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[freshzive]

So on these long blocks, my reward actually decreases overtime? I don't remember that happening on YourBTC

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[ThiagoCMC]

So on these long blocks, my reward actually decreases overtime? I don't remember that happening on YourBTC

I noted this too...

Some days receive I virtually nothing?!

For example, if a round have a duration of 24H, I'll earn the same if the round ended in 16 min...

At the end of month, maybe will be the same earning of mining in a bigger pool...

[ThiagoCMC]

Also,

 I like the payment based on the Shared Maximum Pay-Per-Share method described by Eligius, used in ArsBitcoin too.

 Seems more constant... Don't know why exactly... lol

 It have (SimpleCoin) with 24H est. reward enabled...   

Best!
Thiago

[bitfoo]

So on these long blocks, my reward actually decreases overtime? I don't remember that happening on YourBTC

This is probably because of the recent increase in the pool hash rate, so there are more people competing for the reward. We should also be solving blocks a bit faster now because of this.

[Inaba]

Yes, your reward estimate has decreased due to the hashrate (for example, at 150 GH/s my typical estimated reward is about 4.3 BTC, now with the 190 - 200 GH/s, my estimated reward is 3.7 BTC)..

Bitfoo is correct that we should be solving blocks faster, so while your reward is smaller, it's more frequent to make up for it.

[freshzive]

Guess we've just had some bad luck recently...that 23H block was no fun

[ThiagoCMC]

Hope to EclipseMC hitting 300GHash!
To see if there is a little more frequency on finding blocks...
I'll do my best to help EclipseMC in opening a mirror in Brazil... If desired...  

Cheers!
Thiago

[ThiagoCMC]

SMS isn't working!!

[freshzive]

SMS isn't working!!

I got an SMS for that last block

[ThiagoCMC]

SMS isn't working!!

I got an SMS for that last block

I'm not... Lost SMS for the last two blocks... 
I'll test my cellphone...

[Inaba]

I received SMS as well.  Were you getting them before?

[stick_theman]

Hey guys, I'm unsure of the payout system.  What's unconfirmed, confirmed and cashout amount?

My guess is, cashout amount is the amount you earned at this point, unconfirmed amount is waiting for the 120th block, meaning, what you will get in the next 24 hours, and confirmed amount is ....?

I looked into EMC's tech discussion board, and I wasn't able to find this.

Is there a way to check your historical (last 24 hours) btc amount earned?

Thanks,
J

[gnar1ta$]

Hey guys, I'm unsure of the payout system.  What's unconfirmed, confirmed and cashout amount?

My guess is, cashout amount is the amount you earned at this point, unconfirmed amount is waiting for the 120th block, meaning, what you will get in the next 24 hours, and confirmed amount is ....?

I looked into EMC's tech discussion board, and I wasn't able to find this.

Is there a way to check your historical (last 24 hours) btc amount earned?

Thanks,
J

Confirmed has 120 blocks and can be paid out with auto payout or manually with pay me buttons (they will turn red when you have confirmed balance).  Cashout will pay total of confirmed + unconfirmed - fee (and reset your score).  You can check block stats to see your historical earnings/block.

@Inaba
Your going to have a lot more work with all the new users, hope the donations went up so this pool doesn't join the others.  Great pool, thanks for maintaing it.

[Inaba]

gnar1t$ summed it up nicely.

Confirmed is your payout that you can get right now with the Pay Me button(s) in either BTC or PPUSD (or NMC/BTC buttons in the case of NMC).  The unconfirmed amount is the amount that you've "earned" subject to 120 block validations before it's released.  This is done to make sure the block does not go invalid prior to the minimum number of confirmations.  This is a hard limit built into the Bitcoin client, not an arbitrary decision I made, and most pools subscribe to that (at least those that aren't PPS based).

Your cashout button is a special feature that will cashout all of your earned income at once, including your unrealized score.  Your unrealized score and unconfirmed balance are subject to a 10% fee, due to the increased risk that the pool undertakes when the cashout option is used (for example, if a block were to go invalid after you used the cashout, you would still be paid for that block, even though no one else would be).  However, your confirmed balance, when using cashout, is not subject to this fee.

120 block validations take anywhere from 15 - 20 hours usually on average before they go into confirmed status.

There is not really a way to check 24 hours of earning directly, other than looking at the Blocks Stats page, which tells you how much you earned each block.  I will, however, be implementing a 24 hour earned amount in the Quick Stats box in the next couple days, so look for that soon.

Your going to have a lot more work with all the new users, hope the donations went up so this pool doesn't join the others.  Great pool, thanks for maintaing it.

The pool won't be going anywhere, don't worry about that.  The new users are nice for variance that's for sure... hopefully we can get some good ideas flowing for added features (not that we have a lack of good ideas already) - but the more the merrier.  As far as donations go, since June I've received approximately 28 BTC in donations... definitely not going to get rich on running a pool, hah!

[stick_theman]

Thank you guys!  Appreciate the detailed explanations.

[bitfoo]

Inaba, do you keep records of the number of stale shares submitted as well? It would be very useful to see these figures on the block history table, for mining contract accounting purposes. Per worker stales would also be a useful stat.

As far as donations go, since June I've received approximately 28 BTC in donations... definitely not going to get rich on running a pool, hah!

You could implement something like yourbtc.net - 3% donation for "VIP membership", which pays out for blocks without waiting for 120 confirms. I'm sure some people would up their donations to get this.

[Meni Rosenfeld]

Hey guys, I'm unsure of the payout system.  What's unconfirmed, confirmed and cashout amount?

I'll take a shot at making this even clearer:

Score = How much you will get for every future block. The exact amount you'll get out of this depends on the number of blocks that will be found and is thus random.

Unconfirmed = Rewards for blocks which were already found but didn't mature yet.

Confirmed = Rewards for blocks which already matured.

Normal withdrawals are from the confirmed balance only.
Cashout is confirmed + unconfirmed + score - fee, where the fee is applied only to the unconfirmed and score.

[Inaba]

Inaba, do you keep records of the number of stale shares submitted as well? It would be very useful to see these figures on the block history table, for mining contract accounting purposes. Per worker stales would also be a useful stat.

As far as donations go, since June I've received approximately 28 BTC in donations... definitely not going to get rich on running a pool, hah!

You could implement something like yourbtc.net - 3% donation for "VIP membership", which pays out for blocks without waiting for 120 confirms. I'm sure some people would up their donations to get this.

I do keep track of the stale statistics on a per block/per miner basis.  I will look at exposing that data right now.  I don't have the facility in place to track stales on the reset column though.  I'll see about adding that functionality a well.

[ThiagoCMC]

URGENT!!

https://eclipsemc.com/block_stats.php ERROR!

Cheers,
Thiago

[Inaba]

Yeah I broke it trying to add the stales in.  Would be nice if you removed the SQL code though! Should be fixed now.

I need to make some internal changes to accommodate the stale display.  The way I'm tracking it now is not conducive to display on a per user basis, only as an aggregate.