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October 27, 2016, 07:40:55 PM
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All atheists are realists. They only believe actual facts, and the believers fly in the clouds and believe in fairy tales. No one has seen God then it is not.

Most atheists believe in the Big Bang. Since the Big Bang is not known to have existed, atheists don't know that they ahve only believed things that are factual.

Further, since God has been proven to exist through science fact, atheists don't believe the most important fact.

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"since God has been proven to exist through science fact" lol wat

You might have to think deeply for a moment, but as I have posted many times, cause and effect rule. Newton's 3rd Law upholds cause and effect. C&E is evident in everything. In fact, the greater the scientist, the more he is into examining cause and effect. There is nothing but theory that attempts to override C&E.

This means that even the things that we think have been caused by vast numbers of electrons bumping into each other in our brains and nervous systems, because they were caused to move that way by something, or many things, that caused them to do so. Our intelligence and active thinking are things that have been caused.

What caused all these C&E actions that make us what we are? Nobody knows. After all, the activities of all the materials and energies in the universe are C&E made to be what they are. Nothing that we know of at all happens by pure random activity. And we have found nothing that could start C&E. Big Bang is guesswork.

The universe system is extremely complex, via C&E. Yet we don't see anything that can make such complexity. We don't really see anything that is more complex being made by something less complex without greater loss in some other way to the less complex system. This is called universal entropy.

The fact of universal entropy shows that there was a beginning. After all, if the universe had always been, entropy would have completely disbursed all material and energy into a vast quagmire of sameness throught... long ago.

Because C&E exists throughout the universe, the first cause must have been very great. The fact that there is intelligence in the way all things work, shows that there was far greater intelligence in the Great First Cause.

You can't get away from it. C&E is all around us and permeates everything. You can talk like it doesn't exist much, but it is the foundation of everything. C&E is complex beyond understanding, but the complexity is breaking down in entropy.

The point is that it all shows us God. I'm not saying the God of the Bible. I am saying the God Who started everything. He is alive and powerful and intelligent, all beyond understanding.

Think about it. You might think that there is some kind of proof to the opposite, but whatever that so-call proof might be, it is infinitely less evident than cause and effect.

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October 27, 2016, 10:10:58 PM
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Reality truth? NOT.

37.05 Spinning ball earth propaganda. Please introduce this thread to Ray Comfort guy and make him learn a lesson:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1009045.260

You can not destroy atheism if you don't destroy false heliocentrism first, which is the foundation of all other lies such as big bang, evolution, atheism and latest aliens mating humans agenda.

And flat earth does exactly that. Literally obliterates and exposes fakery of heliocentrism.

Welcome back to the Dark Ages, courtesy of exemplaar!



Note: I know that you're a stupid troll but I'm having fun laughing at you.

Round and flat are the same from a one-dimensional view. From a 3-dimensional view flat doesn't make sense.
Obviously he is trolling, nobody believes in flat earth anymore.  Cheesy


First: All matter is finite. There is no infinite matter.
Second: Einstein was a masonic puppet, extending false heliocentric model. He was debunked by Nikola Tesla, the true scientist.
Third: You two even do not know what flat earth is.

Heliocentrism is pure masonic evil lie. Earth is a plane, an environment prepared for living, not a spinning planet through an imaginary universe.
Sun and moon as electric lights rotate above plane earth. Stars are located within dome-firmament which resides above you - knuckleheads. Grin






 
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October 28, 2016, 12:09:38 AM
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Reality truth? NOT.

37.05 Spinning ball earth propaganda. Please introduce this thread to Ray Comfort guy and make him learn a lesson:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1009045.260

You can not destroy atheism if you don't destroy false heliocentrism first, which is the foundation of all other lies such as big bang, evolution, atheism and latest aliens mating humans agenda.

And flat earth does exactly that. Literally obliterates and exposes fakery of heliocentrism.

Welcome back to the Dark Ages, courtesy of exemplaar! https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FVeCFyoU.gif&t=570&c=Fu2N7riwrScB9Q https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FVeCFyoU.gif&t=570&c=Fu2N7riwrScB9Q https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FVeCFyoU.gif&t=570&c=Fu2N7riwrScB9Q

http://s21.postimg.org/87jtnrdiv/Albert_Einstein_Quotes_34.jpg

Note: I know that you're a stupid troll but I'm having fun laughing at you.

