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November 04, 2016, 03:09:33 PM
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One last thing remains for me.

Is cannabanana a team member of Ark?

If yes, why is he being so negative of Max and the project on the LSK Ann on BTC? While you guys are putting trust in the project.

Next to that, and it has been said by others, he is acting on emotions. Big investors except a certain amount of professionalism.

You guys are getting our money and are trying to lead a serious project / business.

If he is a team member, and of great value, I would advise you guys to let him do his work, but don't let him be the one who talks on behalf of te team.

This is a personal opinion on max.  Not an organizational one.

If you know me, you'll know I'm never Sunshine and Lollipops when real shit is causing problems.

I'm not some money hungry asshole who will say anything for some dollar bills.

I don't know you. There is nothing wrong with a personal opinion. But your opinion is having a negative effect on the project. I sincerely think you cost the project a few investors already.

And again, I am just trying to help. Take it or leave it offcourse.

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November 04, 2016, 03:10:43 PM
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I appreciate your response bangomatic and vega
the only reason I ask is that depending on the amount of lisk raised, considering that Iconomi raised shy of 4 mil LSK, and given ARKs enticing LSK bonuses
if voting agreed upon, who and how would you decide to vote for? if a significant amount is raised it could completely alter the top 101 delegates
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November 04, 2016, 03:16:45 PM
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So let me get this straight :

- This ico is accepting any kinds of coins (more or less)
- Some team members act like they are 6 years old (insulting even).
- They stated (I believe) that they have no plan to dump (possibly just related to lisk), but need cash (which mean , need to dump)
- They shit on lisk, while accepting lisk.

- ony Lisk and BTC will be accepted (Altough using shapeshift is an option)
- As long as there is a reasonable amount of BTC donated Lisk doesn't need to be touched. There is slim to none chance of enough Lisk being donated to reach the minimum threshold without more than enough BTC also being put in. As time progresses the bonuses decreases and the BTC-Lisk ratio will change. A lot of people will only get in the last minute in these ICOs no matter what earily bonus is promised
- "they" do not shit on lisk. one member expressed an opinion after provoked, and not even about Lisk but mainly Max and the previous progress

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November 04, 2016, 03:19:22 PM
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One last thing remains for me.

Is cannabanana a team member of Ark?

If yes, why is he being so negative of Max and the project on the LSK Ann on BTC? While you guys are putting trust in the project.

Next to that, and it has been said by others, he is acting on emotions. Big investors except a certain amount of professionalism.

You guys are getting our money and are trying to lead a serious project / business.

If he is a team member, and of great value, I would advise you guys to let him do his work, but don't let him be the one who talks on behalf of te team.

This is a personal opinion on max.  Not an organizational one.

If you know me, you'll know I'm never Sunshine and Lollipops when real shit is causing problems.

I'm not some money hungry asshole who will say anything for some dollar bills.

I don't know you. There is nothing wrong with a personal opinion. But your opinion is having a negative effect on the project. I sincerely think you cost the project a few investors already.

And again, I am just trying to help. Take it or leave it offcourse.

Read pages 50-1000 on lisk, I was more honest than this and Lisk ended up fine.  Just hit that ignore button and read all the sweet talk from the myriad of other people here.
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November 04, 2016, 03:23:23 PM
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Who is Lisk escrow? Max or Oliver?

They don't want to make the Escrow.
And after some FUD from "The Pitbull" cannabanana, I'm not surprised.


They were never asked to be the escrow. Why would they be?
Max and especially Oliver have enough responsibilities with Lisk, escrow is for people with some free time.

So Max was free when he decided to be ICONOMI Escrow during their campaign, that point to me is not justified

it's because we are the guys who was Lisks community.  Max has been the unprofessional one.  Even during the Lisk ICO everyone from Crypti came to Congratulate max and wish him luck on his ICO.  What has he done for us beside probably FUD us.

