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October 21, 2016, 05:50:42 AM
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get rid of cash.

Once governments finish their ban-on-cash global plan, and there's no escape from pinpoint governmental control, we better hope we have a strong, solid, decentralized-node Bitcoin, with nodes wide spread all across the globe, or else it will be the end of financial freedom for ever. Bitcoin is our last hope.

By then, people will start to realize the importance of owning Bitcoin and knowing how to use it. The price of Bitcoin will sky rocket to several thousands to millions of dollars per coin, as bast amounts of wealth move within the ecosystem.
yes , it is more important things .
since everyone can realiase that its importance . but when the mining of bitcoin after two year will became stop then the pri will touch the sky and then increased price will show how the bitcoin is important things . well some countries government allows bitcoin officially so it is a best thing alredy .


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October 21, 2016, 06:02:24 AM
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I can't tell if you're trolling. But let me get this straight, so you're basically saying, governments will stand aside and watch while people siphon off the system's lifeblood into this new 'people's' system which happens to be an offshoot of the current system, using infrastructure/facilities built, owned and controlled by current system? And then people will be free of the tyranny of governments, make millions of dollars and live happily ever after? Seems legit  Smiley Did I miss anything?
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October 21, 2016, 06:08:49 AM
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get rid of cash.

Once governments finish their ban-on-cash global plan, and there's no escape from pinpoint governmental control, we better hope we have a strong, solid, decentralized-node Bitcoin, with nodes wide spread all across the globe, or else it will be the end of financial freedom for ever. Bitcoin is our last hope.

By then, people will start to realize the importance of owning Bitcoin and knowing how to use it. The price of Bitcoin will sky rocket to several thousands to millions of dollars per coin, as bast amounts of wealth move within the ecosystem.
yeah , and if the governments of the countries will apply some restrictions at the bitcoin transaction or use then we fill the most and best about the bitcoin because now in the present time it is easy to use Bitcoin without going against any one ot our government rule . so its importance is less but in future we will got the quality of its features int he future .


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October 21, 2016, 09:40:26 AM
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I'm very sceptical that governments could abolish all cash entirely, there would be too many problems with that.
Especially for older people and people that don't have any income.


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October 21, 2016, 01:44:06 PM
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Cashless implies total control. That being the case they could cut access to every bitcoin exchange, buying service and private trader with a few clicks.

Bitcoin would prove why cash is needed. It would also be a prime victim until the fiat out is unnecessary and I'm not sure it ever will be.

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October 21, 2016, 01:48:43 PM
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Actually no any government can make world totally cashless as there will be always constant demand of pay via paper cash around the world specially by the one who don't have enough knowledge regarding new payment systems and in the places where literacy rate is really low like in underdeveloped as well as developing countries.

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October 21, 2016, 07:37:07 PM
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I can't tell if you're trolling. But let me get this straight, so you're basically saying, governments will stand aside and watch while people siphon off the system's lifeblood into this new 'people's' system which happens to be an offshoot of the current system, using infrastructure/facilities built, owned and controlled by current system? And then people will be free of the tyranny of governments, make millions of dollars and live happily ever after? Seems legit  Smiley Did I miss anything?
Sure government will not fold it arms and watch that happen but what we want the government's understanding and legazing the use of bitcoin so that even the government itself can benefit while the people's privacy is respected to some extent.



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October 21, 2016, 10:48:54 PM
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Read a article in the NewYorker about transitioning from paper to digital and it was pointing to Sweden,Denmark and Norway getting very close to achieving this. It took me back how easy it was for them to start implementing the plan. Started by eliminating small currency bills,making transit take cards and limited cash,bars going cashless and it just trickled into all aspects.
After reading how they did this I started to notice the same thing has been unfolding here in my neck of the woods with eliminating the penny! Cheesy
Maybe a bit slower but I read they want to take away a few other coins as well and our transit has become very cash unfriendly with these stupid cards we have to register.
Other interesting things from the article where how much money is under mattresses in higher denominations like $100 USD. They gave a percentage of how few are actually in circulation. Also made me think how much easier it would be to drop negative rates on us if we had gone all digital. Almost like they let the cat out of the hat a little to early and hope we do not connect the dots.

Here is a link to the story:(Honestly only read about half before I was uprooted,will read the rest tomorrow)
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/10/10/imagining-a-cashless-world


I honestly am getting a little worried realizing I am not prepared for government to strangle me financially and need to smarten up and get to work.
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October 21, 2016, 11:01:46 PM
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Governments thrive on fiat and make billions of money through their current old fashion fiat sytem. Not only that, they also rule everything around their economy with iron fist. List me one reason why the government will ever get rid of fiat/cash? It's not in their benefit. I personally feel the importance of Bitcoin since financial freedom is the exact reason as to why I am in Bitcoin.

