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December 16, 2016, 10:54:01 AM
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If you don't see a secure lock on the top of the web browser that you are using SSL certificate. Then that is one sign that it is likely a scam website if they want you to send a payment of some sort.
I see many ponzi scammer sites using this certificate. It doesn't mean something isn't a scam if uses this lock secure.
Very easy to know if a site is scam: when they offer profit very good to be true or if they don't explain clear how their system works and how they get money to pay you back. We don't have many legit investments now, hard to trust sites on the internet to store your money and give you income.
You can quickly realize if it's ponzi or HYIP with their mechanism within a minute . Like you said , most of HYIP not explain where they can get money for your investment back. The site offers huge return within day , you can labeled them as ponzi and stay away.

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It's quite obvious. There are a lot of warning bells that should hopefully get any scam sites out of your way:

1. Admin cannot speak good English
2. Admin has a history of scamming, or spamming
3. Domain registration is only for a year or less, when they claim to be here for the long term
4. Any "HYIPs", "Doublers"
5. Anything that is too good to be true.

These might be signs, but all of them can easily be avoided. The hyip admins are becoming smarter and smarter and are always coming up with a new idea to scam people.

1. Everyone are capable of learning English. Most people can even master it.

2. The name of the admin can be easily changed. I think that hyip admins are mostly the same person but has different identity and whereabouts.

3. If they have enough money, they might as well have purchased a long term domain. Or maybe come up with some "we'll extend it later" announcement.

4. Other people don't understand that and most HYIP sites don't put these in their website. They just say that they offer this lifetime plan, etc.

5. HYIP sites have been offering 3 months ROI which is good enough to be true to most people. And even if some doublers only have 100 hours to wait for your money to get doubled, they always have a reason or an explanation on how is it happening.

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December 16, 2016, 12:54:17 PM
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If you don't see a secure lock on the top of the web browser that you are using SSL certificate. Then that is one sign that it is likely a scam website if they want you to send a payment of some sort.
I think many scam sites using SSL certificate, we still remind cloud mining scams like hashocean, cldmine and more. One signs if the sites scam is logic or not. If any sites will give more than 1% RoI, I sure 100℅ that is scam.
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December 16, 2016, 01:27:57 PM
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If you don't see a secure lock on the top of the web browser that you are using SSL certificate. Then that is one sign that it is likely a scam website if they want you to send a payment of some sort.
I see many ponzi scammer sites using this certificate. It doesn't mean something isn't a scam if uses this lock secure.
Very easy to know if a site is scam: when they offer profit very good to be true or if they don't explain clear how their system works and how they get money to pay you back. We don't have many legit investments now, hard to trust sites on the internet to store your money and give you income.
You can quickly realize if it's ponzi or HYIP with their mechanism within a minute . Like you said , most of HYIP not explain where they can get money for your investment back. The site offers huge return within day , you can labeled them as ponzi and stay away.

"" most of HYIP not explain where they can get money for your investment back""
If you need explaination it is better not to invest...you should understand from yourself.

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December 16, 2016, 02:04:46 PM
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If you need explaination it is better not to invest...you should understand from yourself.
I don't want to hear it from you , you need an explanation so you can SURE about what you are doing and why you Invest in those sites. Even they can , if you find something shady with their explanations better to stay away from this (Like your red trust).

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December 16, 2016, 08:20:32 PM
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It's quite obvious. There are a lot of warning bells that should hopefully get any scam sites out of your way:

1. Admin cannot speak good English
2. Admin has a history of scamming, or spamming
3. Domain registration is only for a year or less, when they claim to be here for the long term
4. Any "HYIPs", "Doublers"
5. Anything that is too good to be true.

These might be signs, but all of them can easily be avoided. The hyip admins are becoming smarter and smarter and are always coming up with a new idea to scam people.

1. Everyone are capable of learning English. Most people can even master it.

2. The name of the admin can be easily changed. I think that hyip admins are mostly the same person but has different identity and whereabouts.

3. If they have enough money, they might as well have purchased a long term domain. Or maybe come up with some "we'll extend it later" announcement.

4. Other people don't understand that and most HYIP sites don't put these in their website. They just say that they offer this lifetime plan, etc.

5. HYIP sites have been offering 3 months ROI which is good enough to be true to most people. And even if some doublers only have 100 hours to wait for your money to get doubled, they always have a reason or an explanation on how is it happening.
I agree the HYIP scammers are not dumb they are getting smarter every day, other things I have seen HYIP scammers do is they have scripts that allow them to create fake info of people, names directions and earnings, they buy fake testimonials, sometimes they even have video testimonials.



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December 17, 2016, 02:05:05 AM
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It's always difficult, but when I see a so called deal.
First i check if there is contact information, address, phone etc.
Then I try to find reviews
If there are reviews and positive I wait a few days and try it out with small change.
If there are reviews and negative > I forget it.
If there are no reviews > I forget it.

