In intelligence, where would you place yourself?

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I urge all of you to read my response. It briefly compiles years and years of meta-cognitive analysis performed subtly throughout my life.
In my brief life, I have met many highly intelligent people – men and women whom I feel are light years ahead in intellect of any scientists or chess players appearing on television and magazines these days. But, through these experiences, I have come to a well-met conclusion that high intelligence exists in very different forms, and can, furthermore, be broken down into strata. They are known as the crooked-minded, the student, and lastly, the liberated.

The crooked-minded

These types of people are generally labelled as “psychopaths” or “Machiavellians.” They are extremely good at statistical analysis (whether that be social, mathematical, or scientific). What drives them is increasing the size of their wallet. They have no regard for people other than themselves and the people close to them. They have no room for spirituality and “primitiveness.” They generally are extremely arrogant and cocky (in other words, they are assholes). They don’t worry about petty things (i.e. they do not worry about things that are of little relevance to their success). They try to manipulate other people to get things done. They generally are deceivers and great salesmen. They are greedy men who have immense levels of patience and strike like cobras when the time is ready. Wall Street and Bay Street are hubs that breed these “cockroaches.” (They are generally financial products traders, oil and gas businessmen, and insurance brokers.) The crooked minded are few in number (luckily), with only about 10% of the global populous subscribing to these beliefs. Some notorious individuals of this intelligence niche includes Richard Fuld (CEO of Lehman Brothers), Al Capone (Owner of Chicago Outfit), and Jordan Belfort (CEO of Stratton Oakmont).

It is my opinion that the crooked minded type of intelligence is at the bottom of the “higher intelligence“ strata for the reason that this mindset employs primitive survival axioms like “the survival of the fittest.” It is proven that that survival of the fittest does not occur naturally within individual species. Altruism – assistance to others – does. And that’s the next level of higher intelligence.

The student

The student is a life-long learner. (Forgive me for referring to the student as a male.) He focuses primarily on the acquisition of knowledge, whether it be political, scientific, or social. He wishes to dedicate his life to the betterment of understanding, whilst sacrificing a life of enjoyment and ease. He often marvels at the wonder of the heavens. He may demonstrate a euphoric pantheism with the universe. He may develop a craze with study (whether it be mathematics, history, or science). Often times “students” are the professors, scientists, doctors, and engineers of society. The student persona pervades society with its presence stretching wide and far. The only reason we have technology is because of the student. Out of respect, I shall name some men of honor: Arybhatta (father of trigonometry and astronomy), Isaac Newton (father of calculus integrated physics), Albert Einstein (for the General Theory of Relativity), Edward Teller and Robert Oppenheimer, (fathers of the atomic bomb), and Ben Rich (Head of Lockheed Martin Skunkworks and key developer of the world’s first invisible stealth craft, the F1-17 Nighthawk).

It is clear that the students of society are of paramount importance in society. Without them, so would society not be as primitive … as …. the medieval times (when, surprisingly, men took baths once a year)? My point is that we have been liberated by technology, made possible by the selfless students of society. It is, however, of even greater importance to question what, or, more importantly, who, started this revolution. Since when did humanity have the urge to become “thinkers?” That urge starts with the ancient philosophers of Asia, and, of recent, Europe: the liberated.
 
The liberated

These are the men who have been liberated from the Maya (illusion) of the materialistic world. He has complete mastery over emotion, thought, and perception. “He neither rejoices upon achieving something pleasant nor laments upon obtaining something unpleasant. Out of utmost humility, he sees with equal vision a learned and gentle man, a cow, an elephant,a dog, and a dog-eater”(Bhagavad Gita). He sees the universal essence pervading every single thing. He is in constant euphoria. He is in total disconnection with regular, societal people. His main philosophy is as follows: disengage in hedonism and seek self-realization. (That is, realizing that chasing a life full of sensual pleasure will give the impetus for nothing but disappointment to arise.)