Round and flat are the same from a one-dimensional view. From a 3-dimensional view flat doesn't make sense.
Obviously he is trolling, nobody believes in flat earth anymore.  Cheesy


First: All matter is finite. There is no infinite matter.
Second: Einstein was a masonic puppet, extending false heliocentric model. He was debunked by Nikola Tesla, the true scientist.
Third: You two even do not know what flat earth is.

Heliocentrism is pure masonic evil lie. Earth is a plane, an environment prepared for living, not a spinning planet through an imaginary universe.
Sun and moon as electric lights rotate above plane earth. Stars are located within dome-firmament which resides above you - knuckleheads. Grin

http://whotfetw.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Flat-Earth-Truth-Memes-14.jpg
 

Flat earth is Roman Church, Dark Ages, control-freak stupidity.

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October 28, 2016, 01:50:50 AM
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Third: You two even do not know what flat earth is.

It would be better if you study more mathematics before making silly statements like this  Kiss

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Heliocentrism is pure masonic evil lie. Earth is a plane, an environment prepared for living, not a spinning planet through an imaginary universe.
Sun and moon as electric lights rotate above plane earth. Stars are located within dome-firmament which resides above you - knuckleheads. Grin
Yes, you are right. Evidence video of flat earth here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

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True Christianity is in the business of saving people for everlasting life in Heaven. Just because some religions mislead people doesn't detract from the real reason for true Christianity.

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all religious people will say the same thing


muslims also speak  
True Islam is in the business of saving people for everlasting life in Heaven. Just because some religions mislead people doesn't detract from the real reason for true Islam.



Jewry also speak
True Judaism is in the business of saving people for everlasting life in Heaven. Just because some religions mislead people doesn't detract from the real reason for true Judaism.


threerussians(troerussiyas) also speak
True threerussian(troerussiya) is in the business of saving people for everlasting life in Heaven. Just because some religions mislead people doesn't detract from the real reason for true threerussian(troerussiya).

By the way here is a sect threerussian(troerussiya)
if someone did not know,
founded the sect Christian psychologist Alexander Shevtsov
and he's all beat up on video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmF_eCwV2nQ
woman tells about the problems in the family.
psychologist solves problems
http://i.imgur.com/EoXBuXK.gif
raising a child in front of parents


for adherents Shevtsova, he also God

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October 28, 2016, 11:31:34 AM
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True Christianity is in the business of saving people for everlasting life in Heaven. Just because some religions mislead people doesn't detract from the real reason for true Christianity.

Grin

all religious people will say the same thing


muslims also speak  
True Islam is in the business of saving people for everlasting life in Heaven. Just because some religions mislead people doesn't detract from the real reason for true Islam.



Jewry also speak
True Judaism is in the business of saving people for everlasting life in Heaven. Just because some religions mislead people doesn't detract from the real reason for true Judaism.


threerussians(troerussiyas) also speak
True threerussian(troerussiya) is in the business of saving people for everlasting life in Heaven. Just because some religions mislead people doesn't detract from the real reason for true threerussian(troerussiya).

By the way here is a sect threerussian(troerussiya)
if someone did not know,
founded the sect Christian psychologist Alexander Shevtsov
and he's all beat up on video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmF_eCwV2nQ
woman tells about the problems in the family.
psychologist solves problems
http://i.imgur.com/EoXBuXK.gif
raising a child in front of parents
http://i.imgur.com/O85c8xd.gif

for adherents Shevtsova, he also God


Looks like you have your work cut out for you. You better get to work and find out which religion is correct. You wouldn't want to burn in Hell because you selected the wrong religion, would you?

People go to school for, say, 8 years so they can get a better job that they will work at for 30 to 40 years. If Hell is eternal, you better go back to school to learn how to avoid it or how to handle it.