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December 17, 2016, 10:48:47 AM
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I know what I'm talking about and it is about to save people from being scammed by your system. Haha, you are telling me that I'm misleading people?

You are feeling regret to those possible people that can be your prey to be saved because of my warning to them and as well as those red tagged put to you?

Ohh, yes your system is unique, using unique sweet words to encourage people to donate their money to you.
(lol) never money is asked...money is only offered...and your missleading avoids people to get offered money...

What? Money is offered? How come that you are offering money to the people that needs to have deposit? You are offering your scam site to the people to ask them to invest to your system.

Don't mislead and encourage people that turning out that your a good old man that offers money, stop using sweet talks.

You cannot fool people here anymore with your scam.

Be careful about your lies because it is not only impossible to lose on my U2 system but as well impossible to deposit...
Hug...Old man has spoken (lol)

Its better to call you old man rather than grandpa, really it is impossible to deposit to your u2 system?

Then why does your trust level says this, "Running an "investment game" with the tagline "No risk...You can not lose.".
Claiming that it is not a ponzi, however unabled to explain how it works."

Because people want not understand...(lol)

Don't tell the people that it doesn't understand your system. They do, we do really understand that something while running has to be shady.

And it seems you changed your signature, you are quite pushy to get people to scam huh? Just don't use the word impossible to lose.

Then people will understand that your investment is legit, as you said. It is too good to be true.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716720.new#new


No answers anymore for you already pissed off and why not just stop on misleading the people with your scam system about that u2cloudmining.

And you are saying that deposits are impossible? How come that it is true with this:

Cashback after 3 months + profit.

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December 17, 2016, 11:01:24 AM
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I know what I'm talking about and it is about to save people from being scammed by your system. Haha, you are telling me that I'm misleading people?

You are feeling regret to those possible people that can be your prey to be saved because of my warning to them and as well as those red tagged put to you?

Ohh, yes your system is unique, using unique sweet words to encourage people to donate their money to you.
(lol) never money is asked...money is only offered...and your missleading avoids people to get offered money...

What? Money is offered? How come that you are offering money to the people that needs to have deposit? You are offering your scam site to the people to ask them to invest to your system.

Don't mislead and encourage people that turning out that your a good old man that offers money, stop using sweet talks.

You cannot fool people here anymore with your scam.

Be careful about your lies because it is not only impossible to lose on my U2 system but as well impossible to deposit...
Hug...Old man has spoken (lol)

Its better to call you old man rather than grandpa, really it is impossible to deposit to your u2 system?

Then why does your trust level says this, "Running an "investment game" with the tagline "No risk...You can not lose.".
Claiming that it is not a ponzi, however unabled to explain how it works."

Because people want not understand...(lol)

Don't tell the people that it doesn't understand your system. They do, we do really understand that something while running has to be shady.

And it seems you changed your signature, you are quite pushy to get people to scam huh? Just don't use the word impossible to lose.

Then people will understand that your investment is legit, as you said. It is too good to be true.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716720.new#new


No answers anymore for you already pissed off and why not just stop on misleading the people with your scam system about that u2cloudmining.

And you are saying that deposits are impossible? How come that it is true with this:

Cashback after 3 months + profit.


It's explained here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716720.new#new

And on my sites...
but please do not go on my sites...it makes me money (lol)

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December 18, 2016, 04:57:52 PM
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differences in sites that actually give you the advantage, and the site you want to rip can be seen clearly from the way of promotion. Well, you can see the sites HYIP, they sometimes give you an advantage of more than 100% to prospective investors, so many people are interested.

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December 18, 2016, 09:33:28 PM
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If you don't see a secure lock on the top of the web browser that you are using SSL certificate. Then that is one sign that it is likely a scam website if they want you to send a payment of some sort.
I see many ponzi scammer sites using this certificate. It doesn't mean something isn't a scam if uses this lock secure.
Very easy to know if a site is scam: when they offer profit very good to be true or if they don't explain clear how their system works and how they get money to pay you back. We don't have many legit investments now, hard to trust sites on the internet to store your money and give you income.
You can quickly realize if it's ponzi or HYIP with their mechanism within a minute . Like you said , most of HYIP not explain where they can get money for your investment back. The site offers huge return within day , you can labeled them as ponzi and stay away.
It is not so difficult to identify scam websites and ponzi schemes, because usually they use the same tactics. It is important to realize when there are irresistible goals, as that is what all these websites offer. They try to grab money from users in a hurry and in desperation for a quick buck.

Another aspect to be analyzed, is the source of income of the business, there is sustainability only if there is something being produced.
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December 19, 2016, 08:07:06 AM
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It's explained here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716720.new#new

And on my sites...
but please do not go on my sites...it makes me money (lol)

Of course I won't as someone explained what's inside of your site.
I visited his site also, I find it puking in my eyes, its full of ads.

