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October 12, 2016, 02:00:02 PM
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NOTE: This is simply a reference, so I have something to reference if it ever gets taken up.
Edit: Btw, He want me to pay to get the trust removed. I don't know if it is against something, I just wanted it mentioned.

Who are we talking about.
An user named: Atari---, who has been asked for loans the last month or so with recoverable collateral. This isn't want I'm going to discuss, but rather that he decided to post false negative trust on my trust page.

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Told me to send him a small amount of coins first for trust then he'd loan me.. He never loaned me and took the money

1: No reference attached to the feedback. I can't find any reference myself when searching in my recent post history.

2: Communication which triggered this reaction:
Need 4$ btc
Repay 6.50$ btc
Collateral: Netflix and my account here.
48hrs
Your account isn't worth a lot and your Netflix account is recoverable. I have also stated that I don't accept online accounts in my main post. I have also read multiple of your other posts and I see no reason you can't wait 2 days.
Denied.
Still need
I guess you didn't read my message:
Your account isn't worth a lot and your Netflix account is recoverable. I have also stated that I don't accept online accounts in my main post. I have also read multiple of your other posts and I see no reason you can't wait 2 days.
Denied.
Why havn't you repaid yourself yet? You said you were going to be able repaid within 2 days.
I'm not stupid, neither are other lenders. Get your shit together and take 2 steps up. Now you aren't a scammer anymore and you can get a job which provides you with money.
Why haven't I paid myself back yet??.. You a moron?? And I'm not the only one with red trust *points at you* and you have no proof I'm a scammer.. Just a judgmental assumption. Never been loaned, so how would I scam? Sold my Netflix account legitimately and verified by OPs.. Was that a scam? No... So. Shut your fucking face

Red trust got triggered here and I took it into message to avoid destroying my thread with unserious messages.

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Hi Atari---,
I would like to know if you can point me to your reference for your feedback. If you can't give me one, I will need to take another step to make sure your account gets worthless. Even more then it currently is.

If you want to even have the slighest change of getting your loan, I would advise you to remove your feedback.

Thank you
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Goodluck. Loan me and I'll take it off. Watch the way you speak to people and mind your own fucking business. I'm not a fucking scammer. I got that feedback the first day I opened account because I didn't know the rules of collateral. Was just ass holes who think their God because they have a good rep. Not even a chance or, explain the rules before putting bad feedback. That's fair right?.. No.. It's not. So if you want to apologize and give me my loan. Sure. Otherwise. Bye
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I can't apologise for what I said. It is too late and I'm meaning everything I said. If you are able to prove me wrong, I will post a public apology on the forum.

I can however solve your problem contained within your trust issue. If you can point me towards a transaction ID, I will sent it back to where it came from.

I will be taking this one step future and I will create a scam accusation against you. This is simply to ensure your negative trust has no influence on my potential clients.

Have a nice day.
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Not even reading your bull shit. Send the money or keep the feedback. Like I care

 2.1: Above is all communication, nothing mentioned about send first for trust or anything else.

3: If I missed something, I can resend the "trust" amount to the address which sent it.

Thank you for reading. If you got a few spare seconds, you can post a trust message on Atari---'s page, containing this thread as reference.

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October 12, 2016, 02:10:33 PM
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Reserved, I might want this spot to take up some important point or something.

Moved to Reputation as popular demand.

This is what a baby fight looks like.I mean really,you shouldn't be bothered about untrusted feedbacks,especially without references.He is taking your case and you're feeding the troll.What should he be negative repped for ? Can we call it a extortion? Pretty stupid right ?IMHO,lock the thread,get used to the troll feeds.
I simply wanted to post feedback on his account as well. It is like getting punched in the face by someone weak. Does it hurt? No. Would you like to punch back? Yes.

I run an active lending thread and one of the first things interested lender look at, is my trust page. It is my public face and it is the go to place if you want to see earlier deals, by other borrowers who appreciated my service. I will return to this later. I don't know if you have studied marketing, if you havn't, I can write a quick introduction to it.

The most important aspect is: Know your audience. I pull information from all lenders along with my own. I look at grammar, account age, trust feedback (both send and received) and a lot more. I'm (or was, takes a lot of time and I got the data I want) analysing 50% of all loan request made. I use this information to find out who are borrowing from whom.

Ok, that is fair and square. What is the connection to this post?
   Back to my audience. It mostly consists of new comers. They will be thinking, "Is it really worth lending". It is like a kid tasting candy. Give them the sweetest and most delicious and they will come back, guarantied. From this information I can come up with some main aspects I need to focus on. They are fast, easy and cheap. They will probably be on in the next 2 hours, that is my time frame. The easy part differes from borrower to borrower, but giving them a template and a thread that takes 2 minute to scan is part of it.

Again, are you even reading my post?
   If I need to be honest. No, it contains too many question marks and I'm now regretting I didn't make this self moderated. (On-topic) I mentioned the easy part before. I want to return to it again.
   My lenders need to know if they are able to trust me. I got a simple text, "Founder of Vector and Margin." below my profile image. 1 min. They can see "Trust", click on that and they get taken to my trust page. 3 min. Scrolling up and down the thread and looking inside it. 5 min. If it takes any longer, I'm not on top of their lists anymore. 40% of the time spent thinking about taking the loan was used on my trust page. Remember, they have no experience with the trust page and See why it is important?
   So what do you think?

