
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Hi,
i'm newbie in zcoin and i really like this coin, it's promising.

I want to know why price is very Low in some markets like Tradesatoshi.com : https://tradesatoshi.com/Exchange?market=XZC_BTC

the price is about 0.0047 BTC for one XZC  ?

Thanks

Yes, it's very cheap now, guy. If you have your money there then you go buy all batchs under 0.005btc immediately and you get a big profit when you transfer zcoin to bittrex exchange for selling. it's very easy to make money , guy.

I'm waiting for new price to buy more zcoins. it's really hard to make zcoin down under 0.005btc at this time unless MTP algo was not done by Devs .
I still believe in this project and I will support this coin.
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April 25, 2017, 07:06:50 PM
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Hi,
i'm newbie in zcoin and i really like this coin, it's promising.

I want to know why price is very Low in some markets like Tradesatoshi.com : https://tradesatoshi.com/Exchange?market=XZC_BTC

the price is about 0.0047 BTC for one XZC  ?

Thanks

Yes, it's very cheap now, guy. If you have your money there then you go buy all batchs under 0.005btc immediately and you get a big profit when you transfer zcoin to bittrex exchange for selling. it's very easy to make money , guy.

I'm waiting for new price to buy more zcoins. it's really hard to make zcoin down under 0.005btc at this time unless MTP algo was not done by Devs .
I still believe in this project and I will support this coin.
on the exchange tradesatoshi status xzc - Maintenance, and for a long time already
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April 26, 2017, 02:26:08 AM
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Hi,
For Chinese miners, you can try our Zcoin mining pool:
http://xzc.newpool.top

欢迎中国的矿工兄弟们使用我们的零币挖矿矿池:
http://xzc.newpool.top
还有其它山寨币币种,详见:
http://www.newpool.top/


6卡 470 ETH矿机挖这个收益一天有多少?

A卡目前挖这个币效率不高,可以等换MTP算法之后再看看。
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April 26, 2017, 03:56:20 AM
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Hi,
i'm newbie in zcoin and i really like this coin, it's promising.

I want to know why price is very Low in some markets like Tradesatoshi.com : https://tradesatoshi.com/Exchange?market=XZC_BTC

the price is about 0.0047 BTC for one XZC  ?

Thanks

Yes, it's very cheap now, guy. If you have your money there then you go buy all batchs under 0.005btc immediately and you get a big profit when you transfer zcoin to bittrex exchange for selling. it's very easy to make money , guy.

I'm waiting for new price to buy more zcoins. it's really hard to make zcoin down under 0.005btc at this time unless MTP algo was not done by Devs .
I still believe in this project and I will support this coin.
on the exchange tradesatoshi status xzc - Maintenance, and for a long time already

Just go to buy zcoin at the bittrex exchnage. it's a big and trustable exchange .
You can buy many zcoins if you want  and you never feel disappointed with this exchange.
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April 26, 2017, 04:24:33 PM
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Hi,
i'm newbie in zcoin and i really like this coin, it's promising.

I want to know why price is very Low in some markets like Tradesatoshi.com : https://tradesatoshi.com/Exchange?market=XZC_BTC

the price is about 0.0047 BTC for one XZC  ?

Thanks
Caution
Tradesatoshi.com is not a serious exchange : a lot of wallet in maintenance unclipping Zcoin wallet if you buy some XZC at tradesatoshi you can not withdraw them i have experienced that before. the only solution a got is to loose some btcs and sell al XZC cheap to withdraw BTC.
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April 26, 2017, 05:26:55 PM
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...but in terms of order books you are not speaking truth at all. right now on Bittrex the amountof BIDS is 218071.703 XZC
And the ASKS are 38287.400 XZC

Thats seems pretty healthy to me for a rising price and demand for this coin by the market....
Are you serious Huh

Take a real look at the order book : in the bids side, there are 150,250 bids at 1 satoshi, 24,937 at 2 satoshis, 20,000 at 3 satoshis... and so on : these are "fake" bids.
You can't compare these ridiculous more than 200,000 unreal bids (compared to the 218,416 total at this time) bids with those aroud the market price (600,000 sats) : be serious.
Between 4 satoshis and 600,000 satoshis, the reality is they are only 18,000 bids !!! How many bids beetween 600,000 and 500,000 satoshis (for example) ? Very few !

Look at the order book graph, for example with a 25% price range and you will see how the market is really imbalance and can collapse at any time.

For my part, my XZC are sold now.