I am tired of the annoyances from governments and banks regarding the money that I have, my house, etc. My parents for example (I am in the end of my 20's), they have worked their entire life to get a certain amount of savings that they use to enjoy life, pay their bills from, health insurance, and all that. They get bothered by the bank and tax agency with recommendations as to what they could use that money for. WTF?

One of their recommendations is that it would be a wise decision to pump that money into their house as in an extension, or some sort of renovation... I have explained Bitcoin to them and what it exactly does, but they are too old fashion to be bothered with tech related things.


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October 21, 2016, 11:09:00 PM
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I can not believe that cash will disappear within the next decades!
Bitcoin will have to coexist with fiat currencies.I see no problem in that and still there are more than enogh reasons why Bitcoin's value will rise.
Countries like Sweden, where almost everybody is paying with cards or the phone right now, will be one of the few excemptions for many more years.

You are right.Fiat is not going to disappear any sooner.Even if more and more countries are adopting and encoraging cashless transactions,bitcoin is highly unlikely to replace fiat


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October 21, 2016, 11:59:06 PM
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FIAT wont disappear. there will always be a currency tethered and controlled by government laws such as minimum wage, which must be paid at X.. and taxes at X.. and court fines at X. all payable in one currency controlled by the countries national bank,
this is called legal tender.
governments and national banks will not change laws to no longer have control of legal tender(fiat)

the form of how the fiat legal tender will be held/used CAN change.
but it is not over night. things like swapping the paper ingredient of a bank note to be a plastic polymer bank note (UK and canada are doing this right now). which will in time be the very reason to take (plastic) bank notes out of circulation, due to plastic being a expensive/finite/environment concern due to oil blah blah blah.(yea its that predictable why they went plastic)
afterall if they stuck with paper/cotton they cannot say a bank note is bad.

next its the case of swapping 'dollars' and 'pounds' to a hyperledger coin by "upgrading" peoples bank accounts with tempters of higher interest rates. again taking time to move people across.. so that it doesnt wake up the sheep in one go.

but hyperledger coin is still FIAT

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October 22, 2016, 02:55:18 AM
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next its the case of swapping 'dollars' and 'pounds' to a hyperledger coin by "upgrading" peoples bank accounts with tempters of higher interest rates. again taking time to move people across.. so that it doesnt wake up the sheep in one go.

but hyperledger coin is still FIAT


Then nothing has changed. Fiat money is now truly just numbers in a computer screen like it is now in the banks' databases. They just improved the database, renamed and rebranded it as something called a "distributed database" but with the validators and the nodes controlled only by them. It is nothing new. They only made their system more efficient but it does not mean it is a good system because the banking cartel still has the power.

Bitcoin is still the system to beat and may it live for more than a hundred years.


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next its the case of swapping 'dollars' and 'pounds' to a hyperledger coin by "upgrading" peoples bank accounts with tempters of higher interest rates. again taking time to move people across.. so that it doesnt wake up the sheep in one go.

but hyperledger coin is still FIAT


Then nothing has changed. Fiat money is now truly just numbers in a computer screen like it is now in the banks' databases. They just improved the database, renamed and rebranded it as something called a "distributed database" but with the validators and the nodes controlled only by them. It is nothing new. They only made their system more efficient but it does not mean it is a good system because the banking cartel still has the power.

Bitcoin is still the system to beat and may it live for more than a hundred years.
For sure bitcoin will be living for more than hundred years. As bitcoin offer so much privacy and freedom, we do not wish that it replaces the Government totally because that will be very bad to everyone.
Secondly, it is not ideal to have all transactions go cashless because if you make everything 100% cashless there will be every likelihood to make some form mistakes/errors which the paper money woud have been the best to correct that.

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October 22, 2016, 09:19:57 PM
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Banning cash wont happen before 2030, where I live about 50% of the people pay with cash and withdraw their money from ATM.

The govt made a law that businesses should pay salaries through banks, this is the first step, but even so, people still withdraw it from ATM and pay with cash, hardly anyone uses cards.

Especially the elderly, about 30% of the population is elderly. I would like to see how you get them to use bank cards. They can hardly know how to use computers.

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October 22, 2016, 10:05:10 PM
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I would like to see how you get them to use bank cards. They can hardly know how to use computers.
paper money is becoming unfashionable. i havnt touched it for years.
even bitcoin sees itself as if paper money has lost its utility.
for the elderly, to teach them how to use a card does not require computer lessons

just walk up to a retail counter and when they tell you the total, wave this plastic card over a machine (NFC card) like its a magic wand.
it saves counting your pennies and worries of accidentally handing the shop the wrong money.
even things like an elderly bus pass is simple enough. just wave it infront the person and your done

if the retailer requires a pin most pensioners already know how to use an ATM, not rocket science

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