That's the reality that the people who are visiting your site are your instrument to generate profit. So, your word that it is impossible to lose.

Is just applicable to you only.

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 #333

-snip

It's explained here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716720.new#new

And on my sites...
but please do not go on my sites...it makes me money (lol)

Of course I won't as someone explained what's inside of your site.
I visited his site also, I find it puking in my eyes, its full of ads.

That's the reality that the people who are visiting your site are your instrument to generate profit. So, your word that it is impossible to lose.

Is just applicable to you only.

My site is UNIQUE and pays so much people likes to be paid...not more not less.

I agree you have to have enough brain to manage it.
My site is not made to attract people or to have many members.
It is a game you like or you do not.

When people will seen that my U2 system is often better paying that most of faucetsnthey will claim from my site.
And if they prefer earning less otherwhere it does not matter.

Buy all adspaces and let them empty...so my members will earn same and will not be agressed by advertising.
But...believe me internet without advertising would be so boring...

I see that your only argument is suspicion and what other people feel from my site:
An unpleased site does not mean I'm a scammer.

Have a nice day.



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December 19, 2016, 09:02:16 AM
 #334

-snip

It's explained here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716720.new#new

And on my sites...
but please do not go on my sites...it makes me money (lol)

Of course I won't as someone explained what's inside of your site.
I visited his site also, I find it puking in my eyes, its full of ads.

That's the reality that the people who are visiting your site are your instrument to generate profit. So, your word that it is impossible to lose.

Is just applicable to you only.

My site is UNIQUE and pays so much people likes to be paid...not more not less.

I agree you have to have enough brain to manage it.
My site is not made to attract people or to have many members.
It is a game you like or you do not.

When people will seen that my U2 system is often better paying that most of faucetsnthey will claim from my site.
And if they prefer earning less otherwhere it does not matter.

Buy all adspaces and let them empty...so my members will earn same and will not be agressed by advertising.
But...believe me internet without advertising would be so boring...

I see that your only argument is suspicion and what other people feel from my site:
An unpleased site does not mean I'm a scammer.

Have a nice day.




Then don't say that it is impossible to lose if you are offering that kind of service with your site because you are misleading people.

And because of that system you got there you, are the one who are most going to get more profit. Also that requires deposit.

Because those advertisers that will fill your slot needs to pay you for renting a slot simple as that.

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December 19, 2016, 12:27:16 PM
 #335

-snip

It's explained here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716720.new#new

And on my sites...
but please do not go on my sites...it makes me money (lol)

Of course I won't as someone explained what's inside of your site.
I visited his site also, I find it puking in my eyes, its full of ads.

That's the reality that the people who are visiting your site are your instrument to generate profit. So, your word that it is impossible to lose.

Is just applicable to you only.

My site is UNIQUE and pays so much people likes to be paid...not more not less.

I agree you have to have enough brain to manage it.
My site is not made to attract people or to have many members.
It is a game you like or you do not.

When people will seen that my U2 system is often better paying that most of faucetsnthey will claim from my site.
And if they prefer earning less otherwhere it does not matter.

Buy all adspaces and let them empty...so my members will earn same and will not be agressed by advertising.
But...believe me internet without advertising would be so boring...

I see that your only argument is suspicion and what other people feel from my site:
An unpleased site does not mean I'm a scammer.

Have a nice day.




Then don't say that it is impossible to lose if you are offering that kind of service with your site because you are misleading people.

And because of that system you got there you, are the one who are most going to get more profit. Also that requires deposit.

Because those advertisers that will fill your slot needs to pay you for renting a slot simple as that.

Sorry,I have not understood you blablabla.
But I can say:it is impossible to lose.
Try to lose...and you will see from yourself that it is impossible.
To earn it is a little harder because a little brain is needed...so you are warned (lol)

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December 19, 2016, 01:53:38 PM
 #336

-snip

It's explained here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716720.new#new

And on my sites...
but please do not go on my sites...it makes me money (lol)

Of course I won't as someone explained what's inside of your site.
I visited his site also, I find it puking in my eyes, its full of ads.

That's the reality that the people who are visiting your site are your instrument to generate profit. So, your word that it is impossible to lose.

Is just applicable to you only.

My site is UNIQUE and pays so much people likes to be paid...not more not less.

I agree you have to have enough brain to manage it.
My site is not made to attract people or to have many members.
It is a game you like or you do not.

When people will seen that my U2 system is often better paying that most of faucetsnthey will claim from my site.
And if they prefer earning less otherwhere it does not matter.

Buy all adspaces and let them empty...so my members will earn same and will not be agressed by advertising.
But...believe me internet without advertising would be so boring...