He's not a real leader in my book.   I wouldn't be talking shit right now if he had been a better person and stopped lying to everyone like we are too dumb to know what was fucking going on.
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November 04, 2016, 03:23:53 PM
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We have prepared an interesting blog post explaining possibilities with SmartBridge technology. Click here : Smartbridge Technology



Plan ahead with your withdrawals of LISK from exchanges!

Since a lot of you will participate in ARK-TEC with LISK on the first day to get that special bonus we strongly suggest you start withdrawing your LISKs' intended for ARK-TEC to your personal wallets if you have them on exchanges (Poloniex,Bittrex,YoBit, ...) as you might know some of them have daily withdrawal limits, withdrawals get disabled for some period of times or their wallet isn't synched and getting that withdrawals sorted out last minute could cost you your first day bonus.
very important indeed

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November 04, 2016, 03:28:55 PM
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I appreciate your response bangomatic and vega
the only reason I ask is that depending on the amount of lisk raised, considering that Iconomi raised shy of 4 mil LSK, and given ARKs enticing LSK bonuses
if voting agreed upon, who and how would you decide to vote for? if a significant amount is raised it could completely alter the top 101 delegates

I really don't wish to get into the intricacies of the politics that is DPoS. Because it's a political consensus mechanism no question about it.

I can't really make an official statement about it as there isn't one yet, but I can tell you what won't happen as long as I have anything to say about it (and most or maybe all of the ARK team agrees from what I seen so far): The gathered Lisk won't be used to rock the boat (light pun intended).

ARK has zero intention to take over the Lisk delegate system. Meaning even if we vote you won't see a bunch of new delegates popping up, forge and take off with the forged Lisk. We, as any good Lisk supporter would want those delegates to forge who showed dedication, dependable, spent time and money on Lisk nodes and providing other contributions to Lisk and it's community and willing to support future development.

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November 04, 2016, 03:45:57 PM
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One last thing remains for me.

Is cannabanana a team member of Ark?

If yes, why is he being so negative of Max and the project on the LSK Ann on BTC? While you guys are putting trust in the project.

Next to that, and it has been said by others, he is acting on emotions. Big investors except a certain amount of professionalism.

You guys are getting our money and are trying to lead a serious project / business.

If he is a team member, and of great value, I would advise you guys to let him do his work, but don't let him be the one who talks on behalf of te team.

This is a personal opinion on max.  Not an organizational one.

If you know me, you'll know I'm never Sunshine and Lollipops when real shit is causing problems.

I'm not some money hungry asshole who will say anything for some dollar bills.

I don't know you. There is nothing wrong with a personal opinion. But your opinion is having a negative effect on the project. I sincerely think you cost the project a few investors already.

And again, I am just trying to help. Take it or leave it offcourse.

Read pages 50-1000 on lisk, I was more honest than this and Lisk ended up fine.  Just hit that ignore button and read all the sweet talk from the myriad of other people here.

I am just trying to understand.

Can someone else of team Ark answer my questions?

Is cannabanana a team member of Ark?

If yes, why is he being so negative of Max and the project on the LSK Ann on BTC? While you guys are putting trust in the project. Cannabanana already explained his negativity. So don't need that answer anymore.

However I do need to understand why it is that the team of Ark is divided in negativity and trust into LSK. One team one mission?

What is the end goal of trusting LSK by getting the possibility of lots of coins? If clearly some of you guys don't expect LSK to become great this way. Is it in someway possible with a lot of LSK coins you can get more control over the project, and swing it your ways?

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November 04, 2016, 03:46:33 PM
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Supporting ARK and have joined the campaign.  This i think won't be competing Lisk though as Ark aims for consumer adoption. But may even help Lisk

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November 04, 2016, 03:47:07 PM
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Finally a real coin, with some interesting features... i'm glad that I have this signature on Smiley
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November 04, 2016, 04:21:19 PM
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I am just trying to understand.

Can someone else of team Ark answer my questions?

Is cannabanana a team member of Ark?