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October 28, 2016, 11:34:30 AM
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I am atheist and I have a question, why God did not show him/herself for more than 2000 years since his son birth? I see the sun and it's a proof that it's exist, why should I believe in god then?
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October 28, 2016, 11:42:33 AM
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I am atheist and I have a question, why God did not show him/herself for more than 2000 years since his son birth? I see the sun and it's a proof that it's exist, why should I believe in god then?

When a jet airplane flies into a cloud, you can't see the jet in the cloud. Maybe it isn't there?

Then you look at the long vapor trail from the exhaust of the jet. So, there must have been a jet plane.

You see the earth around you, and the stars in the sky. They are God's vapor trail. They show that He exists.

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October 28, 2016, 11:48:56 AM
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When a jet airplane flies into a cloud, you can't see the jet in the cloud. Maybe it isn't there?

Then you look at the long vapor trail from the exhaust of the jet. So, there must have been a jet plane.

You see the earth around you, and the stars in the sky. They are God's vapor trail. They show that He exists.

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When a jet airplane flies into a cloud, you can't see the jet in the cloud. Maybe it isn't there?

Then you look at the long vapor trail from the exhaust of the jet. So, there must have been a jet plane.

You see the earth around you, and the stars in the sky. They are THE MAGIC PIXIE'S vapor trail. They show that He exists.


You see the problem, my statement is just as valid as yours, whereas your link between jets and vapor trails are acutally backed by hard evidence and can be observed and replicated.
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October 28, 2016, 12:39:37 PM
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Looks like you have your work cut out for you. You better get to work and find out which religion is correct. You wouldn't want to burn in Hell because you selected the wrong religion, would you?

People go to school for, say, 8 years so they can get a better job that they will work at for 30 to 40 years. If Hell is eternal, you better go back to school to learn how to avoid it or how to handle it.


I do not believe in hell and god

footage of destruction of churches in the USSR
http://i.imgur.com/CfeySzS.gif
where was your god?
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October 28, 2016, 03:26:53 PM
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Looks like you have your work cut out for you. You better get to work and find out which religion is correct. You wouldn't want to burn in Hell because you selected the wrong religion, would you?

People go to school for, say, 8 years so they can get a better job that they will work at for 30 to 40 years. If Hell is eternal, you better go back to school to learn how to avoid it or how to handle it.


I do not believe in hell and god

footage of destruction of churches in the USSR
http://i.imgur.com/CfeySzS.gif
where was your god?

The child that runs out into the street after the ball doesn't believe the car is coming. This doesn't stop it from hitting him. Why won't you believe in God, since science and nature show that He exists? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.msg16703237#msg16703237

This is simply the take-over of one religion by another. God was then, and is now, taking His people to their home in Heaven, while holding those who are against Him in chains of darkness until the day of judgment.

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October 28, 2016, 03:40:28 PM
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The child that runs out into the street after the ball doesn't believe the car is coming. This doesn't stop it from hitting him.

When was the last time your God or any other provided some solid evidence of their existence.  The child running out in the street will bear evidence the car existed.

It seems your god doesnt have an issue with punishing people for all eternity if they sin after they die but he's not so quick to step in and do fuck all for anyone while they are still breathing.
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October 28, 2016, 03:49:20 PM
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The child that runs out into the street after the ball doesn't believe the car is coming. This doesn't stop it from hitting him.

When was the last time your God or any other provided some solid evidence of their existence.  The child running out in the street will bear evidence the car existed.

It seems your god doesnt have an issue with punishing people for all eternity if they sin after they die but he's not so quick to step in and do fuck all for anyone while they are still breathing.

Okay. Read my lips. Nature and the universe are the tons of evidence that God exists. And they are just the outside evidence. The Bible and the prophecies therein are far greater evidence.

God doesn't punish people for all eternity except that they ask for it. For example. You are asking for it when you speak against God. God is way greater than this universe and everything in it. Why should He put up with your rebellion and mocking?

God DOES put up with rebellion and mocking. Out of love for people, He gives them the chance to turn to His Son Jesus and be saved. So, if you are not saved, it's because you won't turn. Your own fault.

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October 28, 2016, 04:00:23 PM
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A child steals a pack of sweats from a shop and does not repent.

