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October 31, 2016, 07:58:49 PM
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Trust what that it will function as promised or your profitz ?

Altcoins have no value and neither does Bitcoin to most.
The only reason they appear to is because of the direct link to FIAT.
Take away the link and no one wants them.

Case in point.. ANY coin delisted or never added to an exchange.
They are all worthless.. why ?
Because they can not be linked to BTC which is directly linked to cashing out to FIAT.

The illusion your shitcoins have value is a facade.
Your "Security" is the risk you take trading scam coin for profit.
The only thing you are all worried about is your profits.. not that your currency transfer won't go through etc.

The Altcoin Charade.

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October 31, 2016, 09:33:58 PM
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Actually no item has any worth except what the receiver of said item deems it, including fiat.

Example.
In the US the following bill is worthless to me , and I would prefer an altcoin on an exchange to it, because for me the altcoin would be easier to exchange.


However a Canadian would feel differently.  Smiley


But in some places the Fiat is not worth the paper it is printed on.


Every form of money always will be Perceived ValueWink

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November 01, 2016, 01:24:40 AM
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The main issue with altcoins and cryptocurrencies in general is TRUST, so how to make sense of all these altcoins popping of every day? The fact that anyone can create a new currency? Isn't this the whole problem? Thank you for your expert advice
Yes, too many the big project are get a lot of funds caused by making coin and more people are interested in creating a new one. that's like a disease for the crypto world in this time, and we don't know what the purpose for creating such coin today, believe me but a lot of the writer will coming for writing his scenario.

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November 01, 2016, 01:44:01 AM
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Anyone can make altcoin but only few ICO project is unique.You should avoid these kind of ico where the following things you will see..

1.Stay out when you see a newbie open ico thread without personal details.(Sometimes the personal details totally fake you should investigate)

2.ICO Without escrow, Don't join.

3.Read the whitepaper.

Etc you should follow.better buy some coins from phoenix exchange.


What phoniex exchange? You mean poloniex? Anyway, most ICOs are scams, and don't get fooled with a coin's "uniqueness", sometimes that uniqueness is just a simple gimmick that offers nothing of actual value. Very easy to trick people into thinking it's the next big thing. Remember: everyone wants your BTC.
Oh my dude, you are sooo gonna get burned if you're truly asking this question.  Every new altcoin out there is a scam, bar none.  I would advise just sticking your fiat in bitcoin and bitcoin ONLY.  Stay far away from shitcoins unless you want to lose your money.  There is absolutely no use for them.  No one uses them as a currency and very few people hold them as a store of value.  They are pump and dump schemes, and that's all.

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November 01, 2016, 02:14:57 AM
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Anyone can make altcoin but only few ICO project is unique.You should avoid these kind of ico where the following things you will see..

1.Stay out when you see a newbie open ico thread without personal details.(Sometimes the personal details totally fake you should investigate)

2.ICO Without escrow, Don't join.

3.Read the whitepaper.


Good Point

Well that very clearly.

To be smart Choose which you follow the ICOs
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November 01, 2016, 05:53:15 AM
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Actually no item has any worth except what the receiver of said item deems it, including fiat.

Example.
In the US the following bill is worthless to me , and I would prefer an altcoin on an exchange to it, because for me the altcoin would be easier to exchange.

 [ ]
However a Canadian would feel differently.  Smiley
 [ ]

But in some places the Fiat is not worth the paper it is printed on.

Every form of money always will be Perceived ValueWink

 Cool


Very true.  Every monetary asset (that is, a collectible that has no other function than to be acquired against value, to be left later against value) is an infinitely recursive belief system: you accept it (against value you hand over) because you believe that Joe will accept it from you (you obtaining value from Joe) ; and you believe that, because you believe that Joe will believe that Jack will accept it, who believes it because Mary will accept it etc...

So all value a monetary asset has, is pure belief, because by definition, the monetary asset itself has no or almost no intrinsic value (that is, without it being able to be exchanged against something else, you cannot obtain much satisfaction from it: you cannot eat it, you cannot fuck it, you cannot enjoy it, you cannot use it to produce goods or services: you can ONLY trade it for something else).  Not all collectibles are totally devoid of intrinsic value: gold is shiny and you can make jewels of it, and it has some technological use ; paintings can be nice to decorate your house with, ...

But fiat (apart from burning in the stove as a fuel) is almost intrinsically worthless, and crypto (apart from serving as an immutable ledger) is also almost intrinsically worthless.   Which doesn't mean that it cannot have high monetary (belief) value.

The monetary belief value exists, because the function of *store of value* (in the short term: currency, in the long term: savings) is economically very useful.  There is globally (and locally) a certain demand for store of value, which can be variable according to circumstances.  People want to store a certain amount of value for a certain period at a given time and location. The actual market value a monetary asset will obtain, will be given by how much will be its market share in this market of demand for store of value.  If you want to store the value of a car for say, 6 months, you have several options to do so: you can use fiat, stock, paintings, bitcoin, altcoins, gold, ....
The different monetary assets will have market prices according to how much value is to be stored, and what share of that stored value has been elected to be in said monetary asset.

Unfortunately, monetary assets also attract another kind of value, which is what I call 'greater fool theory'.  The idea there is not to "put aside value for later" (the economic demand for store of value between two trading acts), but rather to hope for the increase in market value of a given store of value.  That's speculation.  Speculation becomes problematic if it becomes the main demand for a monetary asset, and hence if it determines the price of that asset, instead of "surfing on the legit demand for it economically wise".  If the price of a monetary asset is principally determined by expectations of higher price, then we are in the typical black tulip style of speculative bubble.  My idea is that bitcoin and most altcoins are mainly suffering from that.   
 
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November 01, 2016, 06:33:49 AM
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The main issue with altcoins and cryptocurrencies in general is TRUST, so how to make sense of all these altcoins popping of every day? The fact that anyone can create a new currency? Isn't this the whole problem? Thank you for your expert advice

this new altcoin, very dicult can choose is trusted altcoin and trusted dev
in investment altcoin still speculation, can get good coin and good dev , so can get much profit and return
but several time is selling ico can ge scamer, example decloud
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November 01, 2016, 07:53:25 AM
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New coin and alt coin really hard to get trust and i kind of confused with so many alt coin being created, i dont know which one should i used and which one i should invest and alt coin reputation become worse when a lot of coin developer try to scam, so it need more time for alt coin to be trusted
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November 01, 2016, 08:16:57 AM
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The main issue with altcoins and cryptocurrencies in general is TRUST, so how to make sense of all these altcoins popping of every day? The fact that anyone can create a new currency? Isn't this the whole problem? Thank you for your expert advice
yeah , about 10 new altcoin comes in the bitcoin world per year .
but abou 4-5 altcoin's admin ran away and the price reach to about 0 satoshi ( which was shocking for me when see ) .
but some of altcoins are most impactful and useful for profit .
like blry , dash , ether ,edr etc are best and trusted and also safe to use .
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