If yes, why is he being so negative of Max and the project on the LSK Ann on BTC? While you guys are putting trust in the project. Cannabanana already explained his negativity. So don't need that answer anymore.

However I do need to understand why it is that the team of Ark is divided in negativity and trust into LSK. One team one mission?

What is the end goal of trusting LSK by getting the possibility of lots of coins? If clearly some of you guys don't expect LSK to become great this way. Is it in someway possible with a lot of LSK coins you can get more control over the project, and swing it your ways?


Yes, cannabanana is a member of ARK. He is an important member with many contributions but not the head of development or a decision maker. We doesn't work that way, instead we take great pains to hear out ever members point of view and arrive to the best possible decision on everything regarding ARK. This is not a one man show, we talk about everything. A lot. (I mean a lot, we had to pay for slack because the free 10k limit only gave us less than 5 days of history Smiley ).

I think you should simply ignore cannabanana if you don't like him. Anyone who frequented the Lisk thread or Lisk chat in the past knows that cannabanana will say whatever the hell he wants, he is...passionate.

Even our core group is 27 strong, you can probably double that to include everyone. In such a large group opinions on some things vary and there are always outliers. cannabanana is frustrated with Lisks progress and Max others less so or just don't want to spend time on posting about it, while others don't care either way and focusing on other things. It's a wide spectrum of personal opinions, but it has little effect on the ARK project and it's directions so we don't regulate it.

We accept Lisk because we think it's a good long term investment. We do it because it benefits us, benefits the Lisk community that we are still all very much part of. That makes is a bit of an emotional decision I guess but not that much. It wouldn't stand without us thinging it a good strategy.
Having Lisk won't give us power over Lisk development and we are not trying to gain any. We are focusing on figuring out what's best for ARK, and thats about it.

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November 04, 2016, 04:22:33 PM
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Is there a testnet with delegates forging?

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November 04, 2016, 04:23:59 PM
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Is there a testnet with delegates forging?
There is only a private testnet at this moment, I think public testnet will launch in a few weeks.

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November 04, 2016, 04:26:31 PM
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Is there a testnet with delegates forging?
There is only a private testnet at this moment, I think public testnet will launch in a few weeks.

Good news, will it release as long as ico ends? Or it will be later than ico ends?
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November 04, 2016, 04:29:58 PM
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I am just trying to understand.

Can someone else of team Ark answer my questions?

Is cannabanana a team member of Ark?

If yes, why is he being so negative of Max and the project on the LSK Ann on BTC? While you guys are putting trust in the project. Cannabanana already explained his negativity. So don't need that answer anymore.

However I do need to understand why it is that the team of Ark is divided in negativity and trust into LSK. One team one mission?

What is the end goal of trusting LSK by getting the possibility of lots of coins? If clearly some of you guys don't expect LSK to become great this way. Is it in someway possible with a lot of LSK coins you can get more control over the project, and swing it your ways?


Yes, cannabanana is a member of ARK. He is an important member with many contributions but not the head of development or a decision maker. We doesn't work that way, instead we take great pains to hear out ever members point of view and arrive to the best possible decision on everything regarding ARK. This is not a one man show, we talk about everything. A lot. (I mean a lot, we had to pay for slack because the free 10k limit only gave us less than 5 days of history Smiley ).

I think you should simply ignore cannabanana if you don't like him. Anyone who frequented the Lisk thread or Lisk chat in the past knows that cannabanana will say whatever the hell he wants, he is...passionate.

Even our core group is 27 strong, you can probably double that to include everyone. In such a large group opinions on some things vary and there are always outliers. cannabanana is frustrated with Lisks progress and Max others less so or just don't want to spend time on posting about it, while others don't care either way and focusing on other things. It's a wide spectrum of personal opinions, but it has little effect on the ARK project and it's directions so we don't regulate it.