And, btw. I have received 3 · 0.008 BTC just because of the posts in this topic. I got paid to write about this issue. Just like you got paid to post the stupid crap above.

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Gentlemen,  I do believe we all saw this coming a mile away, did we not?  I mean, he kept opening a zillion threads asking for loans withhos red-splattered account as collateral.   So we knew he was a scammer.   But thank you,  frilledshark for making the scam accusation official. 
Thank you. At least someone appreciated it.

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October 12, 2016, 10:42:26 PM
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since I do not see that the transaction was carried out, or the victims financially, so I suggest move this thread to reputation section.

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October 12, 2016, 11:42:17 PM
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I don't think he knows that there is accusation against him yet. Roll Eyes
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1644804.0

He is going FULL_RETARD on selling now! Shocked
Right before the curtains close. Wink
Too get as much as he can squeeze out of that account I guess. Roll Eyes
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October 13, 2016, 01:25:53 AM
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since I do not see that the transaction was carried out, or the victims financially, so I suggest move this thread to reputation section.

I'd have to agree. He hasn't scammed anyone (that we of / yet) so this should be in reputation.

He is going FULL_RETARD on selling now! Shocked

So it would appear!
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October 13, 2016, 06:41:06 PM
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This is what a baby fight looks like.I mean really,you shouldn't be bothered about untrusted feedbacks,especially without references.He is taking your case and you're feeding the troll.What should he be negative repped for ? Can we call it a extortion? Pretty stupid right ?IMHO,lock the thread,get used to the troll feeds.

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October 13, 2016, 06:56:07 PM
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Gentlemen,  I do believe we all saw this coming a mile away, did we not?  I mean, he kept opening a zillion threads asking for loans withhos red-splattered account as collateral.   So we knew he was a scammer.   But thank you,  frilledshark for making the scam accusation official. 

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October 13, 2016, 07:50:27 PM
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This is what a baby fight looks like.I mean really,you shouldn't be bothered about untrusted feedbacks,especially without references.He is taking your case and you're feeding the troll.What should he be negative repped for ? Can we call it a extortion? Pretty stupid right ?IMHO,lock the thread,get used to the troll feeds.
I simply wanted to post feedback on his account as well. It is like getting punched in the face by someone weak. Does it hurt? No. Would you like to punch back? Yes.

I run an active lending thread and one of the first things interested lender look at, is my trust page. It is my public face and it is the go to place if you want to see earlier deals, by other borrowers who appreciated my service. I will return to this later. I don't know if you have studied marketing, if you havn't, I can write a quick introduction to it.

The most important aspect is: Know your audience. I pull information from all lenders along with my own. I look at grammar, account age, trust feedback (both send and received) and a lot more. I'm (or was, takes a lot of time and I got the data I want) analysing 50% of all loan request made. I use this information to find out who are borrowing from whom.

Ok, that is fair and square. What is the connection to this post?
   Back to my audience. It mostly consists of new comers. They will be thinking, "Is it really worth lending". It is like a kid tasting candy. Give them the sweetest and most delicious and they will come back, guarantied. From this information I can come up with some main aspects I need to focus on. They are fast, easy and cheap. They will probably be on in the next 2 hours, that is my time frame. The easy part differes from borrower to borrower, but giving them a template and a thread that takes 2 minute to scan is part of it.

Again, are you even reading my post?
   If I need to be honest. No, it contains too many question marks and I'm now regretting I didn't make this self moderated. (On-topic) I mentioned the easy part before. I want to return to it again.
   My lenders need to know if they are able to trust me. I got a simple text, "Founder of Vector and Margin." below my profile image. 1 min. They can see "Trust", click on that and they get taken to my trust page. 3 min. Scrolling up and down the thread and looking inside it. 5 min. If it takes any longer, I'm not on top of their lists anymore. 40% of the time spent thinking about taking the loan was used on my trust page. Remember, they have no experience with the trust page and See why it is important?
   So what do you think?

And, btw. I have received 3 · 0.0008 BTC just because of the posts in this topic. I got paid to write about this issue. Just like you got paid to post the stupid crap above.

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Gentlemen,  I do believe we all saw this coming a mile away, did we not?  I mean, he kept opening a zillion threads asking for loans withhos red-splattered account as collateral.   So we knew he was a scammer.   But thank you,  frilledshark for making the scam accusation official.  
Thank you. At least someone appreciated it.

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October 13, 2016, 09:25:10 PM
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Gentlemen,  I do believe we all saw this coming a mile away, did we not?  I mean, he kept opening a zillion threads asking for loans withhos red-splattered account as collateral.   So we knew he was a scammer.   But thank you,  frilledshark for making the scam accusation official. 

Ditto on making this Scam Accusation. 

The scammer's fake feedback, is easy to see as fake.  1-he has created so many names seeking loans, without collateral, evident by the feedback left. 2- he has no collateral, so him claiming he "sent" you anything is hogwash

Ditto, this user Atari---, and his Alt's Atari13, TaylorConrad, AmexServeSale, going nuts cuz no one is believing the bullshit. 

It started off funny.........now it's just Pathetic  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes  guess that's what drugs do to ya   

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