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There is price difference in every exchanger depending upon lots of things and one of it is the currency based on which bitcoin is being traded there as well as the payment method each trading platfrom have. So even if you find somewhere bitcoin cheaper you may get same amount of bitcoin due to deposit/withdraw fee that you will get from buying from other trading platform where price is quite higher. So basically there is no any good margin between buying bitcoin from exchanger with cheaper trading price.
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October 20, 2016, 05:40:07 PM Last edit: October 20, 2016, 06:15:58 PM by franky1 |
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Franky, I think he is referring to different currencies, not a single currency. In the USA a dollar is a dollar.. no matter where you spend it,
you will get the same amount of Bitcoin for it, no matter where you are. { If you are in California or Idaho, and you buy at exactly the
same exchange, you would get the same amount of bitcoins. } He wants to buy Bitcoin with the cheapest currency. Try the Zimbabwian
dollar. { Just joking... you will still get the same amount, no matter what currency you use. }
i know what he was suggesting. but i was adding the real outside the box VALUE EG if i shouted right now rupee is 1% cheaper.. by the time the OP reads it. its gone. before the OP even got to convert dollar to rupee to then buy btc, speculation and arbitration has changed the value. now rupee is not cheaper i mention this. because say you had $600(already earned).. it doesnt matter if you converted it to any currency in the world to then buy btc. because the small fiat<->fiat exchange rates do not offset the 'fee' to swap dollars to another fiat before even buying bitcoin. arbitrage is speculative and only gets you small percentages if timed right.. because arbitrage/demand/supply equalizes the fiat <-> fiat +-1% and there is never a real stable currency to choose and stick with. but say you are thinking about earning $600 a fortnight to later convert to btc you want to actually move to a place that can get you "cheap" bitcoin. someone from cuba, UK, Idaho would be better off moving to california and they will see they have to work less to then get bitcoin. now say you are willing to put 80 hours of sweat a fortnight into getting btc. in cuba your 80 hours will get you 0.00666667btc in california you will get 1.3btc so based on the big picture. of ongoing bitcoin purchasing.. you will earn more btc moving to california.. or even, montana to earn fiat and buy bitcoin for the rest of your life.
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October 21, 2016, 07:46:20 AM |
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Is it actually possible that bitcoins are actually cheaper (not by small margin) when bought in certain currencies or will the price for BTC across currencies self adjust throug exhange rate market force.
No I Don't think that Bitcoin is Cheap in Any Country . According to me It has Same Value in all Currency No Currency will Change its Price So I Don't think that Bitcoin Price Can Be Changed By Exchanging it to Some Other Currency....
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October 21, 2016, 01:00:05 PM |
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Is it actually possible that bitcoins are actually cheaper (not by small margin) when bought in certain currencies or will the price for BTC across currencies self adjust throug exhange rate market force.
Yes it's possible , if you use many exchange you can see the difference of the price some is lowest and some is highest but its almost the same only small amount difference in any exchange.
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October 21, 2016, 01:33:50 PM |
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They have almost the same price in every currency they only addapt to that currency like in euros you have: 1 BTC = 570,0€ (620$) and in USD: 1 BTC = 633,2$ (582€) and if you convert the prices they are almost the same the only thing is that in some currencies or countries you have taxes and that's the difference in price. Unfortunately.
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October 21, 2016, 01:48:00 PM |
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They are the same no matter what currency is that and maybe its possibe that price could be higher in the current price if you wanted to buy in a local exchange site(of course using your own local currency)but lower than the current price when your going to sell.
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October 21, 2016, 02:01:06 PM |
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They have almost the same price in every currency they only addapt to that currency like in euros you have: 1 BTC = 570,0€ (620$) and in USD: 1 BTC = 633,2$ (582€) and if you convert the prices they are almost the same the only thing is that in some currencies or countries you have taxes and that's the difference in price. Unfortunately. Interesting I had no idea the value changed from Euro to USD.
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October 21, 2016, 02:48:24 PM |
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They are the same no matter what currency is that and maybe its possibe that price could be higher in the current price if you wanted to buy in a local exchange site(of course using your own local currency)but lower than the current price when your going to sell.
so true . it depends on the price of an exchanger. we find it difficult to get the lowest price. because almost all exchange has a price that is not far adrift. for me is getting exchange of reliable and safe. it is the most important thing.
