Transactions without fees being delayed for ages

[Kumala]

Since about 2 days transactions without fees are getting delayed, sometime up to several hours. This hasn't happened before. Anyone know what's going on?  Any new big miner who requires fees or too many transactions on the network?

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[mpfrank]

Since about 2 days transactions without fees are getting delayed, sometime up to several hours. This hasn't happened before. Anyone know what's going on?  Any new big miner who requires fees or too many transactions on the network?

I have had problems with my last 3 transactions getting confirmed even with 0.001 fees.  It's possible that some big miners have started rejecting transactions with small fees, so those transactions are no longer getting incorporated into blocks.

[mpfrank]

Since about 2 days transactions without fees are getting delayed, sometime up to several hours. This hasn't happened before. Anyone know what's going on?  Any new big miner who requires fees or too many transactions on the network?

Also the rate of transactions seems rather high right now (judging from number of bubbles at http://www.listentobitcoin.com/, so it's possible there's some kind of network congestion...  My transactions seem not to be propagating to very many nodes.

[btcLeger]

The reason seems to be the thounds of satoshidice transactions each day. Most of them are small amounts and require a fee. Transactions with fees are often preferred by those who find a new block to be included in the blockchain so the transactions without fees have to wait... Seems to be a kind of a bottleneck of bitcoin...

[kokojie]

Simple solution, pay the transaction fee, and stop expecting a free ride.

[Trader Steve]

Is there an easy way to reverse an uncomfirmed transaction and resubmit it for a fee?

[theowalpott]

I've got a 0 fee 0/confirmation transaction stuck atm.. didn't even mean to send it for zero fee, but it tried to charge me 0.02 to send about 1BTC which I thought was ridiculous so I went to manually set it lower and accidently sent for zero. I tried importing the key to a new wallet and putting a small tx fee to fix it, but it's still stuck

My problem is that it's an address with a lot of small inputs, so it's about a 2kb transaction to send it which is what caused the 0.02 fee in the first place. Really fucking stupid.. I'm not paying a 2% fee to send something, if I wanted to do that, I'd use paypal.

[DrG]

I've got a 0 fee 0/confirmation transaction stuck atm.. didn't even mean to send it for zero fee, but it tried to charge me 0.02 to send about 1BTC which I thought was ridiculous so I went to manually set it lower and accidently sent for zero. I tried importing the key to a new wallet and putting a small tx fee to fix it, but it's still stuck

My problem is that it's an address with a lot of small inputs, so it's about a 2kb transaction to send it which is what caused the 0.02 fee in the first place. Really fucking stupid.. I'm not paying a 2% fee to send something, if I wanted to do that, I'd use paypal.

Well it comes down to sustaining an economy.  Of course most miners currently care about the subsidy but the future bitcoin growth will only occur through fees.m.

If you want to avoid your problem, make 2 wallets.  Use an online wallet to collect the little crap (so there's little risk if you lose it) and keep your big transactions on your own system.

[Stn]

Here is the result of my research I did in the similar topic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=165688.msg1737612

- Yesterday it was abnormal activity in the network and each broadcasting took much longer then usually. Some transactions even were rejected (had to be re-submitted).

- Free transaction has more chances to fail, but those with fee may fail too.

- "Official" wallet broadcasts asynchronously (i.e. accepts your transaction any way and then handles it quietly). If from the first attempt it didn't broadcast then transaction will sit there for hell long before re-attempt. God sake why so?

- There is no straight ahead option to remove or push failed transactions. Though seems "pywallet" allows to pull out those transaction out of the wallet and therefore submit again.

- "-rescan" argument helped to push all those transactions.

- Synchronous wallet (Electrum in my case) is better in this way. It broadcasts right in front of your eyes, reports failure and does not put transaction into the queue. You can just re-submit.

[theowalpott]

I've got a 0 fee 0/confirmation transaction stuck atm.. didn't even mean to send it for zero fee, but it tried to charge me 0.02 to send about 1BTC which I thought was ridiculous so I went to manually set it lower and accidently sent for zero. I tried importing the key to a new wallet and putting a small tx fee to fix it, but it's still stuck

My problem is that it's an address with a lot of small inputs, so it's about a 2kb transaction to send it which is what caused the 0.02 fee in the first place. Really fucking stupid.. I'm not paying a 2% fee to send something, if I wanted to do that, I'd use paypal.

Well it comes down to sustaining an economy.  Of course most miners currently care about the subsidy but the future bitcoin growth will only occur through fees.m.

If you want to avoid your problem, make 2 wallets.  Use an online wallet to collect the little crap (so there's little risk if you lose it) and keep your big transactions on your own system.

I understand why fees are there, but if you watch the blockchain, there are sometimes blocks going through with only 1 or 2 transactions, or far under the blocksize limit - if a miner's block isn't even close to full then why should people pay a fee?

Like you say, currently it's all about the 25btc reward, and it'll continue to be about that reward until it's dropped into single digits tbh.