Does this child then burn for all eternity in hell if it dies later that day in a road accident?
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October 28, 2016, 05:03:48 PM
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God DOES put up with rebellion and mocking. Out of love for people, He gives them the chance to turn to His Son Jesus and be saved. So, if you are not saved, it's because you won't turn. Your own fault.

It seems pretty clear that your god is a mercyless dictator, isn't it? Do what he wants the way he wants or go to hell and suffer horrible pains for the eternity... aaawww what a lovely god he is... oh, I was forgetting one crucial detail: there is no god! Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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A child steals a pack of sweats from a shop and does not repent.

Does this child then burn for all eternity in hell if it dies later that day in a road accident?

Depends what God you are talking about.
Let's take the Christian mythology god as an example, the bible one, as this is one of the more obvious false ones.

Christian mythology states people are born sinners, then they need Jesus for salivation or they burn in hell for eternity.
A person could spend a lifetime raping, scamming, murdering, but at the end, if they asked Jesus for salivation they will get it and float off to heaven in paradise forever.
On the other side of the coin, another person could spend a lifetime dedicated to good charitable works, yet not ask Jesus for forgiveness. Sadly this good, honest, true person would burn forever in a lake of fire.

Then you are told the bible god is loving and just.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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God DOES put up with rebellion and mocking. Out of love for people, He gives them the chance to turn to His Son Jesus and be saved. So, if you are not saved, it's because you won't turn. Your own fault.

It seems pretty clear that your god is a mercyless dictator, isn't it? Do what he wants the way he wants or go to hell and suffer horrible pains for the eternity... aaawww what a lovely god he is... oh, I was forgetting one crucial detail: there is no god! Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

No, that's me you are talking about. Not God. Consider.

If you painted a beautiful picture and the canvas tore right down the middle, what would you do? If you tried to mend it, it would never be the same. You would probably throw it out.

Now, what if the canvas was alive, and tore itself on purpose? And what if it tore itself after you had given it explicit instructions not to tear itself. Wouldn't you be angry with your painting?

God mercifully lets you live and tries to convert you to salvation, even though you are like that canvas, willfully tearing yourself. What can God do with you when you have set yourself against Him like this? Finally He has to give you the thing you are asking for, and let you go.

Rather, why won't you convert and be on God's side, so He can save you?

Btw, science proves and nature shows that God exists.    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.msg16703237#msg16703237

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Btw, science proves and nature shows that God exists.

I call bollocks, and im sure most scientists would agree.

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The definition of God. In order to use science as a way to prove or disprove God's existence, there ought to be a clear definition that all religions can agree on. And i do not find such a criteria.


If God wants us to behave, all he has to do is take 5 minutes out of his infinite lifespan and busy schedule.  Magic his ass down here, perform a miracle such as instantly vaporizing every ISIS supporter on the planet then return back to fluffy cloud land in the sky and everyone would change their ways and follow him blindly.

Will never happen though as its just a fairy tale.
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I call bollocks, and im sure most scientists would agree.

You called correctly. Science cannot prove or disprove God, since it is isn't designed to do that.
The nonsense this clown is talking about is call pseudoscience because it doesn't adhere to the scientific method.
Since he knows it's pseudoscience and pretends it's not, his small goal is to deceive you into tricking you into his bigger goal of you worshipping his false bespoke god.



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Btw, science proves and nature shows that God exists.

I call bollocks, and im sure most scientists would agree.

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The definition of God. In order to use science as a way to prove or disprove God's existence, there ought to be a clear definition that all religions can agree on. And i do not find such a criteria.


If God wants us to behave, all he has to do is take 5 minutes out of his infinite lifespan and busy schedule.  Magic his ass down here, perform a miracle such as instantly vaporizing every ISIS supporter on the planet then return back to fluffy cloud land in the sky and everyone would change their ways and follow him blindly.

Will never happen though as its just a fairy tale.

If God did it your way, you still wouldn't believe. Look at all the science that shows globe earth. Yet we have stupid flat earthers who just won't accept no matter what. You aren't doing what you do because you want or would accept proof. You are simply doing what you want to do, period.

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