Thanks to people like you I bought more ZCoin, I will laugh at you when price hits 50$. Bye bye Smiley
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April 26, 2017, 06:47:50 PM
Last edit: April 27, 2017, 09:58:00 AM by ZenFr
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...but in terms of order books you are not speaking truth at all. right now on Bittrex the amountof BIDS is 218071.703 XZC
And the ASKS are 38287.400 XZC

Thats seems pretty healthy to me for a rising price and demand for this coin by the market....
Are you serious Huh

Take a real look at the order book : in the bids side, there are 150,250 bids at 1 satoshi, 24,937 at 2 satoshis, 20,000 at 3 satoshis... and so on : these are "fake" bids.
You can't compare these ridiculous more than 200,000 unreal bids (compared to the 218,416 total at this time) bids with those aroud the market price (600,000 sats) : be serious.
Between 4 satoshis and 600,000 satoshis, the reality is they are only 18,000 bids !!! How many bids beetween 600,000 and 500,000 satoshis (for example) ? Very few !

Look at the order book graph, for example with a 25% price range and you will see how the market is really imbalance and can collapse at any time.

For my part, my XZC are sold now.

Thanks to people like you I bought more ZCoin, I will laugh at you when price hits 50$. Bye bye Smiley
Your welcome :-).
Thank you to you : you bought my ZCoin at a very good price.
Now, the price has fallen and I can already redeem them with a good profit.
Should I laugh like you ?
Should I laugh even more in the next days if the price goes down again and again and my profit grows more when I redeem them :-) ?

Your post was not friendly.

For information :
 - just now, and for the last 24 hours (source : CoinMarketCap) : XZC/BTC -3,28%  (I buy and I sell my XZC in BTC).
 - orderbook Bittrex : 30 BTC bids / 750 BTC asks
 - orderbook graph with a 25% price range : 17 BTC bids / 60 BTC asks

Update 04/27 11h56 (France time) :  for the last 24 hours (source : CoinMarketCap) : XZC/BTC -5,15%  (I buy and I sell my XZC in BTC).
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April 28, 2017, 02:44:30 AM
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Hi, All.
Who mine xzc on minigpoolhub with ccminer on nVidia cards? Need your healp
I have some problems with this pool: stratum difficulty is changes too often and due to this my share rate is about half of the amount that should be (2-5 shres per minute, while on suprniova same hardware pulls average 7 shares per minute).
In the end: earnings in xzc about 15% less then should (calculating average difficulty and hashrate).
BTW on suprnova pool the same hardware gives about double shares to pool. but I don't like to mine xzc on suprnova due to very low pool's hashrate

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April 28, 2017, 12:24:58 PM
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Hi, All.
Who mine xzc on minigpoolhub with ccminer on nVidia cards? Need your healp
I have some problems with this pool: stratum difficulty is changes too often and due to this my share rate is about half of the amount that should be (2-5 shres per minute, while on suprniova same hardware pulls average 7 shares per minute).
In the end: earnings in xzc about 15% less then should (calculating average difficulty and hashrate).
BTW on suprnova pool the same hardware gives about double shares to pool. but I don't like to mine xzc on suprnova due to very low pool's hashrate
https://i.imgur.com/MBM0yiR.png
https://i.imgur.com/aUkFkWo.png

Hey xs.over,
Just curious do you have that card overclocked? The Mhz it is showing is higher than my stock evga 1070 gtx.
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April 28, 2017, 12:39:28 PM
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Hi, All.
Who mine xzc on minigpoolhub with ccminer on nVidia cards? Need your healp
I have some problems with this pool: stratum difficulty is changes too often and due to this my share rate is about half of the amount that should be (2-5 shres per minute, while on suprniova same hardware pulls average 7 shares per minute).
In the end: earnings in xzc about 15% less then should (calculating average difficulty and hashrate).
BTW on suprnova pool the same hardware gives about double shares to pool. but I don't like to mine xzc on suprnova due to very low pool's hashrate



And that's the problem everyone has with distributing the hashrate Smiley

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April 28, 2017, 12:52:22 PM
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Hi, All.
Who mine xzc on minigpoolhub with ccminer on nVidia cards? Need your healp
I have some problems with this pool: stratum difficulty is changes too often and due to this my share rate is about half of the amount that should be (2-5 shres per minute, while on suprniova same hardware pulls average 7 shares per minute).
In the end: earnings in xzc about 15% less then should (calculating average difficulty and hashrate).
BTW on suprnova pool the same hardware gives about double shares to pool. but I don't like to mine xzc on suprnova due to very low pool's hashrate

And that's the problem everyone has with distributing the hashrate Smiley
@OCMiner : I think your wrong here OCMiner : the problem does not exist with the CPUMining where difficulty is very stable.

@ XS.Over : what exact software do you have for the NVidia mining ?
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