We accept Lisk because we think it's a good long term investment. We do it because it benefits us, benefits the Lisk community that we are still all very much part of. That makes is a bit of an emotional decision I guess but not that much. It wouldn't stand without us thinging it a good strategy.
Having Lisk won't give us power over Lisk development and we are not trying to gain any. We are focusing on figuring out what's best for ARK, and thats about it.


Vega,

Thank you for this explanation, this helps a lot. Much appreciated.

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November 04, 2016, 04:30:54 PM
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Is there a testnet with delegates forging?
There is only a private testnet at this moment, I think public testnet will launch in a few weeks.

Good news, will it release as long as ico ends? Or it will be later than ico ends?

Testnet will be released in the course of TEC so you'll have time to test, adapt and feel it out - thanks for your interest!

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November 04, 2016, 04:36:03 PM
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Is there a testnet with delegates forging?
There is only a private testnet at this moment, I think public testnet will launch in a few weeks.

Good news, will it release as long as ico ends? Or it will be later than ico ends?

Testnet will be released in the course of TEC so you'll have time to test, adapt and feel it out - thanks for your interest!
I'm very interested in this. My only concern is that Lisk (and Rise) codebase in its current state is quite vulnerable and both projects have yet to allow delegates to forge without causing forks. I believe I just read that they will be rewriting their code from scratch which is quite an undertaking and I think some are skeptical. With Ark being a Lisk code base, are you prepared to rewrite the code to become more stable?

Thanks. I think 120% bonus for Lisk investors is huge. I like it. 

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November 04, 2016, 04:48:30 PM
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I'm very interested in this. My only concern is that Lisk (and Rise) codebase in its current state is quite vulnerable and both projects have yet to allow delegates to forge without causing forks. I believe I just read that they will be rewriting their code from scratch which is quite an undertaking and I think some are skeptical. With Ark being a Lisk code base, are you prepared to rewrite the code to become more stable?

Thanks. I think 120% bonus for Lisk investors is huge. I like it. 

Please keep in mind that I'm not a developer, but as long as I'm around I take a stab at this too-

While Rise wants a rewrite Shift and Asch managed to make the Lisk codebase work for forging or at least found some temporary solutions. fixcrypt, our main developer also has several ideas, some he came up with while he was working for Lisk, and I know he also had a talk with asch main dev, and probably others about various issues and possible solutions not just about the forking problem but others as well.

I'm not sure how much of these ideas will be implemented into the initial testnet code, as fix had been busy with various other stuff, but he has some well defined ideas and development plans. I think you all will hear about them later.
I think 51 delegates should also initially help with the forking issue until better ways are found, but please don't quote me on that one. Smiley

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November 04, 2016, 04:57:08 PM
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I'm very interested in this. My only concern is that Lisk (and Rise) codebase in its current state is quite vulnerable and both projects have yet to allow delegates to forge without causing forks. I believe I just read that they will be rewriting their code from scratch which is quite an undertaking and I think some are skeptical. With Ark being a Lisk code base, are you prepared to rewrite the code to become more stable?

Thanks. I think 120% bonus for Lisk investors is huge. I like it. 

Please keep in mind that I'm not a developer, but as long as I'm around I take a stab at this too-

While Rise wants a rewrite Shift and Asch managed to make the Lisk codebase work for forging or at least found some temporary solutions. fixcrypt, our main developer also has several ideas, some he came up with while he was working for Lisk, and I know he also had a talk with asch main dev, and probably others about various issues and possible solutions not just about the forking problem but others as well.

I'm not sure how much of these ideas will be implemented into the initial testnet code, as fix had been busy with various other stuff, but he has some well defined ideas and development plans. I think you all will hear about them later.
I think 51 delegates should also initially help with the forking issue until better ways are found, but please don't quote me on that one. Smiley
Thanks for the clarification. I'll be watching. Probably buy some on day 1. Good luck guys!

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November 04, 2016, 06:53:13 PM
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yes support Lisk is a good idea and that it was too hard so I ascends the project will enjoy watching its development
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