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October 21, 2016, 03:00:32 PM |
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They are the same no matter what currency is that and maybe its possibe that price could be higher in the current price if you wanted to buy in a local exchange site(of course using your own local currency)but lower than the current price when your going to sell.
so true . it depends on the price of an exchanger. we find it difficult to get the lowest price. because almost all exchange has a price that is not far adrift. for me is getting exchange of reliable and safe. it is the most important thing. No it depends also in law of supply and demand. For example every halving of bitcoin there is a certain matter that the bitcoin will rise the value and it is definitely double the previous value so it is a law of supply and certainly the currency of your country will definitely low in the value bitcoin therefore it is a law of demand.
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October 21, 2016, 03:02:24 PM |
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They are the same no matter what currency is that and maybe its possibe that price could be higher in the current price if you wanted to buy in a local exchange site(of course using your own local currency)but lower than the current price when your going to sell.
that's right its always depend from what currency are we using and which currency we wanted to exchange our btc, i think usd is the main basis of its current price but going to our local exchanges we will need to stay on their current price as well.
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October 21, 2016, 03:24:50 PM |
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They have almost the same price in every currency they only addapt to that currency like in euros you have: 1 BTC = 570,0€ (620$) and in USD: 1 BTC = 633,2$ (582€) and if you convert the prices they are almost the same the only thing is that in some currencies or countries you have taxes and that's the difference in price. Unfortunately. Even in this calculation there is some price difference however there will be currency exchange fee between converting one currency to another so this small difference will not make bitcoin cheaper anyway.
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October 21, 2016, 05:30:39 PM |
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They are the same no matter what currency is that and maybe its possibe that price could be higher in the current price if you wanted to buy in a local exchange site(of course using your own local currency)but lower than the current price when your going to sell.
so true . it depends on the price of an exchanger. we find it difficult to get the lowest price. because almost all exchange has a price that is not far adrift. for me is getting exchange of reliable and safe. it is the most important thing. The ex-changer is very important for the price no doubts about that, I think that its very important if I have to be honest. The price is almost on every currency the same so that does not make sense at all ..
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October 21, 2016, 06:24:51 PM |
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Well, like others, I think the price of bitcoin varies depending on the exchange site. But the difference isn't really that big. It's not about the currency its in.
But,prices at local exchanges may be higher/more expensive. Like for my local exchange. Let's say at coinbase Sell 1 bitcoin = $630, but for my local exchange when converted to my currency it'll be Sell 1 bitcoin = $615 - $620. The currency conversion/exchange (fee/charge?) really takes out a lot. So in this case, when selling bitcoin, the value actually goes down. As for buying, it's more expensive.
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October 22, 2016, 01:57:46 AM |
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the only way to truly measure it. is in comparison to minimum wage and also price of buying groceries.
EG california minimum wage is $10 so for 60 hours of labour ($600) you can get ~1btc Idaho minimum wage is $7.25, so for 82 hours of labour ($600) you can get ~1btc
trying to think about only the $$ as is is futile. because in most cases buying with uk pound us based on the exchange rate via dollars.
but if you think of it from minimum wage (£7.20) UK minimum wage is £7.20, so for 67 hours of labour ($489.52=$600) you can get ~1btc which out of the 3 examples make it "cheaper" to buy bitcoin in california, then UK, then idaho
ill let you do the maths for REAL VALUE. for all area's.. and not the fiat value based on fiat exchange its also worth adding in the 'cost of living' metric to get a more defined real "cheap" list of places to live to get bitcoin
EG fiat: california min wage= $10, loaf of bread $2 idaho min wage= $7.25, loaf of bread $1.50
now imagine they asked each other for one hours labour. Idaho gets $10 from cali' and can then buy 6.66 loaves.. = happy cali' gets $7.25 from idaho and can only buy 3.625 loaves = not happy
btc: california min wage= 0.01666666btc, loaf of bread 0.003btc idaho min wage= 0.01208333btc, loaf of bread 0.0025btc
now imagine they asked each other for one hours labour. Idaho gets 0.01666666btc from cali' and can then buy 6.66 loaves.. = happy cali' gets 0.01208333btc from idaho and can only buy 3.625 loaves = not happy
Sorry frank, I don't agreed with your logic... For example if this guys earn 1 bitcoin each other in gambling or something.... so Idaho = not happy and Cali = happy Bitcoin have the same value, nothing with minimum wage... Just have difference between exchanges and it's very low because people do arbritage...
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October 22, 2016, 02:45:13 AM |
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Is it actually possible that bitcoins are actually cheaper (not by small margin) when bought in certain currencies or will the price for BTC across currencies self adjust throug exhange rate market force.
