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April 03, 2013, 02:59:08 PM
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davout give us a shoutout PLEASE We wanna know what your doing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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April 03, 2013, 03:12:53 PM
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I'm wondering if I'm the only one who attempted to withdraw my coins from instawallet at the unfortunate day of 01.04?

I was not holding any coins there, but tried to tumble some. I sent the coins in, and as soon as they confirmed tried to withdraw
them. The wallet balance went to 0, but the coins never arrived at destination  - the transactions were never broadcast.
Then in about 6-8 hours, instawallet goes down "for maintenance."



I'm afraid I'm even more screwed then those who were  just holding their coins on instawallet.
Unless we all lose all, that is.

The coins from my deposit address were tumbled away into instawallet cold storage, and from there
to the address they claim to have "exclusive control" over. So they are probably
not lost. The question is whether I can get them back though.

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April 03, 2013, 03:15:21 PM
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I'm wondering if I'm the only one who attempted to withdraw my coins from instawallet at the unfortunate day of 01.04?

I was not holding any coins there, but tried to tumble some. I sent the coins in, and as soon as they confirmed tried to withdraw
them. The wallet balance went to 0, but the coins never arrived at destination  - the transactions were never broadcast.
Then in about 6-8 hours, instawallet goes down "for maintenance."



I'm afraid I'm even more screwed then those who were  just holding their coins on instawallet.
Unless we all lose all, that is.

The coins from my deposit address were tumbled away into instawallet cold storage, and from there
to the address they claim to have "exclusive control" over. So they are probably
not lost. The question is whether I can get them back though.

I also had funds on the way out. It had happened before that it would take 24 hours so I wasn't worried.

We shall see. Fingers crossed and good luck mate.
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April 03, 2013, 03:17:41 PM
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na they will have a record of it  Wink
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April 03, 2013, 03:17:58 PM
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I checked my address using https://blockchain.info.  They left me a few satoshis men.  Angry Angry Grin

I tried to follow the trail, but I couldn't see it end up on the address posted at bitcoin-central.
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April 03, 2013, 03:20:58 PM
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The coins from my deposit address were tumbled away into instawallet cold storage, and from there
to the address they claim to have "exclusive control" over. So they are probably
not lost. The question is whether I can get them back though.

Thx for the info.  Without feedback from ~davout, paytuna, or whatever it is natural that people will speculate.

I would hypothesis that if any of the services that these guys ran were robbed, it may be Instawallet users who end up paying the bill.  The other services seemed to be (and were) more important where-as Instawallet was always advertised to be of only moderate security.


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April 03, 2013, 03:23:05 PM
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Who thinks davout has gone rouge and has left paris to live in asia with his 45,000 bitcoins !! thats a good fresh start that is!!
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April 03, 2013, 03:29:22 PM
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Who thinks davout has gone rouge and has left paris to live in asia with his 45,000 bitcoins !! thats a good fresh start that is!!

It seems a perfectly valid hypothesis at this point.  There are many other hypotheses with this rating however.


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April 03, 2013, 03:39:33 PM
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Who thinks davout has gone rouge and has left paris to live in asia with his 45,000 bitcoins !! thats a good fresh start that is!!

It seems a perfectly valid hypothesis at this point.  There are many other hypotheses with this rating however.



Is his real identity known?
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April 03, 2013, 03:42:26 PM
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Well guys I made a small investigation about the guy "davout" .

So first of all the domain bitcoin-central.net is registered under the following details:

Domain name: bitcoin-central.net

Registrant:
  W3BFLOWS SARL
  FRANCOIS DAVID
  34 CHARLES CHEFSON
  BOIS-COLOMBES, 92270
  FR
  +33.668242163
  x7kfp9c2o1j0ynegf3ym@h.o-w-o.info

Administrative Contact:
  W3BFLOWS SARL
  FRANCOIS Michel
  34 rue Charles Chefson
  Bois Colombes, 92270
  FR
  +33.672332684
  650cpyijxhkip452kqfs@l.o-w-o.info

where "W3BFLOWS SARL" is the company behind bitcoin-central:

Company: W3BFLOWS SARL
Address: FRANCOIS DAVID 34 CHARLES CHEFSON BOIS-COLOMBES, 92270 FR
Phone: +33.668242163


and it seems that FRANCOIS DAVID is the official representative.   FRANCOIS DAVID is  our guy : davout ( https://github.com/davout). That guy is also the CTO in Paymium (http://paymium.com/about/)

Well I dont want to extract any particular cocnclusions. I am just giving out some information that I have found publicly online
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April 03, 2013, 03:42:36 PM
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BTW: Instawallet charges no fee. What's their business model? Somebody could explain?