If one were to believe in a God, the liberated men would fit the description. Few have existed, and even less today. Without a doubt, they are situated far from society (most likely in Tibet, Nepal, and regions near the Himalayan mountains). Some men of godly recognition include Ramanuja, Aristotle, Confucius, Gautama Siddhartha, and Rumi. In modern times, two profound men have emphasized self-realization: AC Bhaktivedanta, and Jaggi Vasudeva, just to name a few.
This is the lamina of the strata – liberation. It is very much perfection,  representing a very advanced evolution of the human mind. I would say 0.00oo01% of the population can fall under this label, and that’s not surprising. Our society does not promote this kind of mindset. However, it is liberating to understand that there is very much a pyramidal hierarchy containing the types of intelligence (as there is in the natural world). I say this because there is absolutely no suffering with this mindset. What is there to be sad about if one realises that outlook on life is nothing but a product of the feeble mind – a mind that was, over thousands and thousands of years of evolution, programmed to act by and largely on fear?

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In my case I want to be in the side of the student because I am too small cant competent in crook minded person maybe I am half crook minded because I like reading books and articles. Knowledge is free in the internet. I want to be the liberated but not totally because I am a socialist person and an open minded person. This has its own weaknesses and strength. The student in the end will be I choose because I dont want to open book my life in someone else except my partner in life and my children.

[laurynasc111]

I'm the student

[lottery248]

student as i am still of that. lol.
so why don’t you make a vote to make what you need in data easier?

[Sundark]

It is not enough types of personality-intelligence to choose from. I know, I am not a psychopath, but I am not a liberated mind either.
So Student is the closed depiction of my state of mind I assume.

[catch.me.if.you.can]

Im genius.

[Foxpup]

OP, what have you got against psychopaths, anyway?

[Dagol]

I'm a student. The more you know the more things you don't know. That's why we wills always need to learn new things.

[Sundark]

OP, what have you got against psychopaths, anyway?

They are assholes without compassion. That is my main problem with them. They lack something that we can call human nature.

[BADecker]

Considering how ridiculous some intelligent people are - Big Bang Theory, Black Hole Theory, The Theory of Evolution, The Theory of Relativity - I think I would place myself outside of it (intelligence).

[Foxpup]

They are assholes without compassion.

What are you talking about? We can be perfectly compassionate when it serves our interests. As opposed to actual assholes, who are uncompassionate all the time. They don't tend to get very far in life.

They lack something that we can call human nature.

Human nature is overrated.

Considering how ridiculous some intelligent people are - Big Bang Theory, Black Hole Theory, The Theory of Evolution, The Theory of Relativity - I think I would place myself outside of it (intelligence).

Quoted for posterity.

[ronoa]

I would love to see Spoetnik and Gleb Gamow reply to this topic. 

[ekaterina77]

I urge all of you to read my response. It briefly compiles years and years of meta-cognitive analysis performed subtly throughout my life.
In my brief life, I have met many highly intelligent people – men and women whom I feel are light years ahead in intellect of any scientists or chess players appearing on television and magazines these days. But, through these experiences, I have come to a well-met conclusion that high intelligence exists in very different forms, and can, furthermore, be broken down into strata. They are known as the crooked-minded, the student, and lastly, the liberated.

The crooked-minded

These types of people are generally labelled as “psychopaths” or “Machiavellians.” They are extremely good at statistical analysis (whether that be social, mathematical, or scientific). What drives them is increasing the size of their wallet. They have no regard for people other than themselves and the people close to them. They have no room for spirituality and “primitiveness.” They generally are extremely arrogant and cocky (in other words, they are assholes). They don’t worry about petty things (i.e. they do not worry about things that are of little relevance to their success). They try to manipulate other people to get things done. They generally are deceivers and great salesmen. They are greedy men who have immense levels of patience and strike like cobras when the time is ready. Wall Street and Bay Street are hubs that breed these “cockroaches.” (They are generally financial products traders, oil and gas businessmen, and insurance brokers.) The crooked minded are few in number (luckily), with only about 10% of the global populous subscribing to these beliefs. Some notorious individuals of this intelligence niche includes Richard Fuld (CEO of Lehman Brothers), Al Capone (Owner of Chicago Outfit), and Jordan Belfort (CEO of Stratton Oakmont).