If you are thinking of arbitrage opportunities then I suggest you take a look at Localbitcoin's prices. Sometimes you could get cheap Bitcoins over there and sometimes you could sell at a premium. This is mainly because of the low volume of some trades created there but if you are patient and motivated you could make a decent profit. Notice the regulars there who have made over 1000 trades still active thru all these years. They must be making some money.
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October 22, 2016, 02:57:07 AM |
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the only way to truly measure it. is in comparison to minimum wage and also price of buying groceries.
EG california minimum wage is $10 so for 60 hours of labour ($600) you can get ~1btc Idaho minimum wage is $7.25, so for 82 hours of labour ($600) you can get ~1btc
trying to think about only the $$ as is is futile. because in most cases buying with uk pound us based on the exchange rate via dollars.
but if you think of it from minimum wage (£7.20) UK minimum wage is £7.20, so for 67 hours of labour ($489.52=$600) you can get ~1btc which out of the 3 examples make it "cheaper" to buy bitcoin in california, then UK, then idaho
ill let you do the maths for REAL VALUE. for all area's.. and not the fiat value based on fiat exchange its also worth adding in the 'cost of living' metric to get a more defined real "cheap" list of places to live to get bitcoin
EG fiat: california min wage= $10, loaf of bread $2 idaho min wage= $7.25, loaf of bread $1.50
now imagine they asked each other for one hours labour. Idaho gets $10 from cali' and can then buy 6.66 loaves.. = happy cali' gets $7.25 from idaho and can only buy 3.625 loaves = not happy
btc: california min wage= 0.01666666btc, loaf of bread 0.003btc idaho min wage= 0.01208333btc, loaf of bread 0.0025btc
now imagine they asked each other for one hours labour. Idaho gets 0.01666666btc from cali' and can then buy 6.66 loaves.. = happy cali' gets 0.01208333btc from idaho and can only buy 3.625 loaves = not happy
Franky, I think he is referring to different currencies, not a single currency. In the USA a dollar is a dollar.. no matter where you spend it, you will get the same amount of Bitcoin for it, no matter where you are. { If you are in California or Idaho, and you buy at exactly the same exchange, you would get the same amount of bitcoins. } He wants to buy Bitcoin with the cheapest currency. Try the Zimbabwian dollar. { Just joking... you will still get the same amount, no matter what currency you use. } I just got this point, actually like the example if he are wanna for buying 1 btc for his pouch and asking about 579 euro for 1 btc and comparing the price buying in the another currency like USD and will got $630 for a btc. and if we are wanna for comparing what is more cheap between buying in the USD or EURO and the result are totally there is no gap of the price between buying in USD or EURO, and using the currency calculator EUR579 = USD630 = 1 BTC, and that's just not applied for both of the fiat currency but for all kind of the fiat currency.
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October 22, 2016, 07:49:28 PM |
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They have almost the same price in every currency they only addapt to that currency like in euros you have: 1 BTC = 570,0€ (620$) and in USD: 1 BTC = 633,2$ (582€) and if you convert the prices they are almost the same the only thing is that in some currencies or countries you have taxes and that's the difference in price. Unfortunately. You are making a point there, but I still think that there are somehow significance price difference in some instances. Believe me that is the advantages some people use to make huge profit in trading the currency. That little price difference matters alot to some traders.
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October 22, 2016, 08:21:19 PM |
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In any currency, the price of Bitcoin would be the same. I don't see any currency which you can use to buy Bitcoin in a much cheaper price. If there's one that exists, people should have always used it in the beginning. There would be some small difference when you convert a certain fiat currency into another but it's not enough to make some actual profit.
I don't think so, the bitcoin price besides in USD is different in other currencies because the exchange rate between USD/CHF or USD/EUR is applied. So if 1 BTC costs 650 USD doesn't mean that the same rate will be in other currencies because it is depending of the stock market in fiat. To the OP, since the bitcoin value is estimated in USD then in USD is the cheapest price comparing with other currencies.
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October 22, 2016, 08:27:00 PM |
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It fluctuates all the time actually. Sometimes yen, sometimes yuan, sometimes USD. It eventually evens out though because that's when people take advantage of arbitrage.
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October 22, 2016, 08:27:14 PM |
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The only differences bitcoin prices does have its at some exchanges where the difference can reach around 20- 50 dollars, but the thing is the price are a bit different if you have some capital you can play with those game.
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