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April 03, 2013, 03:44:42 PM
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I find it so amazing that you could put the 45,000 btc [ $6,359,000] on a paper wallet and put it in your pocket and go anywhere in the world!!
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April 03, 2013, 03:47:43 PM
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Well guys I made a small investigation about our guy "davout" .

So first of all the domain bitcoin-central.net is registered under the following details:

Domain name: bitcoin-central.net

Registrant:
  W3BFLOWS SARL
  FRANCOIS DAVID
  34 CHARLES CHEFSON
  BOIS-COLOMBES, 92270
  FR
  +33.668242163
  x7kfp9c2o1j0ynegf3ym@h.o-w-o.info

Administrative Contact:
  W3BFLOWS SARL
  FRANCOIS Michel
  34 rue Charles Chefson
  Bois Colombes, 92270
  FR
  +33.672332684
  650cpyijxhkip452kqfs@l.o-w-o.info

where "W3BFLOWS SARL" is the company behind bitcoin-central:

Company: W3BFLOWS SARL
Address: FRANCOIS DAVID 34 CHARLES CHEFSON BOIS-COLOMBES, 92270 FR
Phone: +33.668242163


and it seems that FRANCOIS DAVID is the official representative.   FRANCOIS DAVID is  our guy : davout ( https://github.com/davout). That guy is also the CTO in Paymium (http://paymium.com/about/)

Well I dont want to extract any particular cocnclusions. But at least now we know who is the guy we should be looking for in case something really bad happens  Wink

Which I am still hoping is not the case.

I imagine in a situation like this some element of media silence is needed. Especially if you don't want to say something that might turn out to be wrong later.

Lets just hope he is as decent as he has seemed before. Smiley
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April 03, 2013, 03:54:20 PM
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Well guys I made a small investigation about our guy "davout" .

So first of all the domain bitcoin-central.net is registered under the following details:

Domain name: bitcoin-central.net

Registrant:
  W3BFLOWS SARL
  FRANCOIS DAVID
  34 CHARLES CHEFSON
  BOIS-COLOMBES, 92270
  FR
  +33.668242163
  x7kfp9c2o1j0ynegf3ym@h.o-w-o.info

Administrative Contact:
  W3BFLOWS SARL
  FRANCOIS Michel
  34 rue Charles Chefson
  Bois Colombes, 92270
  FR
  +33.672332684
  650cpyijxhkip452kqfs@l.o-w-o.info

where "W3BFLOWS SARL" is the company behind bitcoin-central:

Company: W3BFLOWS SARL
Address: FRANCOIS DAVID 34 CHARLES CHEFSON BOIS-COLOMBES, 92270 FR
Phone: +33.668242163


and it seems that FRANCOIS DAVID is the official representative.   FRANCOIS DAVID is  our guy : davout ( https://github.com/davout). That guy is also the CTO in Paymium (http://paymium.com/about/)

Well I dont want to extract any particular cocnclusions. But at least now we know who is the guy we should be looking for in case something really bad happens  Wink

Which I am still hoping is not the case.

I imagine in a situation like this some element of media silence is needed. Especially if you don't want to say something that might turn out to be wrong later.

Lets just hope he is as decent as he has seemed before. Smiley

steelboy you are right. I want to make myself clear that I am not blaming anybody . I just give out some information that I found publicly online

I was also about to say that Paymiym seems a reliable company since on their webpage all the board members appear.

However I still think that the official representative of the company should regulalry update and inform the clients. In this case we are lacking essential update on a crucial issue.
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April 03, 2013, 03:57:31 PM
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JUST SPOKE TO DAVOUT
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April 03, 2013, 03:58:38 PM
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hes about to make a update this second!!
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April 03, 2013, 03:59:21 PM
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hes about to make a update this second!!
Really appreciate your effort!
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April 03, 2013, 04:02:37 PM
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hes about to make a update this second!!

That's due. The 48 hours since "Expect normal service to resume within 48 hours." have just about passed  Tongue How did you get in touch, though? Are you sure it's not some perp with that nickname on one of the IRC servers trying to pull your leg? Wink

Thanks for letting us all know though! Appreciated Smiley
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April 03, 2013, 04:04:47 PM
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hes about to make a update this second!!

That's due. The 48 hours since "Expect normal service to resume within 48 hours." have just about passed  Tongue How did you get in touch, though? Are you sure it's not some perp with that nickname on one of the IRC servers trying to pull your leg? Wink

Thanks for letting us all know though! Appreciated Smiley

They are hacked and lost bitcoin!!They will close this this business and go the "claim" process!!
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April 03, 2013, 04:10:20 PM
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They are hacked and lost bitcoin!!They will close this this business and go the "claim" process!!

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