It is my opinion that the crooked minded type of intelligence is at the bottom of the “higher intelligence“ strata for the reason that this mindset employs primitive survival axioms like “the survival of the fittest.” It is proven that that survival of the fittest does not occur naturally within individual species. Altruism – assistance to others – does. And that’s the next level of higher intelligence.

The student

The student is a life-long learner. (Forgive me for referring to the student as a male.) He focuses primarily on the acquisition of knowledge, whether it be political, scientific, or social. He wishes to dedicate his life to the betterment of understanding, whilst sacrificing a life of enjoyment and ease. He often marvels at the wonder of the heavens. He may demonstrate a euphoric pantheism with the universe. He may develop a craze with study (whether it be mathematics, history, or science). Often times “students” are the professors, scientists, doctors, and engineers of society. The student persona pervades society with its presence stretching wide and far. The only reason we have technology is because of the student. Out of respect, I shall name some men of honor: Arybhatta (father of trigonometry and astronomy), Isaac Newton (father of calculus integrated physics), Albert Einstein (for the General Theory of Relativity), Edward Teller and Robert Oppenheimer, (fathers of the atomic bomb), and Ben Rich (Head of Lockheed Martin Skunkworks and key developer of the world’s first invisible stealth craft, the F1-17 Nighthawk).

It is clear that the students of society are of paramount importance in society. Without them, so would society not be as primitive … as …. the medieval times (when, surprisingly, men took baths once a year)? My point is that we have been liberated by technology, made possible by the selfless students of society. It is, however, of even greater importance to question what, or, more importantly, who, started this revolution. Since when did humanity have the urge to become “thinkers?” That urge starts with the ancient philosophers of Asia, and, of recent, Europe: the liberated.
 
The liberated

These are the men who have been liberated from the Maya (illusion) of the materialistic world. He has complete mastery over emotion, thought, and perception. “He neither rejoices upon achieving something pleasant nor laments upon obtaining something unpleasant. Out of utmost humility, he sees with equal vision a learned and gentle man, a cow, an elephant,a dog, and a dog-eater”(Bhagavad Gita). He sees the universal essence pervading every single thing. He is in constant euphoria. He is in total disconnection with regular, societal people. His main philosophy is as follows: disengage in hedonism and seek self-realization. (That is, realizing that chasing a life full of sensual pleasure will give the impetus for nothing but disappointment to arise.)

If one were to believe in a God, the liberated men would fit the description. Few have existed, and even less today. Without a doubt, they are situated far from society (most likely in Tibet, Nepal, and regions near the Himalayan mountains). Some men of godly recognition include Ramanuja, Aristotle, Confucius, Gautama Siddhartha, and Rumi. In modern times, two profound men have emphasized self-realization: AC Bhaktivedanta, and Jaggi Vasudeva, just to name a few.
This is the lamina of the strata – liberation. It is very much perfection,  representing a very advanced evolution of the human mind. I would say 0.00oo01% of the population can fall under this label, and that’s not surprising. Our society does not promote this kind of mindset. However, it is liberating to understand that there is very much a pyramidal hierarchy containing the types of intelligence (as there is in the natural world). I say this because there is absolutely no suffering with this mindset. 

In most of them, you're right. Of course there are some things that are difficult to accept, but because of a little bit of experience rating is not fair.

[OC19850520]

I don't necessarily have anything against psychopathy since that would be like trying to denounce the whole world. Everyone is on the psychopathy spectrum, some more so than others. I just feel it is a regression to primitivity.