I see that your only argument is suspicion and what other people feel from my site:
An unpleased site does not mean I'm a scammer.

Have a nice day.




Then don't say that it is impossible to lose if you are offering that kind of service with your site because you are misleading people.

And because of that system you got there you, are the one who are most going to get more profit. Also that requires deposit.

Because those advertisers that will fill your slot needs to pay you for renting a slot simple as that.

Sorry,I have not understood you blablabla.
But I can say:it is impossible to lose.
Try to lose...and you will see from yourself that it is impossible.
To earn it is a little harder because a little brain is needed...so you are warned (lol)

Yes, it is possible to lose with your website even without investiting! Everyone who is trying to understand what are you doing there is LOSING TIME!

Show me thread where you explain how is working your system!?
I think i have seen one with a lot of complains..

Your system is just good example to stay away.

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December 19, 2016, 02:05:01 PM
 #337

-snip

It's explained here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716720.new#new

And on my sites...
but please do not go on my sites...it makes me money (lol)

Of course I won't as someone explained what's inside of your site.
I visited his site also, I find it puking in my eyes, its full of ads.

That's the reality that the people who are visiting your site are your instrument to generate profit. So, your word that it is impossible to lose.

Is just applicable to you only.

My site is UNIQUE and pays so much people likes to be paid...not more not less.

I agree you have to have enough brain to manage it.
My site is not made to attract people or to have many members.
It is a game you like or you do not.

When people will seen that my U2 system is often better paying that most of faucetsnthey will claim from my site.
And if they prefer earning less otherwhere it does not matter.

Buy all adspaces and let them empty...so my members will earn same and will not be agressed by advertising.
But...believe me internet without advertising would be so boring...

I see that your only argument is suspicion and what other people feel from my site:
An unpleased site does not mean I'm a scammer.

Have a nice day.




Then don't say that it is impossible to lose if you are offering that kind of service with your site because you are misleading people.

And because of that system you got there you, are the one who are most going to get more profit. Also that requires deposit.

Because those advertisers that will fill your slot needs to pay you for renting a slot simple as that.

Sorry,I have not understood you blablabla.
But I can say:it is impossible to lose.
Try to lose...and you will see from yourself that it is impossible.
To earn it is a little harder because a little brain is needed...so you are warned (lol)

Yes, it is possible to lose with your website even without investiting! Everyone who is trying to understand what are you doing there is LOSING TIME!

Show me thread where you explain how is working your system!?
I think i have seen one with a lot of complains..

Your system is just good example to stay away.

Time is always lost:
If you spend 1 minute here you have lost 1 minute.
If you spend 1 minute on my site you have lost 1 minute.

Have one to show a thread explaining how it works?
I offer satoshi to my members...i'm not in obligation to explain here  how my system works.
He works and basta (lol)
But I have promised to answer specific question about my system...
I can not copy past here each time amm my over 50 pages from the site.

I'm not here to explain...I'm here to rectify all wrong things wrote here.
I'm not here to attract people...(lol)



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December 19, 2016, 02:13:01 PM
 #338

Time is always lost:
If you spend 1 minute here you have lost 1 minute.
If you spend 1 minute on my site you have lost 1 minute.

Have one to show a thread explaining how it works?
I offer satoshi to my members...i'm not in obligation to explain here  how my system works.
He works and basta (lol)
But I have promised to answer specific question about my system...
I can not copy past here each time amm my over 50 pages from the site.

I'm not here to explain...I'm here to rectify all wrong things wrote here.
I'm not here to attract people...(lol)

It is not place to disscuss or explain how work your system. Please open thread about that - like all services do - and let's disscuss that there.
It will be for you a lot easier to post link, than explaining every time.



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December 19, 2016, 02:39:07 PM
 #339

Time is always lost:
If you spend 1 minute here you have lost 1 minute.
If you spend 1 minute on my site you have lost 1 minute.

Have one to show a thread explaining how it works?
I offer satoshi to my members...i'm not in obligation to explain here  how my system works.
He works and basta (lol)
But I have promised to answer specific question about my system...
I can not copy past here each time amm my over 50 pages from the site.

I'm not here to explain...I'm here to rectify all wrong things wrote here.
I'm not here to attract people...(lol)

It is not place to disscuss or explain how work your system. Please open thread about that - like all services do - and let's disscuss that there.
It will be for you a lot easier to post link, than explaining every time.




Two threads are open...but I have to rectify here if it is to rectify here.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1211196.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716720.new#new

I can not answer there if i'm attacked here...

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December 19, 2016, 09:05:18 PM
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What I do is very simple, I listen to my guts after reading the signals for a site that claims registration is free then tell me part of the completion process is filling my credit card details, then that is scam. Another way to go is just a simple Google search about the site and my answers are provided even if its only one negative comment out of 50, I am definitely not putting my money there.
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